Terrible visitors - Unsafe situation

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We had an incident on my unit a few nights ago where the visitors of a patient were demanding everything under the sun and more. The family demanded a private room. Our entire hospital has semi-priavate or 3 bed room - No privates. The family had NUMEROUS visitors (up to 10) for this patient who was in the first bed. Although I was not caring for patient in question, I was assigned the patient in the second bed - I literally had to force my way past big heavy sweaty bodies to get to my patient. No respect at all - excuse me sir - Nothing! The family was overbearing and middle eastern - giving me and everyone else dirty looks and invading personal boundries.

Cut to an hour or so later. I am charting in the nurse station. Our charge nurse is being verbally berated by 5 or 6 of these individual - Complaining about everything. "She (patient) is getting terrible medical care - Noboby know how to do a job - You guy will kill her - yada yada yada". At this point I saw the situation escalating and I paged security to our unit along with the house supervisor. Long storu short, we had to play musical beds - transfer some patients into other rooms so that these idiots could have a private room.

When I told my charge nurse that it was I who had paged the house supervisor and the security department, she blamed me for "Dramatizing" the situation and I had over-reacted. I am sorry people. I have worked in facilities where situations have escalated VERY QUICKLY into physical violence. Better to be safe than sorry - Most often a show of force is all people need to realize they need to cut the crap. I have your back - I would HOPE they would have my back if the tables were turned. What am I missing here?

Specializes in LPN, Peds, Public Health.

Hmmm... I took it more as she felt more threatened because they were Middle Eastern...

Specializes in CVICU.
I can see your point about things escalating, however, your charge nurse is the charge nurse for good reasons, i.e experience and knowledge. I would think that this is not the first time she had been in a situation like this...,just saying.

I would also hope that if you were the nurse taking care of this patient that your charge nurse would absolutely have your back.

I have to disagree with this statement. I was placed in the charge nurse role (it rotates at my hospital) before I had even hit my 1 year mark as a nurse. This situation absolutely warranted the involvement of security and nursing supervisor. When you have 5 to 6 family members in a heated discussion with one nurse (charge or otherwise), more hospital representation needed to be involved beyond the floor level.

What I also find surprising in this situation is the number of visitors in the room. My hospital does not allow more than 2 visitors at a time in a semi-private room for reasons such as privacy and courtesy to the other patient as well as basic access to the other patient. Can you imagine if the patient in the other bed had gone into respiratory distress??? And, by the way, I don't work on an ICU or step-down unit. I work on a surgical floor.

i dont think "middle eastern" had to with anything. It could have been an african/european/caucasian family and they still should have been booted.

Specializes in LPN, Peds, Public Health.

Thats the point Im trying to make, without any other reference in the post it made me wonder why exactly their ethnicity was being pointed out... If she had said "the family was middle eastern and did not speak/understand English that well" or something to that affect, then I would have assumed otherwise, but the poster just simply stated that the family was Middle Eastern, therefore, causing me to assume that was part of why she felt so uneasy about them....

But then again... we all know that saying about assuming!! I don't know what the poster meant when she said it, but was curious... thats why I asked.

Specializes in Neuroscience/Neuro-surgery/Med-Surgical/.

Sounds like that unit needs to revise the "visitor policy" to state that only 2 people to visit per patient, when its a semi-private room. For safety and for privacy of the other patients in the room.

I don't believe the OP was discriminating against Middle-Eastern people (when she mentioned it), in my experience I have seen large groups of people visiting the patient at one time. Luckily our hospital has private rooms, so only rarely is it ever a problem. Nite time policy: only 1 visitor can stay overnite with patient.

Specializes in Med/Surg.
I think she was pointing out that they were Middle Eastern because they might not have understood why the room wasn't private and that may have been a factor in why they had so many people in the room. Middle Easterners tend to have large families and they are usually fairly close. Just a thought.

Hmmm... I took it more as she felt more threatened because they were Middle Eastern...

Thats the point Im trying to make, without any other reference in the post it made me wonder why exactly their ethnicity was being pointed out... If she had said "the family was middle eastern and did not speak/understand English that well" or something to that affect, then I would have assumed otherwise, but the poster just simply stated that the family was Middle Eastern, therefore, causing me to assume that was part of why she felt so uneasy about them....

But then again... we all know that saying about assuming!! I don't know what the poster meant when she said it, but was curious... thats why I asked.

OP is a "he".

Specializes in LPN, Peds, Public Health.
OP is a "he".

My apologies...

Specializes in ER, ICU, PICU, ONC, FLIGHT.

I agree that safety was an issue and things needed to be done, but there is a chain of command. Maybe the better route would have been to discuss the situation earlier with the charge nurse first and talk about a plan of action. If that didn't happen or things worsened, then call the house supervisor on your own.

Specializes in Hospice, corrections, psychiatry, rehab, LTC.

I would have done the same thing.

I took the Middle Eastern thing to be cultural, i.e. invading personal boundaries.

However, I knew someone on here would be calling you a racist as soon as I read it.

Specializes in LPN, Peds, Public Health.
I took the Middle Eastern thing to be cultural, i.e. invading personal boundaries.

However, I knew someone on here would be calling you a racist as soon as I read it.

Im sure you are referring to me, but I cant recall calling anyone racist. How you got that I was even saying that from the question I asked is beyond me.

Im sure you are referring to me, but I cant recall calling anyone racist. How you got that I was even saying that from the question I asked is beyond me.

i, too, took your question in a negative light......

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