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The Sad Truth: Online Nursing Schools vs Traditional Schools

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canwil2082 has 7 years experience and specializes in Long Term Care, ER, and Education.

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The stigma of an online degree remains for some brick and mortar schools. The future of nursing education is online in the 21st century. It is time to recognize the fact that some online schools have a better innovative program than traditional schools. You are reading page 10 of The Sad Truth: Online Nursing Schools vs Traditional Schools. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

calivianya is a BSN, RN and specializes in ICU.

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I honestly don't get the stigma associated with online schools. I find online courses much more difficult than taking brick and mortar ones. I learn very easily by listening, so if you stick me in a classroom where I listen to the teacher talking, I won't have to study very much for that class, and can get by without ever touching the textbook. If I have an online class, I actually have to pick up the material and dig through it myself to decide what's important, which is ridiculously time consuming. Online learning is more convenient, but you have to do so much more work to get to the information. I don't get why anybody thinks there's something easy about online education.

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NurseNelly24 has 6 years experience as a BSN and specializes in ER, Tele/Medsurg, Ambulatory PACU.

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I'm in a B&M school for my BSN and I personally don't see the difference in terms of credibility of online or traditional programs...as long as they are accredited. I've always said the only difference between BSN and ADN programs is essentially a few theory, research courses, Health Assessment and Patho(at some schools). While I do see the importance in these programs they don't define whether or not you're gonna be good at your job. At my new job I'm seeing the new grads buckle at their knees for all the work we have to do while Ms. lil ADN grad is doing great. And think about I once u get the degree its not like therell be any fundamental difference in your job lol

I will say though that I understand the stigma that often comes from employers about advanced online degrees. Just as a new resident from a med school in the Carib will receive a bias compared to a resident who wentbto med school in the U.S., same thing will go for employees when they choose a prospective based on the reputation of the school. It doesn't matter how rigorous the program was (which that in itself is subjective) the school in many cases increases your likelihood to at least have your resume evaluated before u even get a call. While I know online advanced degrees will be the norm in the future, I do acknowledge the idea that if you Want the degree you will make sacrifices to go to a good school where you can get a great job. Just my opinion though.

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Octocaesar specializes in Gerontology.

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Technology can be harnessed to improve learning. But online courses are just...insufficient. There are things you learn just by stepping your foot in the campus. Even how long it takes for you to get ready for school builds your time management skills. These tiny little things make a big difference in character building. If I am the employer, I would want to hire "brick-and-mortar" kind of workers, not because I want to bully anyone but because it is my right to protect my investment.

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TheCommuter has 14 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.

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There are things you learn just by stepping your foot in the campus. Even how long it takes for you to get ready for school builds your time management skills.
The typical nurse who has earned an online degree has gotten ready for school many times throughout their college careers. We must be cognizant that no person can become a nurse via an entirely online delivery platform.

These tiny little things make a big difference in character building.
Character? Statistically, cheating services are utilized more frequently and readily by students who attend brick-and-mortar classes. A cheater is going to cheat, regardless of the coursework delivery platform. A person of ill repute is not going to suddenly develop character by plopping his butt inside a lecture hall seat.

If I am the employer, I would want to hire "brick-and-mortar" kind of workers, not because I want to bully anyone but because it is my right to protect my investment.
Although I respect your choice to reject applicants who have earned their degrees via distance-based delivery platforms, I do not necessarily agree with it. You will be missing out on some darned good employees.

However, the silver lining can be unearthed in the fact that these potentially rejected candidates will thrive with another employer who is more open-minded and aligned with modern times.

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Angeljho is a MSN, NP and specializes in Mental Health Nursing.

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Technology can be harnessed to improve learning. But online courses are just...insufficient. There are things you learn just by stepping your foot in the campus. Even how long it takes for you to get ready for school builds your time management skills. These tiny little things make a big difference in character building. If I am the employer, I would want to hire "brick-and-mortar" kind of workers, not because I want to bully anyone but because it is my right to protect my investment.

Let's hope you're never an "employer" then. While employers can hire anyone they see fit based on their own beliefs, I see so much fault in that. Everyone is different. I actually think it takes a dedicated, hard-worker to get through an online program. If I'm eventually the hiring manager, NM, or CNO of a facility, I would hope I don't select nurses based on bias and unproven beliefs.

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GadgetRN71 has 14 years experience as a ASN, RN and specializes in Operating Room.

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Many B&M programs are moving their RN to BSN online for the majority of the program. Don't judge an entire group of people based on what an older, experienced nurse told you. One could argue that these old timers fear technology and computers. What's that you say? I shouldn't generalize? Well, neither should you.

And FWIW, I have taken both kinds of classes. My online classeswere more work in many ways. You had to participate via discussion backed up by APA references. Papers had to be submitted through Turnitin. We had to do Powerpoint presentations narrated on the computer. My in person classes were a cake walk. you could sit in the back of the class and not open your mouth once.

Thankfully, in my area they don't care where you got your BSN as long as the program is accredited. I have had DONs and NMs with degrees from online schools. Many facilities offer discounts to online programs. One of the state schools here is moving the RN to BSN program completely online.

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I'm in a B&M school for my BSN and I personally don't see the difference in terms of credibility of online or traditional programs...as long as they are accredited. I've always said the only difference between BSN and ADN programs is essentially a few theory, research courses, Health Assessment and Patho(at some schools). While I do see the importance in these programs they don't define whether or not you're gonna be good at your job. At my new job I'm seeing the new grads buckle at their knees for all the work we have to do while Ms. lil ADN grad is doing great. And think about I once u get the degree its not like therell be any fundamental difference in your job lol

I will say though that I understand the stigma that often comes from employers about advanced online degrees. Just as a new resident from a med school in the Carib will receive a bias compared to a resident who wentbto med school in the U.S., same thing will go for employees when they choose a prospective based on the reputation of the school. It doesn't matter how rigorous the program was (which that in itself is subjective) the school in many cases increases your likelihood to at least have your resume evaluated before u even get a call. While I know online advanced degrees will be the norm in the future, I do acknowledge the idea that if you Want the degree you will make sacrifices to go to a good school where you can get a great job. Just my opinion though.

I agree I am currently going to school online for a veterinary technician degree something I was trying to do at a physical school that I still owe money to right now. And I was told before I went to Sanford brown college that their acrediations by the AVMA was not there at all.

They were apparently working toward their getting accreditations but had not gotten them. I did the research myself the second time I went to another school and had some friends of mine that are more knowledgeable about this kind of thing then I am....before I went to PennFoster...but I was told by multiple people that the accreditation is intact there.

And seeing is how its been all over the news that SanFord brown has been shut down nation wide. I don't think that going to a physical school makes it better then going online I think the accreditation and if it stands up when you have to your exams is the thing anyone should may that much attention to.

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CelticGoddess has 6 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Palliative, Onc, Med-Surg, Home Hospice.

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Technology can be harnessed to improve learning. But online courses are just...insufficient. There are things you learn just by stepping your foot in the campus. Even how long it takes for you to get ready for school builds your time management skills. These tiny little things make a big difference in character building. If I am the employer, I would want to hire "brick-and-mortar" kind of workers, not because I want to bully anyone but because it is my right to protect my investment.

It's interesting that one of my former classmates was able to cheat her way through her BSN at a top brick and mortar school but was kicked out of the online MSN program for cheating. (Never use a a published PhD nurses papers for your own, even if she is your sister).

And I actually edged out a nurse who got her BSN from a brick and mortar school, even though I got my BSN from an online only school. Apparently my manager thought he was protecting his investment by hiring me. He still doesn't regret it.

I have plenty of character, thank you very much. I didn't have to get my character from a brick and mortal school. It is something I actually had prior to becoming a nurse. Character isn't taught.

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ResearchNurseRNCCRC specializes in Research, Otolaryngology, Oncology.

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I graduated from an online university and obtained my MSN in 2011. In 2014, I was offered my first online teaching position. I now teach for an university that is both "brick and mortar" and online. I teach online research courses as an adjunct. I will be starting with a new university this fall, as well. I've had plenty of "rejections" along the way, however. I'm just not the perfect fit for every job I apply for.

Don't give up. While I do agree with you that some schools will snub you and your "online nursing degree" I believe that we will come full circle in time. Technology is not going away; rather, it is going strong and on the rise- exponentially!

I wish you the best. You'll get in, just be persistent!

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Personally, I would never hire a person who obtained their RN or APN degree online. You are part of the problem, and perpetuat it by attending crappy online nursing or APN programs.

Nursing is a very hands on skill and to ever think you can master that skill by taking classes online, not interacting face to face with your peers and professors, is frankly ignorant. And for you to call it bullying on the employer end is laughable. I think your making the right decision going back to school.

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Agreed. Sorry, but if you dont have experience as a nurse, you fast tracked and/or did your education online, I would not hire you.

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tsm007 has 2 years experience.

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Personally, I would never hire a person who obtained their RN or APN degree online. You are part of the problem, and perpetuat it by attending crappy online nursing or APN programs.

Nursing is a very hands on skill and to ever think you can master that skill by taking classes online, not interacting face to face with your peers and professors, is frankly ignorant. And for you to call it bullying on the employer end is laughable. I think your making the right decision going back to school.

I went to WGU's prelicensure ONLINE program. It's hybrid. Theory online/clinicals in person. Love, love, loved it. I got more hands on clinical time than most of the other students I seen at the hospital. I got to actually do stuff because I was paired with a nurse one to one. Where the other schools had to sit around and wait for their one instructor for what 6 to 8 students to be around to supervise them. Instead I was supervised by an RN. It was awesome. Secondly on the floor I can tell you I am the nurse my coworkers go to when they need help with technology.

Who knows don't be surprised when your boss has a Master's degree from an online program.

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