Published Aug 23, 2012
LCinTraining
308 Posts
Ive skimmed the 400 pages for this lecture, attended lecture and attempted some practice questions from the book. It seems so ... All over the place and not as organized as they keep saying it is. The multiple graphs and flow charts and diagrams they showed in lecture are merely confusing me. Please tell me I am over thinking this and that it's not as hard to comprehend as I am making it.
Abigail612
118 Posts
It really is not as complicated as you are making it just remeber ADPIE...
Assessment- You asses where the patient currently is.
Dianosis- Your create you nursing diagnosis
Plan- You and you patient create goals and a stragie for the patient to obtain those goals
Implementation- You implement your plan
Evaluation- you come back later and evaluate if the goals where met
Nolli
236 Posts
It does take some getting used to, but Abigail is correct. ADPIE will stick with you for a long time. The problem I have seen most people struggle with is getting used to the nursing diagnosis. It is not like a regular medical diagnosis, but addresses problems the patient faces and attempts to solve them. Say you have someone who just had surgery. A few examples of a nursing diagnosis might be risk for infection, acute pain, anxiety. Goals are one of the other part I have seen people struggle with. In order to be considered a proper goal it has have a measurable result and a time limit to achieve said result by. So for the acute pain you can say that patient expresses that they have a 0 out of 10 on the pain scale within 30 minutes of administration of analgesic.
ddunnrn
231 Posts
The Nursing Process is really the Scientific Method in disguise:
The steps of the scientific method are to:
from: Steps of the Scientific Method
The first 2 steps comprise the assessment, the hypothesis is analogous to the diagnosi; you plan the intervention, and analyze the outcomes as an experiment, and then reevaluate and document your results.
Personally, I'm wondering how any lecturer can find 400 pages to drag out a relatively simple concept.
Camwill, ASN, BSN, MSN, DNP, LPN, APRN, NP
526 Posts
We have a test next thursday over nursing process, safety precautions, vital signs, and health assessment. It is going to be a long weekend...
Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN
20,908 Posts
Here are the steps of the nursing process and what you should be doing in each step when you are doing a written care plan/care map: ADPIE. From our beloved Daytonite....RIP
A Care plan/care map is nothing more than the written documentation of the nursing process you use to solve one or more of a patients nursing problems. The nursing process itself is a problem solving method that was extrapolated from the scientific method used by the various science disciplines in proving or disproving theories. Tune of the main goals every nursing school wants its RNs to learn by graduation is how to use the nursing process to solve patient problems.
Care plan reality: The foundation of any care plan is the signs, symptoms or responses that patient is having to what is happening to them. What is happening to them could be a medical disease, a physical condition, a failure to be able to perform ADLs(activities of daily living), or a failure to be able to interact appropriately or successfully within their environment. Therefore, one of your primary aims as a problem solver is to collect as much data as you can get your hands on.......the more the better. You will have to be a detective and always be on the alert and lookout for clues.......at all times. That is within the spirit of step #1 of this whole nursing process.
Assessment is an important skill. It will take you a long time to become proficient in assessing patients. assessment not only includes doing the traditional head-to-toe exam, but also listening to what patients have to say and questioning them. history can reveal import clues. It takes time and experience to know what questions to ask to elicit good answers. part of this assessment process is knowing the pathophysiology of the medical disease or condition that the patient has. But, there will be times that this won't be known. Just keep in mind that you have to be like a nurse detective always snooping around and looking for those clues.
A nursing diagnosis standing by itself means nothing.
The meat of the care plan of yours will lie in the abnormal data (symptoms) that you collected during your assessment of this patient. In order for you to pick any nursing diagnoses for a patient you need to know what the patient's symptoms are.
Care plan reality: Is actually a shorthand label for the patient problem. The patient problem is more accurately described in the definition of this nursing diagnosis (every nanda nursing diagnosis has a definition). [thanks daytonite]
What I would suggest you do is to work the nursing process from step
#1. Take a look at the information you collected on the patient during your physical assessment and review of their medical record. Start making a list of abnormal data which will now become a list of their symptoms.
#2. Don't forget to include an assessment of their ability to perform adls (because that's what we nurses shine at). The ADLS are bathing, dressing, transferring from bed or chair, walking, eating, toilet use, and grooming. and, one more thing you should do is to look up information about symptoms that stand out to you.
#3. What is the physiology and what are the signs and symptoms (manifestations) you are likely to see in the patient. Did you miss any of the signs and symptoms in the patient? If so, now is the time to add them to your list.
This is all part of preparing to move onto the next step of the process which is
#4. Determining your patients problem and choosing nursing diagnoses. but, you have to have those signs, symptoms and patient responses to back it all up.
#5. How are all your interventions changing/helping this patient.
You, I and just about everyone we know have been using a form of the scientific process, or nursing process, to solve problems that come up in our daily lives since we were little kids.
For example: As a contributor to AN....Daytonite said best.
You are driving along and suddenly you hear a bang, you start having trouble controlling your car's direction and it's hard to keep your hands on the steering wheel. You pull over to the side of the road. "What's wrong?" You're thinking. You look over the dashboard and none of the warning lights are blinking. You decide to get out of the car and take a look at the outside of the vehicle. You start walking around it. Then, you see it..............a huge nail is sticking out of one of the rear tires and the tire is noticeably deflated.
What you have just done is.......
Step #1 of the nursing process--performed an assessment. You determine that you have a flat tire. You have just done.....
Step #2 of the nursing process--made a diagnosis. The little squirrel starts running like crazy in the wheel up in your brain. "What do i do?" You are thinking. You could call AAA. No, you can save the money and do it yourself. You can replace the tire by changing out the flat one with the spare in the trunk. .......Good thing you took that class in how to do simple maintenance and repairs on a car!
You have just done.....
Step #3 of the nursing process--planning (developed a goal and intervention). You get the jack and spare tire out of the trunk, roll up your sleeves and get to work. You have just done.....
Step #4 of the nursing process--implementation of the plan. After the new tire is installed you put the flat one in the trunk along with the jack, dust yourself off, take a long drink of that bottle of water you had with you and prepare to drive off. You begin slowly to test the feel as you drive....... Good....... Everything seems fine. The spare tire seems to be ok and off you go and on your way. You have just done
Step #5 of the nursing process--evaluation (determined if your goal was met).
Does this make more sense? Can you relate to that? That's about as simple as the nursing process can be simplified to... BUT........ you have the follow those 5 steps in that sequence or you will get lost in the woods and lose your focus of what you are trying to accomplish.
critical thinking involves knowing:
So I am sure this is now clear as mud.......questions?
You may find this helpful.....Nursing Proccess & Critical Thinking Guide | NursingProccessSteps.com
Mama_Cashew, ASN, RN
179 Posts
It really is not as complicated as you are making it just remeber ADPIE...Assessment- You asses where the patient currently is. Dianosis- Your create you nursing diagnosisPlan- You and you patient create goals and a stragie for the patient to obtain those goalsImplementation- You implement your planEvaluation- you come back later and evaluate if the goals where met
THANK YOU so much for this. I kept forgetting one of the steps and your "ADPIE" just saved my sanity!
:yelclap:
Chad Collins
69 Posts
If you remeber your ABC's and ADPIE and Maslow's Pyramid you can work through almost any nursing situation. Hang in there it will get better.
VickyRN, MSN, DNP, RN
49 Articles; 5,349 Posts
This may be of help to you:
https://allnurses.com/nursing-student-assistance/student-resources-nursing-424826.html
I forgot about that VickyRN......I will have to place that in my reference threads!!!
Thanks for all the input. I just got off working a 16 unexpectedly, and am passing out for a bit. Then I'm going to go back and read this stuff.