The film: Vaxxed.

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At first I wasn't going to write this post since I believe that a film that appears to be (at least in part) based on thoroughly discredited, fear-mongering nonsense should get as little attention as possible.

Then after browsing several anti-vaccine and conspiracist websites I found as I suspected, that this has already exploded and whatever I write here won't make matters any worse.

The film 'Vaxxed' is directed by Mr Andrew Wakefield, a former physician who lost his medical license after research that he had authored, was found fraudulent (containing as I understand it, both methodological and ethical flaws).

Vaxxed: Tribeca festival withdraws MMR film - BBC News

Just watching the trailer for this film elevated my BP into dangerous territory. How is it that this man keeps promoting the same debunked data to this day? Hasn't it caused enough harm already?

Vaxxed From Cover Up to Catastrophe TRAILER - YouTube

It seems that anti-vaccine proponents span the entire spectrum from sadly misinformed to clearly unhinged. However, no matter what their individual motivation happens to be, they are in my opinion dangerous. We have fought a hard battle against diseases that today are vaccine-preventable. Millions of children have died in the past and some still do, to this day. We don't see much of it in first-world countries due to the success of vaccines. Anti-vaccine proponents seem to believe that the "olden days" were better. I think it's deeply worrisome.

In my escapades around the internet, I've found all sorts of scary blogs, clips and opinions relating to childhood vaccines.

This YouTube clip rather amusingly (in a sad way) has 90 likes and zero (!) dislikes (probably because no rational person would even click on it in the first place). (I'm not sure what this says about me :lol2:)

Doctors Who Discovered Cancer Enzymes In Vaccines All Found Murdered. - YouTube

Anyway this women thinks that nagalese (an enzyme) is added on purpose to vaccines in order to induce autism, cancer and type 2 diabetes in vaccine recipients. And the doctors who discovered this were subsequently murdered :eek: to cover this up. This vaccine tampering seems to be a part of some nefarious population control plot.

(It seems that alpha-N-acetylgalactoseaminidase (referred to as nagalese in the YouTube clip) can deglycosylate vitamin D binding protein (DBP) and DBP plays a role in the immune cascade response. So it seems that alpha-N-acetylgalactosaminidase can interfere with the immune response. While some cancer cells can release alpha-N-acetylgalactosaminidase, I've found no proof that injecting them into humans induces cancers, never mind autism and DMII. I will however admit that I didn't spend an inordinate amount of time researching her theory).

I admit that this last video is a bit extreme. But this woman and other "anti-vaxxers" have one thing on common. They are willing to accept something as true, even when there is no supporting evidence available.

Serious questions:

* Why are some people so vulnerable/susceptible to flawed logic and poor research?

* What can we as nurses/healthcare professionals do to ensure that our patients base their decisions on sound evidence-based facts or at least have the opportunity to do so? Or should we just reconcile ourselves with the fact that a portion of the population will base their decisions on questionable or outright false information, misconceptions and fear?

Before praising or condemning the film "VAXXED", it would be nice if everyone can actually SEE the film. The film "VAXXED" is going to be available at various movie theaters, for starters. I would like to see the film, for myself. I'm wondering what is scaring the CDC (Centers for Disease Control), so much, that they don't want anyone to see the film!! Word has it, that it's the exposing of the unsavory activities of the CDC, by the "whistleblower" Dr. William Thompson, phD, where Dr. Thompson confesses to being part of the COVERUP by the CDC (of destroying evidence/data, showing a connection between AUTISM & some vaccine ingredients). I don't think we are in a Communist dictatorship, here in America, so there should be freedom of speech & of freedom to show and view/see the film.

Proven by who? Usually if a person goes against the flow, They are stripped of their license. It is a way to get the MD to conform and go against what they have found. Ask ANY MD in school they did not learn how to cure any disease. They were taught what medicine to give and then what to give for the side effect of that drug... until the patient has so many they cant keep up. They are taught to vaccinate. Do you realize when a fresh vaccinated child goes around someone with no immune system the vaccine is shedding and they vaccinated child is passing on the disease to all he comes in contact with. Most of the breakouts of late have come from vaccinated kids. What is wrong with letting the body do what it was made to do. Eat whole foods and build your immune system to take care of you instead of breaking it down.

On top of that this is supposed to be America where your free to make your own choice. People do not need your "teaching" to convince to vaccinate their child. People who do not vaccinate have had plenty of research on it. They KNOW not to put poison in their child or themselves. It is their INFORMED decision. Quit trying to force patients to go against what they have decided for them and their families. What happened to if a patient says no they "refused" and leave it at that? If people would file charges on nurses that force or try to force them against their will for assault then more nurses would realize they have made their informed decision.

Please provide one documented instance of a nurse physically forcing a vaccine on anyone, whether child or adult. I postulate that you won't find one, much less the MULTIPLES you are claiming.

Do you realize when a fresh vaccinated child goes around someone with no immune system the vaccine is shedding and they vaccinated child is passing on the disease to all he comes in contact with.

First of all, how many people are walking around with "no immune system"? I'd say none, because those folks are all safely ensconced in the bone marrow transplant unit.

Secondly, vaccine shedding is really poorly understood by lay people. Millions of children with young siblings are vaccinated each year. If your little theory were true, we should be seeing hundreds of thousands of infant siblings showing up with polio, diptheria, measles, pertussis, etc., right? Oh wait-it doesn't happen.

Most of the breakouts of late have come from vaccinated kids.

Citation, please?

What is wrong with letting the body do what it was made to do. Eat whole foods and build your immune system to take care of you instead of breaking it down.

No one is stopping you or yours from doing so. They are simply stating that your right to infect others stops at the public school door. Own your decisions and home school your kids, keep them away from other vulnerable human beings.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
Before praising or condemning the film "VAXXED", it would be nice if everyone can actually SEE the film. The film "VAXXED" is going to be available at various movie theaters, for starters. I would like to see the film, for myself. I'm wondering what is scaring the CDC (Centers for Disease Control), so much, that they don't want anyone to see the film!! Word has it, that it's the exposing of the unsavory activities of the CDC, by the "whistleblower" Dr. William Thompson, phD, where Dr. Thompson confesses to being part of the COVERUP by the CDC (of destroying evidence/data, showing a connection between AUTISM & some vaccine ingredients). I don't think we are in a Communist dictatorship, here in America, so there should be freedom of speech & of freedom to show and view/see the film.

One doesn't need to "see the film" to consider the damage it can cause as we are all well aware of the pseudoscientists' desire for "proof" that supports their claim, and that is exactly how the movie will be used, to forward a baised and dangerous agenda.

The CDC (and I would venture to say, the vast majority of healthcare workers) is "scared" of further decline in immunization rates which are already dangerously low in many locales.

The movie is not going to expose and unsavory activities. All that information has been readily available for quite some time. There was no "destroying evidence". The was a small amount of data that was not included in the study because of a valid reason in the study design.

There is freedom of speech which is why we are all able to discuss it and producer are able to make a movie that prays on the public to generate profit.

Specializes in Pharmaceutical Research, Operating Room.
These people who are table thumping about "research" most likely don't even know how to interpret a research study in the first place!

Yes, because if we're not NP students going to a "very prestigious school", we're apparently too stupid to be able to interpret research studies. Right.

Specializes in allergy and asthma, urgent care.
Before praising or condemning the film "VAXXED", it would be nice if everyone can actually SEE the film. The film "VAXXED" is going to be available at various movie theaters, for starters. I would like to see the film, for myself. I'm wondering what is scaring the CDC (Centers for Disease Control), so much, that they don't want anyone to see the film!! Word has it, that it's the exposing of the unsavory activities of the CDC, by the "whistleblower" Dr. William Thompson, phD, where Dr. Thompson confesses to being part of the COVERUP by the CDC (of destroying evidence/data, showing a connection between AUTISM & some vaccine ingredients). I don't think we are in a Communist dictatorship, here in America, so there should be freedom of speech & of freedom to show and view/see the film.

I will not likely see the film, not because I am scared, but because I am disgusted that this "pseudoscience" continues to be perpetuated. False information is spread and people, especially children, are harmed. I will not give my hard earned money to those who continue to spread this misinformation. You, of course, may do as you choose. No one is stopping anyone from seeing the film.

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
Rocknurse, you rock! Methinks the CDC doth protest too much. Let's hear from the "lead scientist" from the CDC--now a "whistleblower", named Dr. William Thompson, phD, who wants to testify before Congress, as to the destruction by the CDC, of important data, that indeed showed a connection between AUTISM and some vaccine ingredients. I wonder what the holdup is--could it be some vaccine manufacturers would prefer to NOT have any evidence of vaccine adverse side effects shared with the public? Hmmm. I wonder why BILLIONS of dollars have been paid to families of VACCINE INJURED OR KILLED children, by the Vaccine Court??? Just sayin'....

I am not sure if you are just parroting back what you have read in blogs or if you are actively sensationalizing the extant information, but either way, it's clear that you don't really understand exactly what happened with Thompson and the CDC.

Not to mention what Thompson went on to say: "I want to be absolutely clear that I believe vaccines have saved and continue to save countless lives. I would never suggest that any parent avoid vaccinating children of any race. Vaccines prevent serious diseases, and the risks associated with their administration are vastly outweighed by their individual and societal benefits."

Wow, BCgradnurse. You wrote "One doesn't need to "see the film"...." . Are you afraid to see something that doesn't necessarily agree with your present ideas?

I dare you to see the film, and then tell us what you think.

It's very unscientific, to pretend that you are a fortune teller, and that you can, in advance, tell us that the film doesn't need to be seen.

I personally will reserve judgment, until I have seen the film. I'm not afraid to do this. Why are you afraid?

Yes, because if we're not NP students going to a "very prestigious school", we're apparently too stupid to be able to interpret research studies. Right.

I'm a mere ADN. What's research, Precious?

The typical anti vaxxer stance is that vaccines, which are composed of tiny particles of inactivated or even "killed" viruses, are harmful to human beings. Yet they believe that humans are not even MORE vulnerable to full strength viruses and bacteria! That's a pretty ass backward thought process.

If you think obtaining ‘natural immunity' is better, you are assuming that your child's immune system is strong enough to fight off the diseases naturally. If that is the case, then it's strong enough to fight off the tiny amounts of dead or disabled pathogens present in vaccines.

Specializes in MICU, ED, Med/Surg, SNF, LTC, DNS.
Before praising or condemning the film "VAXXED", it would be nice if everyone can actually SEE the film. The film "VAXXED" is going to be available at various movie theaters, for starters. I would like to see the film, for myself. I'm wondering what is scaring the CDC (Centers for Disease Control), so much, that they don't want anyone to see the film!! Word has it, that it's the exposing of the unsavory activities of the CDC, by the "whistleblower" Dr. William Thompson, phD, where Dr. Thompson confesses to being part of the COVERUP by the CDC (of destroying evidence/data, showing a connection between AUTISM & some vaccine ingredients). I don't think we are in a Communist dictatorship, here in America, so there should be freedom of speech & of freedom to show and view/see the film.

:roflmao: Actually, I would agree with your first sentence. But this thread was derailed 22 pages ago for the similar topic of Vaccinations. I could not assume to pass judgment on a film I have not seen. Though, there is no correlation between MMR and Autism (again, read studies previously posted).

I don't believe we are in a Communist dictatorship, either, since that would be an improbability, since true communism can not have a dictator, and most countries that have had dictatorships have been fascist. Since communism and fascism are polar opposites, can't normally happen.

We DO have freedom of speech. If not, someone should be breaking down your door, drag you in the street, and shooting you in front of your neighbors to set an example (This type of stuff happened in Russia in the 80's).

As far as the movie? I personally think it is propaganda to increase ticket sales. It has been done before (Buy my book "7 ways to get a loan that the banks don't want you to know").

Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
One doesn't need to "see the film"...." . Are you afraid to see something that doesn't necessarily agree with your present ideas?

I dare you to see the film, and then tell us what you think.

It's very unscientific, to pretend that you are a fortune teller, and that you can, in advance, tell us that the film doesn't need to be seen.

I personally will reserve judgment, until I have seen the film. I'm not afraid to do this. Why are you afraid?

I already posted that I am interested in seeing the film, guess you missed it.

Oh good, so until you see the film and make a judgement you are open to all vaccines. That's good to know. Post again after you see it.

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