The Guys Club: Guy Students Come on In!

agent · Nov 10, 2003

Menetopali,

great post!

jemride>> i thought about doing PA as well, but I needed to do a night program.. i may just end up a NP, which would be fine for me.

What the big difference anyway? Do NP's have harder time finding jobs than PA's?

manna, BSN, RN · Nov 10, 2003

Originally posted by agent
What the big difference anyway? Do NP's have harder time finding jobs than PA's?

I think there's a difference in training in the medical vs. nursing model.

PAs have only VERY recently been licensed to practice in my home state... supposedly the NPs were "keeping them out." *shrug*

KrisRNwannabe · Nov 11, 2003

I realize that as a female I am intruding but oh well!! I just wanted to say how nice it is that so many men are getting into nursing. we need more men around (i prefer single men but...) :devil:

anyways just wanted to say hi and good luck

kris

Mjollnir · Nov 11, 2003

Howdy

I'm presently considering joining the nursing profession. I'm 22 and about to graduate with an economics degree, but would honestly much rather work helping and serving others than working a drab office job. I've learned quite a bit from reading the posts--ups as well as downs. But I've got a question or two yet. Do guys get stuck doing a lot more grunt work than the ladies? I'm not necessarily opposed to doing tasks in proportion with my physical strength, but would not appreciate having a full load of patients and then having to help additionally with everyone else's heavy and/or rowdy patients on a regular basis. I would appreciate anyone's experiences. Also, I think the term "male nurse" is kind of lame. Anyone like the term "nürse" as a replacement?

~Mjollnir~

agent · Nov 11, 2003

Yeah i think applying a sex term to nursing is rediculous..

They dont say "female doctor" even though doctoring has been a notoriously male dominated profession in the past.

menetopali · Nov 11, 2003

mjollnir,

i haven't had much extra 'grunt work' thrown my way. that may or may not be because of where i work (a GI lab) doesn't get patients that require alot of physical strength to handle. on the rare occasion that a patient gets a bit more 'active' under sedation than we would expect or like, I have been called into a room to help on occasion. i hope this helps.

ceska2 · Nov 11, 2003

Single 21 year old senior nursing student from Grand Rapids Michigan. Im done in August!! Plan on working in the SICU short term and then heading anesthesia school.

Ceska2

agent · Nov 12, 2003

Guys' Club Creator Update:

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Am I just an ass or does the constant complaining and whining about how nurses are having it so rough, not making enough money, and not being respected really starting to annoy anyone else??

I keep posting to these threads asking them what they think a possible solution is. Hardly any of the thread originators ever post a response. I can tell you I'm pretty fed up.

I think I'm so prepared though that if when I graduate so doc or anyone is going to dog me, give me shitty pay, or just generally disrespect me, I will annihilate them.

Let's here it for selling yourself tall and not short, and standing up for yourself.

1. About pay:

There's a nursing shortage because nurses don't want to work some of these jobs, not cause there's actually a shortage right?

This should open the door for shopping around and negotiating a much higher salary somewhere else. There's jobs out there. Stop acting like a old doormat and go show what you're worth.

Bottom line: If you can't do it yourself then just unionize.. geezus.

2. About respect: Two things about respect

Respect is earned, and respect is commanded. You need to be able to command the respect that you have earned from doing a good job. If you cannot command it, people will generally not give you the courtesy even though you deserve it.

If you're new, earn the respect. Once you've earned it, be the owner of it. Command it and drive it to fulfill your own needs.

That's all. Sorry for the rant, but its been seriously bothering me.

tnstudentnurse · Nov 13, 2003

Well for me I am in tn and in the first semester of nursing school and it is kiling me big time. I am glad i found the guys club. at jscc there is 10 guys to about 61 girls.

hoorah guys!

agent · Nov 13, 2003

Thanks for stopping by

I hope for this to be a good spot for us to share our experiences

Gragorin · Nov 14, 2003

I'm not quite a student nurse but it's something that I have been thinking about. I'm currenly a network engineer who's been doing this for about 10 years now and I'm finally just sick of it. The lack of the emotional rewards and the lack of a feeling that I've actually done something to help somebody.

I'm not sure which way I'll go though. I'm at the very least going to get a BSN. I'm even considering to go full med but I'm not sure about the time required.

Anywho, as I posted to another thread. Wether I want to get into the field or not is somewhat irrelevant due to a toal lack of available classes in my area to complete the pre-reqs and even the core classes. It's very frustrating since I've been trying for going on two semesters now to get the Biology classes.

Altra, BSN, RN · Nov 14, 2003

Originally posted by agent
Guys' Club Creator Update:
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Am I just an ass or does the constant complaining and whining about how nurses are having it so rough, not making enough money, and not being respected really starting to annoy anyone else??
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I think I'm so prepared though that if when I graduate so doc or anyone is going to dog me, give me shitty pay, or just generally disrespect me, I will annihilate them.
...

Let's here it for selling yourself tall and not short, and standing up for yourself.
That's all. Sorry for the rant, but its been seriously bothering me.

No, I don't think you're an ass, Agent ... it's been bugging me too, and somehow there's no "Female-But-Not-A-Doormat" forum for me to post that in, so I hope nobody minds if I do it here.

I think it comes down to 2 things for long-term nurses: 1) the total cultural change that came to health care with managed care, and 2) having to re-learn the "rules of the game" - getting along in the almost all-female world of nursing and co-existing with almost all-male docs meant one thing 20 years ago - and it means something vastly different now. This is not unique to nursing - there are plenty of people in every profession who long for the "good old days." I'm not saying things are better/worse now or then - I can't - I don't have the experience. But this is just my observation. I'm glad I'm not going into nursing with that kind of baggage.

Just my 2 cents - I'll go back to the chicks' side of the room now - lol.

Leigh