Sugar Addiction?

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Is there really such a thing?

This is something I've wondered about for a long time, mainly because my own behavior with sugar mirrors my experiences with alcohol........I can't seem to grasp the concept of moderation, it's either complete abstinence or total loss of control. When I'm not eating sweets, I feel very healthy and vigorous, but as soon as I fall off the wagon I literally eat every sweet thing I can get my hands on, and feel like death warmed over the next day: headachy, hung over, moody, and tired.

My sister has a theory about my problems being interrelated because alcohol does convert to sugar in the body, and both substances act on me in much the same way (except I don't get combative and roll around in the grass half-naked when I eat candy or cake). I'm not sure she's wrong. But all the research I've done is inconclusive.......seems that there are strong beliefs on both sides of the debate, with very little middle ground. Most of the so-called experts either totally deny the possibility that one can be physically and/or emotionally addicted to sugar, or make blanket statements condemning it as the worst poison on the planet.

What I'm looking for is not only hard science, but peoples' experiences. Are there others out there as messed-up as I am? How do you deal with the cravings, and how do you feel when you indulge? Have you learned to control your consumption of sweet treats, or are you always just one bite away from a binge? And do any of you who are recovering alcoholics like me find that you have a similar problem with sweets?

I'm looking forward to your responses, as I'm trying to face the fact that I need to give up sugar for good and I need to know that if I have to suffer, there's a legitimate reason!:o

Hey Tweety, we are in trouble!!

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10740529&BRD=2212&PAG=461&dept_id=465812&rfi=6

Former chemistry professor can't testify in Doritos suit, court says

The Associated Press January 01, 2004

A man trying to prove that Doritos snack chips are dangerous will have to do it without the help of a retired University of Pittsburgh chemistry professor.

Charles R. Grady filed a product liability suit against Plano, Texas-based Frito-Lay in 1995, claiming his throat was damaged because of the rigid texture and triangular shape of the corn chips.

Grady's attorney wanted to use a study by Charles Beroes, a former professor, who showed how much force and saliva was needed to break up the chips so they could be safely swallowed. Beroes concluded the chips were too hard and sharp to be swallowed safely.

A since-retired Allegheny County judge said Beroes' study "smacked of a high school science fair project" and wouldn't admit it as evidence. The state Superior Court reversed that ruling, but Frito-Lay's attorneys appealed in an effort to keep Beroes' study out of evidence.

The state Supreme Court reversed the Superior Court decision on Wednesday, agreeing with the lower court judge that the study doesn't qualify as evidence.

Information from: Greensburg Tribune-Review

;) steph

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Originally posted by stevielynn

Hey Tweety, we are in trouble!!

;) steph

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We'll just have to show some self-control and actually chew our food. :p

Lisa, that image is just too funny. Reminds me of that old song "Junk Food Junkie". :)

Originally posted by 3rdShiftGuy

Lisa, that image is just too funny. Reminds me of that old song "Junk Food Junkie". :)

I had forgotten about that song! (You must be close to my age to remember that one! You're dating yourself ;) )

Yeah, it must have been written about me. I don't get any of the "great" songs written about me, like the ones professing undying devotion, eternal love, etc. ...aww well, pass the Doritos...those sound good, too! :D

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Originally posted by 3rdShiftGuy

Lisa, that image is just too funny. Reminds me of that old song "Junk Food Junkie".

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I LOVED that song!!! I too crave salt. I was wondering what my body was lacking because I crave it soooo much!! Does anyone do this: It the dessert BEFORE the meal, so that the salt overrides the sugar?

Example: I will buy a candy bar and a bag of chips. I HAVE to eat the CB 1st, because I can't stand the surar remaining in my mouth. I eat the chips last so that the salt is there. I do not use sugar in my tea or coffee, I use Sweet N Low. I sent my dd down to the store last night to buy a big Hershey's dark chocolate candy bar and shared it with all of my kids and my DH.

I found out in 1982 that I am borderline diabetic and haven't used sugar in my tea or coffee since. When I do eat sugar, pancakes, waffles, CB's, ice cream, I get EXTREMELY tired and must take a nap. So I try hard not to eat it. I think that is why I eat salty foods. They satify the craving for munchies but don't make me tired. Does that make sense?

Lisa, I loved your visual. I can see me in the exact same position. I too am planning to quit smoking. I am going to use the patch. It worked for me for a week, until I ran out of patch. [and money] Cigs are cheaper by the pack. In my case though, it would be margaritas, cause they are SALTY!!! :D

Originally posted by mjlrn97

See, that's what comes to my mind when I think of the term "addiction": obsessing over, seeking out, and (in this case) consuming a certain substance, no matter what the consequences. It can be cocaine, ETOH, heroin, amphetamines, or DingDongs: if it occupies your mind and you're unhappy until you get it, if you know darned well it makes you feel like something the dog dug up and you want it anyway........THAT'S ADDICTION!!

Thanks for your candor, iliel. You've helped clear up something that's confused me for a long time, and even if it's not hard science, it makes perfect sense to me....and makes my decision to give up sugar entirely a little less painful. Now I realize that I can't help the way my body reacts to it, but that also means leaving it alone because I CAN'T control how much I eat......I can't have just two cookies, anymore than I can have just two beers!! I've fooled myself for years, thinking I could have "just a bite" or "only one piece" and be satisfied.......but all that did was wake up the cravings, and sooner or later (usually sooner) I was back to my old tricks.

Nope....it's gotta go. There are so many good things to eat that DON'T have sugar.......some can even be made with Splenda.....and I've got to learn to adapt my recipes so that when I get to Phase Three of my program, maintenance, I can have the occasional treat without messing myself up.

Thanks again!

Obsessing....that's it, one simple word and that's what I do with chocolate. There is no other food I do it with, it's not even sugar in general, just chocolate.

I get the same cramp in my stomach thiniking about chocolate as I do thinking about drugs.....Ever since the migraine the other day I haven't touched it, but it's also not been in the house and I wonder how much longer that will last.

mjlrn....I bet we can beat this together, we've been through worse! The only prob with this....it's totaly legal.

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Yup........and there's no age limit on who can buy the stuff, even the 12-year-old can run down to the mini-mart and pick up a Butterfingers;)

I, too, crave salty things.......in fact, salty/sweet is my favorite combination, which is why I love things like Screaming Yellow Zonkers, peanut brittle, kettle corn etc. It's too bad, because as much as I love sweets, I love salt even more........it's the one thing I've NEVER been able to give up, even for a short time. My internist has been after me for years to cut down my sodium intake because of my HTN, but without salt, nothing has any flavor, and if it doesn't have flavor, it's not worth eating. (Oops.....maybe that's the point.)

Oh well, one thing at a time........maybe when I get my weight down enough, my BP will also go down and I won't NEED to give up salt!

BTW........I'm now working to lose 40# by May 22, as my daughter and her husband-to-be have chosen that day to be married.:D

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mjlrn97

All I can say is I totally feel your pain. If I abstain and go back to eating I eat like a crazy person...After giving up sweets for a lent, I ate so much candy it is sick. I was at a point justifying eating 3 candy bars in one day plus other sweets. Who in their right mind can say it is ok to eat 3 candy bars in a day. I made Christmas cookies and ate about 2-3 dozen myself over a week. I am completely obsessed and also gave up drinking about 6 or 7 years ago and smoking 8 because I could not control the habits. I have tossed the idea around about giving up sugar totally but the only way I have successfully been able to control drinking or smoking is to not do it at all. It just does not seem fair (do I sound like an addict or what?). Some people can give up chocolate and be fine...but if I give up say cake and cookies, I will find a way to get sugar in. Since the xmas cookies are gone, I am now drinking pop like there is no tomorrow. Once I give that up, something else with sugar will takes its place...When I was a kid, my parents used to give me a dollar to go to the store and you could get stuff for 10 cents...I would have ten boxes of candy and eat them in a day. I think in my baby teeth I had about 30 cavities. Knowing the success I have had with giving up alcohol and smoking cold turkey and never slipping once in over 8 years tells me the only way I can control the sugar is to give it up all together...I know if i give it up and say 3 months from now say it is ok to have a small ice cream, by the end of the summer, I will be eating the huge king kong size ice cream twice a day! UGH! The MADNESS has got to stop!

Btw...my favorite sweet/salt mix is a handful of movie popcorn followed by a twizzlers!

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Tooty......you could be my twin! I was EXACTLY the same way as a child (didn't have a weight problem then, though), and even as an adult I am a complete idiot when it comes to sweets, ETOH, and cigarettes. I can take or leave everything else, but I've just realized that I can no more stop at one piece of chocolate or one cookie than I could stop at one drink or one cigarette. And if that isn't addiction, I don't know what is......

Thanks for posting! It helps to know I'm not alone here in my struggle with a seemingly innocuous substance that takes over my life when I consume it.

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I am so glad to know I am not the only one too. Are you planning on giving it up all together? I am trying to find any possible way to keep a bit of it, but I know it won't work that way. I just need to quit it all together...

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Yep......I'm considering it........don't see where I really have a choice, any more than I did with the booze or the smokes. It's harder to avoid than other substances, but I've got to do it somehow.

It seems so silly, a grown woman being pushed around by substances which, in themselves, are harmless. I hate it. But I can hate it all I want---what I can't do is change how my body responds once I've consumed them. All I can do is stay away from them entirely........and now, I'm afraid, I have to add sugar to my list of no-no's.:o

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Let me know if you do give it up totally because I am so in the same situation. I am really not happy with they way it has been consuming me the past year. I am also very scared of teaching my son my bad habit. I agree it is way harder to give up than the other stuff. I am just scared to give it up. It was a lot of work to quit smoking and drinking and I know this will be harder cause it is EVERYWHERE.

But...we are not alone :) Good luck & keep me up to date with your progress.

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