The Circumcision Discussion

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I know this can be a HUGE debate, and I'm not looking to start any arguments. I was just wondering as you are OB nurses. I'm expecting a boy in July and not sure if we should circ. or not. My husband says yes, it's better medically in the long run. My gpa who just turned 70 had to have a circ. due to endless complications lately.

As nurses in this area, is the medication that they use good? And what are some questions to ask my Dr. about it. I already know that my hospital i'll be at uses a med. when they perform it, I"m just wondering what you all think.

Thanks

Jen :)

I equate the popularity of ED drugs with not only mass media but circumcision itself. Research has shown that circumcised males report a significantly higher proportion of ED than do intact males. If we were to stop routinely circumcising our children, we would have much less of a need for ED drugs.

sure wish that were true- hoping the ideology of it comes soon and hubby realizes he needsto get ED so i can rest - same goes for all the elderly that get little woodies when attempting cares - gads how can one get a woddie knowing the chore to come is a cath?? i swear i do not get it - but i see it all the time. should be a class in nursing school - " how to NOT be overly gentle for fear of hurting the member - it wont break "so they dont get stiff LOL just an opinion of mine lolol.

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I also believe circumcision is quite brutal -forced male genital mutilation. It's barbaric to me. If the question is of HIV prevention, than wait until the infant becomes of age (an adult) to make the decision if he wants his member partially removed. I haven't heard yet of any report of infants catching HIV through sexual intercourse. It's their body, let them make their own choice!

I *REALLY* hesitated to even post on this, #1 it's my first post on this board, #2 I have had this heated discussion on many other boards. I don't really want to get into the right and wrongs of it all again and #3 it's a bit off the OT.

I can completely understand why some people are against circumcision, but what really gripes my butt is that all of the anti circ's out there can preach on and on about how brutal and barbaric is it..don't cut your son's member etc etc...and yet you would never hear me telling you that you should have your son circ'd...I honestly don't care that much about what you do with your son's member. It would also be refreshing if some of you actually admitted to the problems that CAN and DO arrise from not having babies circumsized. I am assuming since you all went and found links backing up your thoughts, you can find ones on what I am referring to also.;)

Now for my own personal experience, I have two sons. Both are circumsized and poke fun if you will, but my main reason for this was because my husband was also circumsized. There were other reasons backing our decision, but that was the main one. With my first son, my OB(he was old school) did his circumcision in the hospital when he was a day old. He used a local and my son barely cried (I know this because my husband was with him) and he was brought back to me asleep and we never had any interruptions in breast feeding, no screaming during diaper changes etc etc. When my second son was born, I had a different OB that did not do circ's...I had the option of having the pediatrician on staff do it, but I decided to wait and take him to our regular pediatrician a couple days later. He used the plastibell (sp?) and I would recommend this method over the old way..... baby never cried..he was more irritated about being held down than anything....again..no problems with feeding, no screaming during diaper changes and it healed even faster than my first son's did. If we have another child and it happens to be a boy..I will have that child circumsized also. I guess as parents we're all just trying to do what we think is best for our child...and everything that I read and researched lead me to believe that circumcision was the right choice for us. I'm a loving mother of three, there is not a barbaric bone in my body and I really resent anyone insinuating such a thing. It's not like we're all just saying....hey, let's cut off some of my child's skin just to watch him bleed and hear him scream :nono: We're just as loving and caring about our children as you are with yours....step off your soap boxes!

On another note....I have asked my husband about this before and he always says he is happy his mom chose to circumsize him as a baby. We know of a couple men that had to have circumcisions later in life that found it extremely painful and wished that it had been done when they were babies. I guess what I am saying is that for every man you say is upset that he was circ'd, there is probably another that is thankful he was.

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Now for my own personal experience, I have two sons. Both are circumsized and poke fun if you will, but my main reason for this was because my husband was also circumsized. There were other reasons backing our decision, but that was the main one.

That is the weakest "reason" for circumcision. If your husband has lost a leg in war or accident, would you also remove your childrens legs so they'd look the same?

BWAAAAAH, HAAAAH, HAAAAAH!!!!!

Why would we be arguing FOR circumcision? In the United States, circumcision is considered "normal". If one was to be pro circumcision, nothing needs to be said. It's normal.

OK, I'll leave you be. Oh, welcome to the board!;)

That is the weakest "reason" for circumcision. If your husband has lost a leg in war or accident, would you also remove your childrens legs so they'd look the same?

And that's the weakest argument against. It's amazing that you actually believe there's a comparison between a circ and a loss of a limb. That's right up there with the great "foreskin industrial complex" brought up elsewhere in this thread.

The reason that males are circumcised within the USA is because the population is culturally conditioned to have their males circumcised.

It's as simple as that.

The reason that males are circumcised within the USA is because the population is culturally conditioned to have their males circumcised.

It's as simple as that.

You are exactly right. I've told this to my boys, who were horrified that I had even considered NOT getting them circ'd.

If all the boys they went to school with had intact foreskins and they did not, they would probably be mad at their DAD. ;)

I showed the article on circ's and HIV to the doc who does circ's w/o anesthesia. He doesn't believe it. Funny, he thinks circ's are surgery w/o informed consent, doesn't think we should be doing them BUT will do it if the parents want and does it WITHOUT PAIN RELIEF.

That is just so . . . . . weird.

steph

In South Africa it is taught by traditional healers, that sexual intercourse with a minor 'vigin female' will transmit the disease from an adult male to the child and so rape is common.

Also many traditional circumcisions take place, leaving young males completely deformed for life, some just bleed to dealth, and others are so septic genitals have been known to rot off.

Circumcision roll on, in Africa!

Finally..."proof" that God made a mistake!

Well, no, actually God doesn't make mistakes.

And even though you disrespected Him like this, He still loves you.

;)

But as to the circ, WE are the ones who "make the mistake".

God intended for us to have only one sexual partner, so if we had followed His will for our lives, this issue would be moot.

But, alas............. :(

I'm very thankful I STILL live in a country where we can make informed CHOICES about our health, and the health of the children we are RESPONSIBLE for. (albeit, it's hard to say how much longer we will enjoy such freedom, what with so many supporting the idea that the "G"overnment knows best, and our rights slowly being eroded with politically correct insanity rampant.)

To circ or not to circ....that is the question lol

Edited out double post, sorry

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_he_me/aids_circumcision;_ylt=AqxyqaUoyWJNngKD1epBWPJa24cA

23 Feb 2007:

"LONDON - Scientists say conclusive data shows there is no question circumcision reduces men's chances of catching HIV by up to 60 percent-a finding experts are hailing as a major breakthrough in the fight against AIDS. The question now is how to put that fact to work to combat AIDS across Africa."

~faith,

Timothy.

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