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I know I’m a little out of the topic of discussion or category entirely, but please read…I have about 200 pages of evidence(my explanations as well as course requirements, student handbook policies) and several audio recordings as well as several agreeable students from multiple semesters and even countless RN's who vouch for the schools unethical decisions and favoritism tendencies.

To make it short and to the point, I had been aware the previous semesters of the unorganized and unfair dealings that the schools teachers use. In saying that come the last semester myself and others were prepared by secretly recording many of the conversations between the teachers and ourselves if/when came the time to justify the truth with hard evidence...

Note: I know whoever is reading this is probably thinking this guy is just mad because he failed but if you can honestly read this with an open mind and open heart then I would be grateful - if only for just taking the time to read it...but also any helpful advice or contacts that could help...thanks...

Real quick myself and many others are accusing some(not all) of the teachers of favoritism, grade manipulation, misguidance on many things(personal advising meetings where they would knowingly misguide on testing focal points, not keep their word about teachings and advice given)…………We have audio recordings of these teachers contradicting their own teachings as well as the other teachers, our assigned textbooks and what we have been taught during our duration in nursing school, as well as the national standard or rule. When approaching some of these teachers in a private meeting/setting and confronted them about possible mistakes they may have made or possibly were unaware that they said/taught was incorrect(all this in a professional manner and tone) some of these teachers would get very defensive and harp on the fact that I am just a student and they have been an RN for X amount of years and that they were correct in what they taught or advised...all without any explanation or reasoning behind any of it...……..at the time during class they would always stress that if what they say was different from that of the book, then always go with the books info because that is where our test questions would come from......which would in-turn lead to us trying to save our grades as students by wanting explanations after the exams to what their own made up personal experience/opinion test questions would come from and then again they usually never had explanations, just jump on the defensive again...…...later I found out that the students who they seemed to favor would privately meet with them and some students claimed to get 10 or 15 questions (out of 45-65 questions) given back to them secretly. I know this is true, because at mid-term I knew who was passing and who was failing, and would talk to students and at the end some would be 30 plus points ahead of where their point totals should be.

We have audio of them admitting to helping some students with exact same situations and then letting others fail, all by personal opinions of the individual.

I myself worked full time as a tech in the hospital at nights and school 5 days a week from 8-5pm. I literally learned to live and function off 3 to 4 hours of sleep per night...….now this was my less than ideal situation, and I am not blaming any of this on that, but it gives insight into how much effort and stress that went into this last semester. The teachers Im guessing got a negative view of me simply on the fact that I always looked tired and probably uninterested in their lectures......in my defense I was always recording the lectures to go back over them later and take my own better notes, and the other reason was because I could not focus in the class room with 100 plus students, being sleep deprived and easily distracted by sounds and talking etc......that is the only reason I gave to get on their bad side, because I have always made sure that I handle myself in a professional and friendly manner.

ALMOST DONE: 2 days before graduation, I was told that they were not going to allow me to makeup a presentation that I overslept for, that was worth a large percent of our grade in peds...…...on top of that they allowed another student(who was infact in my same group) to not only makeup the same assignment, but redo it, because she would have failed if they did not allow her to make it up. Another student who failed and was going through the grievance process with the school, had many of the same arguments as myself and even got a representative from the NAACP who threatened a lawsuit and later found out that she was cleared without having to do anything. There is literally so so much more evidence and accusations but I am not going to mention it here.

I hired a lawyer to write a letter and investigate, and he found in the handbook that a teacher has the authority to allow/deny any individual student a chance of a makeup assignment that he/she missed or even to retake a test all on the basis of personal choice(basically if they liked them or not, or were feeling good/bad in that exact instance). He told me that even with all this evidence that it would cost a lot to go to court and they even probably have the upper hand being a private school and with their policies to be able to do whatever you want to your students grading wise.

Listen I was cheated out of my degree, career and future as an RN...…….I nearly killed myself for that degree.....now I doubt I can get accepted to any school around here because I failed. The worst part about all of it was that they had me thinking that maybe they were right and this career was just not for me because of some low test scores(granted I was cheated out of points and given incorrect test questions and answers) but it wasn't until the exit hesi exam(a national and untampered with test) that I scored near the best in my entire class and via review highlighted all the areas that we were taught during all of nursing school and my real proof that I knew the info and 150 points higher than our class average score...…..according to statistics it put my chances of passing the NCLEX first time at a greater than 98 %.

If you can help me with anything, attorney, or professional who deals with this sort of thing, contact numbers or similar cases from the past that students fought and won...……...This school (BHCLR) should not be allowed to be teaching students, they have scored lower than 80% for the first time NCLEX pass rating for several years, 69% and then for my graduating class they somehow manipulated the numbers to try and save their accreditation(the AR state board of nursing revealed that they had 216 students take the NCLEX that semester with 170 passing and still only getting 78%...by the way my class only graduated with 70 students....somehow they got the state board to keep them from losing their accreditation and government benefits......please this school should not be enrolling future RN students and then miseducating them for their own personal gain to keep their jobs safe as teachers and administrators and making sure that there will be a % of students to fill the seats for the next semester etc...

Thank you for reading my depressing situation...

Specializes in School Nurse.

Congrats for doing so well on the exit hesi.

Can you not simply take Peds this summer and be done with them and get what you want? Unless you were expelled you should be able to retake the course. I remember a nurse was flunked after the baby's mother took off the ID bracelet to give baby a bath, left and then the student came to give meds with instructor and did not have proper ID to give med. That student repeated class and graduated.

If you can repeat I advise to put your grievances aside put your head down and fly under the radar. If a whole group of you are talking over discrepancies and problems in the hallway than you have been dumped in the agitator category. Remember it is who you associate yourself with that gives you a reputation.

Specializes in Community health.

Your situation is a bummer. It sounds like you worked hard and had a tough time of it.

On the question of oversleeping and missing your project: I have the personality of a Hermione— never late with assignments, always sitting in the front row with my hand up, super annoying. It drives me BATSH*T BANANAS when students miss projects, or show up late to clinical, etc etc and then are just passed on through anyway. I say that knowing that I’m a human, and I could easily make a similar mistake someday. And if I do, honestly, I think it’s fair for me to fail the class. Even if I got a flat tire, or the flu, or my babysitter didn’t show up. Because it is so disrespectful to the kids who were there on time (some of whom probably had similarly difficult situations) if you can just miss a major end-of-year project and get waved on through to the finish line.

None of that actually answers your questions. But I just had to get it off my chest. I’m not saying you won’t be a good nurse; I’m not saying you’re a bad person; I’m not saying you should give up on your dream. You’ll be a great nurse, I’m sure. But that will be after you finish a program by fulfilling the requirements, NOT once a lenient professor just says “Oh ok fine, just let him graduate” after you’ve messed up.

I saw a lot of personality-based inequality in my program, so I totally believe you. Several people I knew were flunked out at the last minute. Most of them transferred their credits to a different school in the same corporation and became LVNs instead of RNs, then started working while doing a LVN to RN ladder program to get their RN license, then finish their BSNs in another program after that.

If what you're saying about professors giving points back on exams to certain students is true then that's a really serious issue. On the other hand sleeping through a presentation is bad and it gives them a reason to fail you. Is this school a standalone school of nursing or part of a bigger University?

This is very similar to an experience I had with my nursing school. One of my teachers was emotionally abusive towards me and my other clinical members agreed. I was constantly defending myself. She told us that we could use nursing diagnoses that were not nanda nursing diagnoses when doing our care plans. When we did case studies she told us her opinion about how to treat someone and took points off if we did not use her way but used to books treatments. She contradicted the book when she told us her opinion. Her tests were exactly from Quizlet which my classmates found out about. I felt like this was cheating and so I did not use these questions and studied the content. But I ended up not passing the class by 0.5 points while they got to go onto the next rotation. I told the director of our program about this and she did not care. Another clinical group cheated during there test and none of them were kicked out. Nursing school is hard sometimes it feels like the teachers don't remember that they were once in our shoes. The director of our program just cared that they had 100% pass rates. They say on that first day that they are supportive but in actuality they are not supportive they are still weeding you out like they did in the pre-reqs.

I went through a similar situation. I fought it. It was a hard fight. I would like to discuss with you what I did. Somewhat new to allnurses.com. Not sure how to contact you directly.

Specializes in Mental Health.
On 4/19/2019 at 8:45 PM, harkness1989 said:

2 days before graduation, I was told that they were not going to allow me to makeup a presentation that I overslept for, that was worth a large percent of our grade in peds

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If someone else overslept and was allowed to make it up then I agree it's unfair, but still... you overslept for a major presentation. You're not going to have any recourse if they decided not to let you make it up.

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