Published Apr 7, 2009
Lorie P.
755 Posts
with out going into details, i was terminated from my position as a pdn yesterday due to a very stupid and dumb thing on my part.
at first i was very upset, but now i am still upset but feeling better, i was getting so burned out after 5 yrs of nursing and being responsible for "other peoples" lives. i have also been fighting the clinical depression that i have had off and on since my first open heart surgery.
i am stressed that i no longer have a job or insurance and no income. but so relieved that i am not responsible for any one else's life, that i don't constantly have to make sure that " everything" i do is charted, that i have to pretend that i enjoy my job, that i really enjoy taking care of some one else, when all i really want to do is take care of me and my family!
i go back to my pcp on the 21st due to he changed some of my meds 5 days before the incident happened and that may have been on factor that made me do what i did.
i am not asking or looking for excuses, i took full responsiblity to my actionts, admitted what i did was wrong. was open and honest with it when i had to go into the office to sign my termination papers. will probably be reviewed and investigated by the bon, but i am not letting that really worry me. i am taking care of me for a change and putting my health and instrest first!
my dear husband is upset, don't blame him, cause of all the hard work i did to get my licenses, but honestly it's no big deal to me. this could be because the new antidpressants are helping me with my state of emotional well-being!
i just feel really bad for my pt ( it was anything with her, it was paperwork issues), but her dad said that he understood and didn't think any less of me what so ever.
anyways thanks so much for allowing me to vent, express and share my feelings over this! you guys at all nurse's are awesome and understand ( some do or do not) what i am going through and i really appreciate it!
now i am just going to focus on my mental state of mind and my family for the next couple of weeks!
hikernurse
1,302 Posts
Good for you for taking responsibility for yourself. That can be a hard thing to do. Take a good break and enjoy your family. I'm sure sorry about your struggle with depression. That's tough to overcome, but it sounds like you're taking all the right steps. I hope things start looking up for you soon :).
{{{{{Lorie}}}}}
good for you for taking responsibility for yourself. that can be a hard thing to do. take a good break and enjoy your family. i'm sure sorry about your struggle with depression. that's tough to overcome, but it sounds like you're taking all the right steps. i hope things start looking up for you soon :).{{{{{lorie}}}}}
{{{{{lorie}}}}}
thanks so much! it is nice to know someone understands. things are pretty tense at home today. but the good comes with the bad.
SuesquatchRN, BSN, RN
10,263 Posts
Do you know, heart surgery increases the likelihood of depression. If you're already down it isn't a surprise you're feeling worse.
What happened, though?
yeap know all about the heart disease/depression issues, have seen a doc for it several times over the last 10 yrs. just a couple of weeks ago could feel myself going down the dark tunnel again. new the meds weren't working. saw the doc on 3-31-09, got meds changed and was on cloud'9'. came 4-2 and 4-3 couldn't work. so like a blooming idiot. i signed off on papers that should never have been signed to begin with, faxed them in, the whole time knowing yet, not facing reality ,it was very wrong. long story short i was terminated for falsyfing paperwork. i submitted paper work and notes for days that i did not work, saying that i did work. ( mind you i have seen where a super's visit was not done,yet they had the client back-date saying that the visit was done).
not pointing fingures, admitted i was wrong and should have known better, but with the stress of being the only full time working family member, battling depression, worring about insurance, bills and my mental state, i wasn't really thinking through the after effects of my actions. my whole thinking has been off and i am under the care of a doc. explained all this in the termination meeting and the rn was very understanding and will even give me a recommendation when i get ready to return to work. she went out of her way to help me keep my job, but was unable and i completely understand. she knew this was not me and this was the very first time i have ever done anything wrong and she couldn't understand why it happened.
my rn superivors said that with her experience with the bon, i will probably get maybe suspended, have to go to counseling, that she has seen other nurses do worse things and have to go to treatment/counseling did fine with that.
oh, well i know what i did was unprofessional, put my client, my employer at risk as well as myself, plus broke the level of trust of all involved.
i am not asking for anything not to be done by the bon, i will accept what ever comes my way and deal with it then.
my most important thing right now, is my health, my family and i am getting the medical help i need.
so that is it in a nut-shell. hind sight is 20/20, was asked why didn't i think of calling to get employee assistance for mental help. well first of all, who especially a clinically depressed person thinks of those things? no excuse, i was wrong and that is that, time to move on.
thanks for listening cyber-friends~
{{{Lorie}}}
I know your health has been a problem for you for awhile, and then the Excelsior/Georgia nonsense happened.
See if you can at least collect unemployment. That will ease it somewhat.
caliotter3
38,333 Posts
I am so sorry to hear that this has happened to you. Not to make light of it, but it doesn't seem quite appropriate when one considers all the people who routinely take such actions and are supported in their behavior. At one agency where I worked, it was routine for many employees and management took a 'do not care' attitude. I totally understand how being in a mental and physical fog contributed to your poor judgement. Take care of yourself. Hoping this resolves and you are able to find new employment when you are feeling better and ready to go back to work. Best wishes.
{{{lorie}}}i know your health has been a problem for you for awhile, and then the excelsior/georgia nonsense happened.see if you can at least collect unemployment. that will ease it somewhat.
i know your health has been a problem for you for awhile, and then the excelsior/georgia nonsense happened.
see if you can at least collect unemployment. that will ease it somewhat.
thanks so much sue, i am taking it easy for awhile. please see my pm to you.
i am so sorry to hear that this has happened to you. not to make light of it, but it doesn't seem quite appropriate when one considers all the people who routinely take such actions and are supported in their behavior. at one agency where i worked, it was routine for many employees and management took a 'do not care' attitude. i totally understand how being in a mental and physical fog contributed to your poor judgement. trying to lift that fog, just taking it one day at a time. take care of yourself. hoping this resolves and you are able to find new employment when you are feeling better and ready to go back to work. best wishes.thanks so much, alteast i am taking the right steps , admitting i was wrong and taking the right steps to correct it all.i've been searching the gabon and so far not found anything that i could do differently. will have to wait and see what happens. i also have a very good friend that is an attorney and will be talking to him this week. he handles medical, ethical issues.again thanks to all!
take care of yourself. hoping this resolves and you are able to find new employment when you are feeling better and ready to go back to work. best wishes.
thanks so much, alteast i am taking the right steps , admitting i was wrong and taking the right steps to correct it all.
i've been searching the gabon and so far not found anything that i could do differently. will have to wait and see what happens. i also have a very good friend that is an attorney and will be talking to him this week. he handles medical, ethical issues.
again thanks to all!
Could you possibly talk to your employers and convince them to not report your behavior? Really, the termination should be more than enough punishment, knowing that your paycheck is so badly needed in your family. The only time I know of someone getting in trouble for this infraction, was an instance where the person had another job before they fired her. I really feel badly for you because you seem to be such a caring nurse and not the other type. Please get some rest and think about approaching your employer again. Take care.
could you possibly talk to your employers and convince them to not report your behavior? really, the termination should be more than enough punishment, knowing that your paycheck is so badly needed in your family. the only time i know of someone getting in trouble for this infraction, was an instance where the person had another job before they fired her. i really feel badly for you because you seem to be such a caring nurse and not the other type. please get some rest and think about approaching your employer again. take care.
if it were left up to the rn, i really don't think they would report it. but the health care recruiter a very young person was all up set cause what i did was insurance fraud so she says.
believe me, i did my very best to explain what had happend and was honest with everything up front.
the rn supervisor said that "no one would here about it from her' that i could call her if i needed to. so i may do that after much needed rest. it was funny that the recruiter did say, as far as i am concerned it never happened" so i am not sure what she meant.
so i am not really sure if she is going to report it or not. she also said she didn't know much about the bon, so i am thinking that the rn may have spoke to her after i left.
i did recieve a call fromthe office on my cell phone today, no voice mail was left and i really wasn't up to returning the call. i am sure i will call them tomorrow and see what is up.
anyways, thanks caliotter for all the great advice and being here for me!
I think I remember what company you are working for. The recruiter is not the one to be making this call. The healthcare recruiters are nothing more than glorified staffing coordinators who have prospective employees fill out the initial paperwork when they walk in the door. The Accounts Manager/General Manager and DOCS are the people who handle the important business. For that matter, the Accounts Manager/General Manager would leave this matter to the Director of Clinical Services to take care of. It is the DOCS that should be handling anything dealing with the Board and/or the status of your license. She is the person you need to be on the same sheet of music with. I hope by what was said that someone is being reasonable about this. If it were up to me, I would require you to get yourself together medically, suspend you for a period of time, then bring you back under supervision. But that is me. I don't consider myself to be extreme one way or the other when it comes to management. I sure hope this goes better for you tomorrow.