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Specializes in School Nursing.

ever notice how all teachers are frickin nurse's ?? :idea:

praiser :redbeathe

Specializes in School Nurse, Maternal Newborn.
ever notice how all teachers are frickin nurse's ?? :idea:

praiser :redbeathe

i am fortunate in that in my school, i don't have that problem. my problem is our aides, and teaching assistants! they have minimal knowledge, but they already know before they send/bring a child to my office exactly what answer i am to give. many will argue, as well, not understanding that i may not only have nursing knowledge, (33 years worth) i am also privy to other information regarding children that they may not be aware of. they seem to think i just make decisions based upon a whim, and not evidence/assessment/prior knowledge of a childs health. i often even have knowledge of what the parents work situation may be, and this may even factor in, if a child is not feverish or needing further medical attention. since our aides can just pick up the phone and not come to work, they don't understand that not everyone has that luxury....

i have even let them know that i do not always expect to be correct in my assessments- but that i will be correct a lot more often than they will be! (they don't seem to like that, go figure!):devil:

my husband, who works for the same district, says that everyone wants to be able to make the decisions, but if you offer them the responsibility for the outcomes, they will back off immediately. i may take this tack if i am feeling bullied to send a child home.

can you tell that this is one of my pet peeves?

Specializes in School Nursing.
i am fortunate in that in my school, i don't have that problem. my problem is our aides, and teaching assistants! they have minimal knowledge, but they already know before they send/bring a child to my office exactly what answer i am to give. many will argue, as well, not understanding that i may not only have nursing knowledge, (33 years worth) i am also privy to other information regarding children that they may not be aware of. they seem to think i just make decisions based upon a whim, and not evidence/assessment/prior knowledge of a childs health. i often even have knowledge of what the parents work situation may be, and this may even factor in, if a child is not feverish or needing further medical attention. since our aides can just pick up the phone and not come to work, they don't understand that not everyone has that luxury....

i have even let them know that i do not always expect to be correct in my assessments- but that i will be correct a lot more often than they will be! (they don't seem to like that, go figure!):devil:

my husband, who works for the same district, says that everyone wants to be able to make the decisions, but if you offer them the responsibility for the outcomes, they will back off immediately. i may take this tack if i am feeling bullied to send a child home.

can you tell that this is one of my pet peeves?

thank you artistyc ! as you can tell, i had a trying day with a few certain teacher's who know my job better than i do. i appreciate your input. today will be a better day ! sending you a big hug today ! :)

praiser :redbeathe

Specializes in School Nursing.

Oh, I definitely feel for you, Praiser. My school is FULL of wanna-be nurses. The only one I do not have trouble with is the one who used to be an actual RN and went into teaching!

My latest saga is a special ed student who is mostly non-verbal, who has discovered that when he indicates that his head hurts, he gets to leave the classroom and come to my office. The teacher and I agree that it is a learned behavior, but one of the assistants insists there is something wrong with him. I did a complete head to toe on this kid, and nothing is abnormal! Sure, he might have a headache, but I don't send kids home for just a minor headache, special ed or not! I really think they just don't want to deal with him!

I have said it before that I would really like to waltz into their classroom and start giving my strongly worded opinions on their teaching and classroom management skills. Turnabout is fair play!

Specializes in School Nursing.
oh, i definitely feel for you, praiser. my school is full of wanna-be nurses. the only one i do not have trouble with is the one who used to be an actual rn and went into teaching!

my latest saga is a special ed student who is mostly non-verbal, who has discovered that when he indicates that his head hurts, he gets to leave the classroom and come to my office. the teacher and i agree that it is a learned behavior, but one of the assistants insists there is something wrong with him. i did a complete head to toe on this kid, and nothing is abnormal! sure, he might have a headache, but i don't send kids home for just a minor headache, special ed or not! i really think they just don't want to deal with him!

i have said it before that i would really like to waltz into their classroom and start giving my strongly worded opinions on their teaching and classroom management skills. turnabout is fair play!

thanks purple.....you always have my back ! have a great weekend ! :yeah:

praiser :redbeathe

Specializes in School Nursing, Ambulatory Care, etc..

I have said it before that I would really like to waltz into their classroom and start giving my strongly worded opinions on their teaching and classroom management skills. Turnabout is fair play!

Amen, sista!

The other thing I'd like to do is to run to the breakroom and tell the secretary "The phone is ringing and there's no one up there to answer it!"

Specializes in School Nursing.

^^^ Now THAT just made my weekend! Totally visualized the look on the secretary's face if I were to do that, LOL!

What gets me is that mine are trained to do basic first aid/illness in my absence (I never get subs), but yet they will still want to drag me out of lunch for a simple nosebleed. But if you interrupt a teacher on their lunch or their sacred planning period - - watch out!

Specializes in school nursing.

By this time of the year, my patience starts to wear thin and these "nurses" tend to drive me even more nuts than usual! I have posted this before but I like to say "everybody is a medical expert UNTIL they see bodily fluids and then they know nothing." They won't touch that with a ten foot pole because "they are not the medical prfessional, the nurse is!"

I once wrote this note to a math teacher a few years ago when I just couldn't take it anymore! "__________does not meet any evidence based criteria to be excluded from school. However, I looked at his math grade and I do recommend some extra tutoring from you." :yeah::yeah:Teachy got the point and did not second guess me again!

Specializes in School Nursing.
"__________does not meet any evidence based criteria to be excluded from school.

I had to tell you that I stole this line and used it today! Teacher had a student sent home last week for pink eye, so I guess hysteria set in. Today she wanted me to send home a student who c/o eye pain...no redness or discharge. I send a note stating the above after she sent him to me for the 2nd time. Worked like a charm, I have not seen him again today! Thanks for the great tip!

Specializes in school nursing.

Glad to help Purple Scrubs. I like to remind my staff that I do not base my decision on school exclusion by pulling stuff out of my, well you know!! I also like to make copies of policies and procedures and info from the health department and send it back to them!

Specializes in med-surg, psych, ER, school nurse-CRNP.

I love these people. Praise be I don't have to deal with them anymore.

Had one old battleaxe send a wailing K student to me 5 TIMES! He c/o earache, I called Mama X4, no fever, no nothing, Mama flat-out refused to come for him, and so back to class he went, per her.

5th time rolled around and teach (who KNEW what Mama had said) plopped him on my couch and demanded "He goes home".

My response? I handed her the phone and said, "Then YOU call. She's already told me she's not coming, that he is to stay here. I'm not getting my head bitten off again just because you don't want to handle a crying child."

She called Mama, Mama gave her what-for, Mama gave the child what-for (seems this had been going on a while in the absence of any medical finding), and everyone went back to where they belonged.

Once I grew a spine, the petty bs stopped.

Love the tutoring memo, though, wish I had thought of that!

Specializes in OB/GYN, Peds, School Nurse, DD.

I had to tell a teacher yesterday that No, I would not call this child's mother because he smells bad. First of all, I couldn't smell anything. The teacher swore he was making kids gag. She wanted me to undress him right there and check for poo! :eek: Are you fricking kidding me?? NOOOOO...I did note that his nails were long and dirty and I'm guessing that he probably doesn't change his underwear every day. Typical 1st grader. But being a stinky boy does not call for nursing intervention. I told her if it kept bothering her, she needs to take it up with the boy's mother. Of course, she doesn't want to do that--she wants ME to do that. Sorry, hun. Not going to happen. Unless I see that there is suspicion of illness or neglect I'm staying out of that. (Have you ever had to call a parent and them them their kid stinks? It's not pretty.)

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