Too Many Nurse Practitioners?

What do future employment prospects hold for NPs ? There are mixed views on whether we will experience a surplus or a shortage of NPs by 2025. Nurses General Nursing Article

The year is 2043 and Maria waits patiently in the receiving pod for her primary care provider. The cool blue light is on, indicating scanners are continuously monitoring her vital functions. Her measurements display on the virtual wall to her right. Maria notes that her blood pressure is reading a bit high at 150/85.

Maria needs to see an orthopedic surgeon for her worsening hip problem but national healthcare resource utilization guidelines issued back in 2030 as part of the Healthcare Reform Act prohibits patients from self-referring to specialists; only Nurse Practitioners (NPs) can authorize consults to medical specialists. In 2043, there are no primary care physicians; NPs provide all of the nation's primary care and medical schools only graduate specialists, such as surgeons and neurologists.

Evelyn, Maria's NP, enters the pod with a shy appearing young man deferentially trailing behind, "Maria, this is Dr. David. He's in the final year of his medical residency. I'm supervising his clinical rotation. Would you be OK with him joining us?"

"Sure", said Maria. She's used to medical residents in the office. Evelyn is a well-renowned clinician and medical residents line up to have her as a preceptor.

"Maria, don't worry. I'm sending you for a multiplex InstaTran full body scan. It'll be wirelessly transmitted so I can view it right away and we can go from there. David, can you please make sure the scan is ordered, notify my colleague, Dr. Narang, and let's schedule her for a re-check on her blood pressure?"


What is the employment future of primary care NPs? Will they be in demand, supplying the bulk of primary care services, as the vignette suggests?

Nursing schools, graduating increasing numbers of NPs every year, with thousands more in the pipeline, seem to think so. Is this an indicator of future need or are schools riding the "Now" train? Can the job market sustain the rapid growth?

Forecasting the supply and demand of healthcare practitioners is difficult. One thing we do know is that NPs in primary care have a projected growth rate higher than that of other registered nurses with graduate-level degrees such as certified registered nurse anesthetists and certified nurse midwives .

It's generally believed that there is a shortage of NPs and that the shortage will continue. But a recent report by the U.S. Department of Human and Health Services (DHHS) Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) says otherwise. HRSA predicts an oversupply of NPs.

By the year 2025, there will be an estimated 110,540 full-time equivalent (FTE) primary care NPs. This is close to twice the number of FTE primary care NPs in 2013 and almost double the projected 2025 demand.

Even though there are geographic disparities in the distribution of primary care NPs, every state, plus the District of Columbia, is predicted to have an oversupply. No state is predicted to have a shortage of NPs by 2025.

Florida alone is estimated to have 7,640 FTE primary care NPs by 2025- but the projected demand is for 3,120. Similarly, Tennessee is estimated to have 3,100 NPs- with a projected demand of only1,400.

How did HRSA arrive at the numbers? HRSA used a Health Workforce Simulation Model (HWSM) to calculate state level and national projections.

Future supply and demand was estimated by taking into consideration:

  • Population growth
  • Aging baby boomers
  • Expanded health coverage
  • Changes in health care reimbursement
  • Geographic location
  • Workforce participation
  • Retirement

HRSA also looked at the projected supply and demand for primary care physicians and Physician Assistants (PAs). While the supply of NPs and PAs is predicted to outpace the demand, the supply of primary care physicians will grow more slowly than the demand, with an overall national shortage that masks regional and state-level variations.

With a focus on wellness and disease prevention, it stands to reason that NPs are in a key position to ease the burden of the physician shortages and provide access to effective primary health care. Nurses are being recognized as key members of healthcare.

Perhaps the projected oversupply will turn into a much-needed opportunity for NPs to assume more primary care roles. It would be good for NPs and good for the health of our nation.

Resources

NP Fact Sheet. (2016). American Association of Nurse Practitioners. Accessed April 2017 from AANP - NP Fact Sheet

Bodenheimer, T., & Bauer, L. (2016). Rethinking the Primary Care Workforce-An Expanded Role for Nurses. New England Journal of Medicine, 375(11), 1015-1017.

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Health Resources and Services Administration, National Center for Health Workforce Analysis. 2016. State-Level Projections of Supply and Demand for Primary Care Practitioners: 2013-2025. Rockville, Maryland.

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In my personal experience, "bedside nursing" can be valuable for future NPs only if it implies what it should - assessments, certain degree of autonomy, critical thinking and coordination of care. The problem is, in so many places nurses are so busy with computer charting and "customer service" related tasks and so limited in their decisions due to policies/schmolicies regulating their every breath, that they virtually have no time to practice what they should do as bedside nurses. If nurses are prohibited from doing blood sugar checks without Holy Written Order, are disciplined for following every schmolicy to the letter whether it is clinically appropriate or not and have to respond on every silly request within 30 seconds of call light going on, they just do not have time to do full head-to-toe on every of 6 or 7 patients they care for on med/surg floor, although they are theoreticaly responsible for doing so.

One can do bedside for 10 years before desiding to go to NP school, but what the nurse actually did for those 10 years makes a lot of difference. If those 10 years were spent mastering a fine art of placing patients on bedpans, writing notes about Mrs. M. wanting her bagel toasted and call light easily accessible as per policy, holding hands, chatting about life, fluffing pillows and micromanaging every new hire - and not reading a single good textbook, much less learning new skills and changing areas every 3 to 5 years, - this seasoned nurse will not succeed despite of all her experience. She will become one of those pitiful, forever lost creatures who never forget to order CBC/diff q24h for 5 days and metodically sign all restrain papers as per policy, but otherwise have no idea what is going on with any of their patients.

Oh, the feeling of finding one of them doubling b-blocker dose for patient with HR of 120, no Foley and Levophed already flowing in and titrating up pretty quickly :angrybird1:

Makes sense. Definitely agreed that bedside nursing done the way it should be (given the time and resources to be able to do it the way it should be) can contribute to future preparation as an NP.

While I agree that experience as a bedside RN is not the same as or a substitute for clinical training for an NP, is there not value in RN experience beyond mere "carrying out orders" (I know I don't just carry out orders in my job)?

In my opinion, the value of my experience as a critical care nurse is invaluable in NP school (or PA school should I have chosen to pursue that). Don't mistake my statement. Physical assessment, familiarity with medications and associated pharmacokinetics/dynamics, becoming comfortable with patient interaction and working as part of the healthcare team, etc. All of these things I've gained as a RN will carry over into being a NP. However, I don't ever count my RN experience as being a replacement for NP training. No matter how you slice it 600-800 hours of clinical in NP programs is not enough. I'll have 8 years of acute care (ICU and IR) experience as a RN when I graduate but that only counts as preparation for entry into NP school. Not as a substitution for advanced training. I'll be completing as many hours as I can in school. Read through this forum and you'll see post after post of new grad NPs who feel like they don't know what they're doing when they graduate. I don't plan on being that person. I already have a few preceptors lined up and I've agreed with them that I will follow their schedule to the minute.

In my personal experience, "bedside nursing" can be valuable for future NPs only if it implies what it should - assessments, certain degree of autonomy, critical thinking and coordination of care. The problem is, in so many places nurses are so busy with computer charting and "customer service" related tasks and so limited in their decisions due to policies/schmolicies regulating their every breath, that they virtually have no time to practice what they should do as bedside nurses. If nurses are prohibited from doing blood sugar checks without Holy Written Order, are disciplined for following every schmolicy to the letter whether it is clinically appropriate or not and have to respond on every silly request within 30 seconds of call light going on, they just do not have time to do full head-to-toe on every of 6 or 7 patients they care for on med/surg floor, although they are theoreticaly responsible for doing so.

One can do bedside for 10 years before desiding to go to NP school, but what the nurse actually did for those 10 years makes a lot of difference. If those 10 years were spent mastering a fine art of placing patients on bedpans, writing notes about Mrs. M. wanting her bagel toasted and call light easily accessible as per policy, holding hands, chatting about life, fluffing pillows and micromanaging every new hire - and not reading a single good textbook, much less learning new skills and changing areas every 3 to 5 years, - this seasoned nurse will not succeed despite of all her experience. She will become one of those pitiful, forever lost creatures who never forget to order CBC/diff q24h for 5 days and metodically sign all restrain papers as per policy, but otherwise have no idea what is going on with any of their patients.

Oh, the feeling of finding one of them doubling b-blocker dose for patient with HR of 120, no Foley and Levophed already flowing in and titrating up pretty quickly :angrybird1:

I'll have to agree with a lot of this.

Theprincessbride is correct in, and reinforces my point that, all NP programs should require a minimum amount of RN experience. It affords the NP student a certain level of familiarity and comfort in basic tasks of the NP, but it also serves as a process to weed out applicants. If a school requires 1-2 year minimum in the ICU then it ensures that person can at a minimum function as an ICU nurse. That's saying something IMO.

The type of experience matters. I'm not saying that certain nursing roles don't have value, but working as a case manager or IV team nurse isn't appropriate experience prior to NP school - again IMO. If you go over to a certain PA forum and look at their posters, you'll find that many, many PA matriculants are scribes or CNAs. How in the world that can count as appropriate experience is beyond me.

Unfortunately there are plenty of direct entry NP programs that require no RN experience

Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware that direct entry programs required no nursing experience. I thought that you had to at least have LVN experience to qualify. I must be showing my age because when I went to NP school every one I looked at required 2 years of RN experience.

Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.

This thread is intriguing to me because nursing is my second career and I am currently working as an instructor in an NP program in California. I definitely see a difference in the clinical skill and competence of students who are in online programs vs those with practical experience. I also notice that our (multiple-credentialing-body-approved) classroom curricula tends to reward algorithm-based thinking over critical thinking and creativity. What this means is, when the students get to the primary care clinic, it's as if they are programmed” to think and treat patients one certain way only (which is adherent to current clinical guidelines), with little or no top-of-the-mind consideration for exceptionality, clinical judgement, or individual customization of the treatment plan.

And, concerning the future of NPs, the pervasive emphasis on algorithm-based care in NP education also makes me wonder about the very real possibility of artificial intelligence (AI)/robotic takeover of nursing roles at multiple levels, including the NP role. AI runs on algorithms, and if a healthcare organization's quality measures are tied to those algorithms as well, what's to stop the organization from seeking to guarantee adherence to the clinical guideline algorithms by cutting out the possibility of deviation and choosing AI providers” over NPs (or physicians or PA's)?

I don't know if the HRSA or other projection statistics noted in the article above considered AI as a factor, but there will likely come a time -- I'm thinking within several decades-- when the question of too many NPs” will evolve into how we can all interact most effectively with AI. Check out the following articles if the idea of AI/robotic job displacement grabs your attention:

Will Robots Replace Nurses?

Will robots replace nurses? | Health24

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Specializes in Hospital medicine; NP precepting; staff education.

Regarding robotic acting over critical thinking I'd like to add my thoughts from a hospitalist point-of-view. Order sets have a purpose but I think it raises the risk of diminishing critical thinking. Fine, you want me to hit points on guidelines, core measures, or meaningful use. But what if this set doesn't match the plan I have. Clinical decision making should not be automatic. I was so frustrated with my last admission today because it was a more complex admission and one set over another didn't exactly add up. So I went to a generic critical care set to satisfy TPTB (It included certain requirements such as VTE prophylaxis) and added my own orders. This person had sepsis, pneumonia, two cancers, and possible PE. I actually thing it's a post obstructive pneumonia secondary to his cancer dx and hx of COPD. But his Well's score is 8.5 and the PERC rule supports a high probability of PE. Few robotic guideline adherent only practitioners would put the puzzle pieces together like that.

The FNP program I am in requires bedside experience all right. The problem is that they want any kind of experience - from NICU to LTC. I wonder what students who never in their lives dealt with a kid of any age are actually doing on peds rotation.

Don't let me even start on difficulty and intensity as well... I do not even care to buy some books, much less to read them. I love my Harrison, though.

As I see things standing right now, the problem with advanced practice nursing is not that much with bedside experience as with particular way of thinking, which, IMH(umble)O, at least in part stems directly from mindless following orders, policies and shmolicies of all kinds for years before finally getting into advanced practice. When this way of thinking is combined with chronic deficiency of knowledge, it makes very dangerous mix.

P.S. just to let some people here know, foreign medical grads are eligible for taking all parts of NCLEX without any US education at all as long as they have documents confirming their degree.

I believe your PS is not true anymore, but I am so glad that people are shutting down on the online school shill's commenting in this thread. Thank you, thinking nurses!

you have to have completed 2 years of med school to sit for USMLE, why would anybody drop out of med school to do nursing after 2 years? Very few questions are about treatment rationale, its mostly science based mechanisms on step 1. you probably have never really taken it if you think its about treatments. step 2 and 3 are about treatments.

I went back to med school, currently in 4th year, bc I was ashamed of nurse practitioners. I was one for a year and quit bc I couldnt stand the sight of how ignorant most of them were. The training is lackluster, pathetic, and they should not be able to prescribe medications. Only way I figured out how to survive was by ignoring the curriculum and reading real books like you said. And I went to a state school.

Took me 25 minutes to pass the NCLEX, an hour or so to pass the AANC exam, and the USMLE, while not super difficult, took 8 hours, and was much more thorough than the nursing tests. Step 2 was a little more difficult even but easier to score well on since people do not take it as seriously.

Give me a break with this NP garbage, you learn about 1/8th of what you learn in med school in NP school. I have met a few great NPs but they are few and far between. Sorry, nursing really needs to stay at the bedside, where it belongs at this point. Unless they rehash the curriculum, graduate nursing at the NP level is laughable.

Also, of course there will be an over supply. Its so easy anybody can do it, and they are. Basic economics my friends. And please do not get started on the equality studies. They are funded by nurses, what do you expect the results to show? They also do not control variables well in any of them.

Just look at the pharm industry.... every study done on each companies own drug that is PUBLISHED, shows that their drug is better. Ever think of how many of these equality of NP vs MD studies were performed and tossed bc they did not fit the narrative? It happens in the pharm industry when it is regulated by the FDA, dont think it does not happen in nursing either. Anybody with common sense knows nearly all MD>NP. But the lay person still thinks that the newest antipsychotics work better than the originals when no outside studies have proven this currently.

But hey believe what you want, Dunning Kruger effect at its finest is rampent in the nursing community. (and many others TBH)

Much better said than I did. +1

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It is true right now and not going to change in the foreseeable future.

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Interesting thread. As a PMHNP, I can confirm that the AANP "board certification" exam for Psych NP's is an absolute joke.

If that is all you know, you are a danger to the public.