The Day Nursing Student Apathy Got to Me

I love nursing students! I love their enthusiasm and nervous excitement when they walk into the emergency department for their specialty experience day. Most students are afraid that the nursing staff will avoid them. Every once in a while, though, it's the other way around and the staff nurse is the one who is being avoided. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

When I first started in our emergency department night shift, I noticed that the 2-3 students were largely ignored for the first half hour or so during shift change. They stood nervously by the desks, repeatedly adjusting their coats and book bags with a look of "please tell me what to do!" on their faces.

I looked around at the day shift staff, busily getting report on the sick, critical, violent, or the repeat pts that they will be taking over on, so busy that having to explain things to students was just not possible at that moment.

So I took over and made a whole structure for them which was heartily accepted by my coworkers. On student days, I try to wrap things up early and give a quick orientation. I give a few tips on NCLEX, on how to stay cool in crazy situations, and what to expect for the day, and what to do when an ambulance arrives with a pt. Then I pair people up with the most patient, coolest and toughest 20+ year vets and go home. I usually get told how the students did when I get back to work that night. It's almost always great news. The evening students are always paired with me.

When it hits the fan at the wrong moment, I still have been able to get them in on mega-codes, help ortho MDs reset bones, start CPR, explain the critical nature of XYZ patient, and why that walking/talking pt will be sent to the ICU. Even with varying degrees of receptiveness, students have almost always been amazingly well mannered and willing to dig in. Except once.

One day last semester, a pair of students came down and I noticed increasing amounts of boredom/irritation as I went through my (now well practiced and tailored) orientation when I was interrupted in my talk about megacodes.

"I don't want to see that, and I definitely don't want to DO that. Just tell me where to stand while they do whatever they have to do and I'll wait until it's all over," she said dismissively.

I was floored. I asked her if she had intention to work as a nurse. She answered that she did, but not in any situation where she would have to do anything dirty or see blood. In fact, she planned to get her NP as soon as possible so she could just write orders and walk away. Her friend agreed.

When I asked her why she was in the E.R. rotation, she said that it was only because she had been assigned to it. I could only think about the other students who would have loved to be there and what a waste of everyone's time it was for her to have even been there at all. I couldn't help but think of what a waste of time it was for me to have just spent the last 20 minutes telling them anything at all since it had clearly been thrown away before I even spoke.

To tell you the truth, I was completely upset. I remained upset for almost a week. I spoke to my coworkers who said that many times they will avoid having a student because of that very attitude. I ended up going home and thinking that I didn't know if all students secretly felt that way. If so, why was I putting so much effort into them?

Just before the winter break, I spoke to an instructor and asked her opinion. She gave me great news. It was this, "Just send them back to their instructors and pop an email to the school."

Huh. So with the semester ending, I dug back into work and stopped thinking about it.

This semester the students started to arrive again. I watched them stand a fidget for a moment before my instincts took over and I started to cautiously orient them. My fears were immediately dissolved when one asked "Do you think we might get to do CPR?"

Thank God for the kind of students I look forward to seeing in my department.

Specializes in Psychiatry, Oncology.

Wish I could be there instead of these two! But I just started so most we would be able to do in ER right now is watch:)

How great of you to be such a tremendous mentor to students! Hats off!

Students like that ruin it for the rest of us. I think the email to the school is deserved. Most of the time during rotations we just try to stay out of the way because we know it's our instructor's job - not the nurses - to deal with us. On the occasions when nurses do reach out and explain things or delegate things we can do with our instructor, it changes the experience immensely. The majority of students will appreciate and remember those opportunities for a long time to come.

What I would give for a preceptor like you. I am currently 7 months away from graduating and have had some excellent hands on preceptors and those that would rather not have any students whatsoever. I have to tell you I would love to have rotated through an ER as a student, and have gotten a chance to get into the thick of things while an experienced nurse tells me how things are done. While some students are there just to get through and go, I am there to learn. I'll be on my own soon enough and need to learn the ins and outs before I work in the nursing field, so please teach your students well. Not all students are like the ones you first experienced. (she sounded like a spoiled brat anyway in on her parents dime.)

Specializes in Med-Surg, Emergency, CEN.

Thank you all so much. I think it's easy for students to think that everyone has it out for them. I'd like to think that most of us don't.

Thanks for sharing this. It makes me more excited about the day I actually get to do clinicals, knowing that there are nurses like you who are willing to help :-)

I wish I had an instructor that wanted to actually show me how to be hands on and not just watch.

That's aggrevating, I can see why you would be upset for awhile. I try to help and teach the students, but they must understand that no matter what level of nursing you acheive , you must have experience and knowledge , and in Nursing , that involves blood.

Specializes in ER, ICU, Education.

Yes, please do send them back to their instructor. As an instructor, my favorite students are hard-working and willing to learn and try anything within their scope of practice. I will do anything in my power to help them learn.

My second favorite type of student would be the lazy, "I'm above that" students. They taste like chicken. Instructors do indeed like to eat their young, but only the lazy ones, and only after we marinate them in probation contracts and season them with humility. The really tough ones must be slow-roasted.

I cannot imagine having had the audacity to speak so disrespectfully to my preceptor when I was in nursing school. Having been an ER nurse since graduating in 2011, and having just started an NP program myself, I can attest that these are the worst kind of students. I'd be very interested to see how they plan to make it to NP school without jumping on every available opportunity to learn in the interim. Instilling a sense of humility into these "I'm above that" students as AOx1 points out is a very satisfying activity. Nursing isn't a club that allows mental weakness into the fold, and I'm very thankful that nursing schools do an excellent job of weeding out the lazy. I precepted a student onnce that thought it would be a good idea to work on assignments from other classes instead of learning anything that day, and then eat lunch at the ER nurses station in full view of patients and their families (here's a pointer.... don't do that). Not only did he get a poor evaluation at the end of the day both verbally and on paper (you should have seen this boy's face), his instructor got the full assessment of the student's character in an email. This lucky student had the wonderful privilege of probation and repeating the clinical. To the students who want to learn and be the best the can be, I'll do whatever I can to help you because I've been there in pretty recent memory. To the students who wont accept help and who's intent is to give minimal effort, I'll break you before the end of the day :).

Please don't ever change! I would have loved to take their place! Besides, nurses like you "bring up" a new batch of great nurses!

Specializes in Pediatrics Telemetry CCU ICU.

I don't know about anyone else, but put on the shoes of being one of these NP's patients. I highly respect all Dr.s and nurses who have "stories to tell" about when they were on "the front lines." I don't want ANYTHING to do with going to an office and having someone with just book knowledge handing me a script or going to them with a problem that could send me to an ER and they would not even recogize it as an emergent situation.

Specializes in Hospice.

Opportunity missed, too bad for them! Another student and I jumped at the opportunity last week to spend the last hour of our clinical day in the ER. It was a quiet day and we didn't do much, but we were included in what few opportunities there were that hour and I can't wait to go back. There is a wound care nurse who comes to our medsurg unit and always takes the time to teach as many of us that can fit in the room. I love these learning opportunities. And I can honestly say that my entire clinical group is the same. We would definitely appreciate you!