IS the hard truth for most nurses definitely new grads is that poop cleaning and urine collection RN jobs are all that is open?
Pretty much bedside care, running around like a chicken with your head cutoff.
I don't think ICU solves the issue either.
Definitely thinking about different degree, since experience is the only way to open up other nursing positions, but I am not about to work bedside for 10 years. I would rather go back to school.
I have a couple of months of bedside experience so is there anything else I can do besides bedside care? If not I have no choice to move on.
There is no way I can pursue marriage a family by bringing home income this way. Just not going to happen.
Specializes in Med nurse in med-surg., float, HH, and PDN.
I'm currently doing clinicals in a place I thought did not exist.....a LTC that is still 100% paper charting. I hear, "let's do the time warp again..." playing in my head often when I'm there.
There are way more of these paper-driven LTC's than you'd ever think possible in this day and age!
ETA: I have always said that when I die and go to Heaven, I am going to ask God...."why did you allow so much hair to grow around some folks' rectums?"
I do love public health nursing which is impossible to get. I will try again at the health department when positions show up, but I am also going to attempt another degree program.
The reason I did not quit is because I would not be able to apply to other programs. I would look like a quitter. Also I saw that there were clinical jobs in nursing too, not all bedside care. But seems I need at least 2 year experience to be safe and find something else.
Sorry to have come off as if I completely hate nursing. I do not. I think it is an honorable job, but not respected by many, low recognition, random hours, and over worked and at times not enough support.
As far as cleaning poop, babies is a joke, try it on an adult all day long. You seem to be very arrogant to say it is easy to clean butts. Think before you speak. Adults and peds is different. At times I get obese patients too. What about those? Is that cake for you to do too? You have such a cocky absolute response.
OVerall I was hoping to find some constructive responses to help me find somethign else besides bedside nursing. I see that there is nothing else. I pretty much have the answer.
Medical labor is all we do, but we are also not in debt like docs :)
Take care all.
I think you are just keeping it real. I am not going to lie and say nursing is all cherries and cream because it is not. I realize what areas I was not going to do, breaking my back. I went into the NICU, it is an unspoken gem of an area to be, at least back then for me. I am getting older and wish to be out of bedside all together. You just gotta research and find your niche. I had a classmate that did not like even touching patients she ended being a case manager. So just be true to yourself and find your niche :-)
"What did you expect", seems to be the general consensus by the majority of opinions. Amazing and predictable, when self-advocating for better working conditions or compensation in nursing is replaced with throwing your co-workers under the bus. Hopefully, this ensures that management will leave you alone and you'll continue without proper equipment or staffing. After all, it's a higher calling and in a female dominated profession, and you can't possibly expect more for yourself.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
"What did you expect", seems to be the general consensus by the majority of opinions. Amazing and predictable, when self-advocating for better working conditions or compensation in nursing is replaced with throwing your co-workers under the bus. Hopefully, this ensures that management will leave you alone and you'll continue without proper equipment or staffing. After all, it's a higher calling and in a female dominated profession, and you can't possibly expect more for yourself.
"What did you expect?" is a valid question.
When one wants to work in acute care, bodily functions are part of the job. There isn't anyone on the forum who doesn't poop, pee, expectorate. bleed or vomit from time to time. We all have pretty much the same physiology. When someone is hospitalized and cannot attend to those functions independently, someone has to help them. That "someone" is on the nursing staff. There's a difference between advocating for better working conditions and evading responsibility for helping patients deal with normal bodily functions and fluids.
Decrying the necessity for helping patients with poop, pee and all those other fluids isn't "advocating for better working conditions" and asking "what did you expect" isn't throwing coworkers under the bus.
And as for the misogyny in your post -- that's neither a valid point nor a smart argument.
IS the hard truth for most nurses definitely new grads is that poop cleaning and urine collection RN jobs are all that is open?
Pretty much bedside care, running around like a chicken with your head cutoff.
I don't think ICU solves the issue either.
Definitely thinking about different degree, since experience is the only way to open up other nursing positions, but I am not about to work bedside for 10 years. I would rather go back to school.
I have a couple of months of bedside experience so is there anything else I can do besides bedside care? If not I have no choice to move on.
There is no way I can pursue marriage a family by bringing home income this way. Just not going to happen.
I haven't read the other 226 replies (!), but I'm gonna invoke Patricia Benner in this thread. You are a new grad (?) with only a couple months bedside experience? Don't get stuck at the advanced beginner or competence level of nursing (remember, Benner says that many nurses do, regardless of their years of experience, and I can anecdotally attest to that in my observations of 1-yearish new grads who think there's nothing more to learn), and I think you'll see that there is more to being an RN than poop and pee cleaning.
Give it a whirl! Maybe you'll like bedside nursing more. Hone your assessment skills, and see what a difference you can make. Over the past four years, I've worked on that diligently, and I can confidently state that I facilitate getting them to ICU a couple hours prior to needing intubation, even when other nurses are saying, "He's not that bad!" My past three rapid responses went to ICU and were intubated by the end of shift. I don't like having to save someone's life on the floor.
To the OP. Looking back at your previous post about being fired and how nurses don't do science and "how there are no brains involved" it is probably appropriate to find another career.
Because if that is what nursing is to you let me promise you that you are doing it WAY wrong.
Oh, this explains why the OP is stuck at the beginner or advanced beginner level. The OP apparently doesn't even recognize when brain power is needed. Too bad.
When one wants to work in acute care, bodily functions are part of the job. There isn't anyone on the forum who doesn't poop, pee, expectorate. bleed or vomit from time to time. We all have pretty much the same physiology. When someone is hospitalized and cannot attend to those functions independently, someone has to help them. That "someone" is on the nursing staff. There's a difference between advocating for better working conditions and evading responsibility for helping patients deal with normal bodily functions and fluids.
Decrying the necessity for helping patients with poop, pee and all those other fluids isn't "advocating for better working conditions" and asking "what did you expect" isn't throwing coworkers under the bus.
And as for the misogyny in your post -- that's neither a valid point nor a smart argument.
When one wants to work in acute care, bodily functions are part of the job. There isn't anyone on the forum who doesn't poop, pee, expectorate. bleed or vomit from time to time. We all have pretty much the same physiology. When someone is hospitalized and cannot attend to those functions independently, someone has to help them. That "someone" is on the nursing staff. There's a difference between advocating for better working conditions and evading responsibility for helping patients deal with normal bodily functions and fluids.
Decrying the necessity for helping patients with poop, pee and all those other fluids isn't "advocating for better working conditions" and asking "what did you expect" isn't throwing coworkers under the bus.
And as for the misogyny in your post -- that's neither a valid point nor a smart argument.
The original post contained the phrase, "running around like a chicken with your head cutoff", and yet, you, and the majority of the people chose to ignore that. This is either intentional, due to your agendas, or due to low reading comprehensions. I love women and consider myself a feminist, but thanks. You again, are missing the point, women are told to be submissive and go along to get along. Which most women seem to fine with, when it comes to administration and management, but on here and with your co-workers your attitude and tone is very typical.
Specializes in Med nurse in med-surg., float, HH, and PDN.
It's an example of a faulty coping technique, which you can Google.
Lordy, I know what it is, I don't have to Google it. I was just wondering how the poster figured what she was talking about qualified as 'throwing" ec., etc.
Just never mind. It was a comment aimed at the other poster. I wasn't asking for an explanation.
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There are way more of these paper-driven LTC's than you'd ever think possible in this day and age!
ETA: I have always said that when I die and go to Heaven, I am going to ask God...."why did you allow so much hair to grow around some folks' rectums?"