Firstly, I would like to thank you for reading this and helping me with some advice!
I am 12 months off graduating from an ivy league university in Sydney Australia. I am a US resident and a mature age student.
Rather than doing my graduation year in a NSW Health Hospital, I would dearly like to come home and do it back home here in the US. I have a desire to specialise in Critical Intensive Care nursing with a sub-specialty in airway management and in 5 years or so would like to be a Nurse Specialist in that area.
My husband and I currently live in Lexington, South Carolina, but are seriously thinking of making the move to either Carmel or Santa Barbara in California! I have researched the hospitals in California, my favourite would be San Francisco University Hospital as its a trauma hospital.
Could someone please advise me, if I should do my graduation rotation in Australia (which would me take 2 years) or should I apply for a grad role in South Carolina or Augusta, Georgia (which is close to me), Washington DC or apply to San Fran. I've heard it is incredibly hard and extremely competitive to get a new grad here in the US, whereas in Sydney, Australia, its a given!
Are you intending to be snarky in your responses to people? Because that's how you're sounding.
"Wishy washy social science subjects?" Those "wishy washy" social sciences are considered essential elements of a nursing degree, and nursing practice, in the US.
The Ivy League does not mean "a premium university that is very hard to get into." It refers to a specific group of eight universities in the US Northeast. It's not a generic term referring to any good school. Oxford and Cambridge are excellent schools, but they're not Ivy League universities (nor is any school in Australia).
I'm no expert on nursing degrees from different countries, but I do know that plenty of people have posted here are having difficulty getting US licensure with a nursing degree from Australia. But I'm sure you know better -- you clearly believe that you do. Good luck.
Hi ya,
Sorry but I couldn't see your message on the public forum before. Absolutely not being snarky towards you or others (except for one that I reported). I am studying in the Notre Dame group of Universities. I think things got a little lost in translation. I think I said that I have already done a BA. BA's I think are a great basis for the precursers for any degree.
So I sincerely apologise, I did not intend to insult you in the least.
OP: You will not be able to come to the US and work in a nursing role during your last year of your nursing program.
I don't intend to finalise my BSN here in the US. But I began my BSN here in the US and it is too expensive.
Notwithstanding the above, I have made loads of inquiries to different Trauma 1 Hospitals here in the US and because I am a dual citizen, I CAN work as a nurse in the USA.
I don't intend to finalise my BSN here in the US. But I began my BSN here in the US and it is too expensive.
Notwithstanding the above, I have made loads of inquiries to different Trauma 1 Hospitals here in the US and because I am a dual citizen, I CAN work as a nurse in the USA.
Kind regards,
Marlena
Yes- AFTER you graduate and pass NCLEX- which will be extremely difficult as others have pointed out because of the different degree requirements between the US and OZ.
Also: Per ALlNurses TOS- if you do not hold a BSN degree- you cannot use it as part of your username.
Because I want to study in Australia and I can! I am a dual citizen. My degree in Australia costs approx $18k because the government subsidies everyone's degree, like they do in the UK.
You are wrong in saying that getting a graduate is a given - unless you are a full fee paying student and not a resident, you cannot get a job, so in that regard you are right. However, if you are citizen and not a flop at university, you will get a graduate role!
Nursing in Australia is not different to nursing in the US. We are more technicians. Are you Australian or are you American? and why are you so combative. Additionally how dare you refer to me as being incompetent.
I hope with your attitude you are praying to god for a grad role here. I must say, your attitude will not get you far. This site is not a site for putting other people down.
Oh and just to let on a little secret, Pearsons run the NCLEX in most countries around the globe!
If you would have actually read my question in the first place, I wouldn't have to answer these benign questions of yours. Go back to step 1.
Finally don't tell me where I can work, you don't even have command of the English language!!!
Have a great day!!!
so essentially you went to Aus to steal the tax payers money and then go back to the us without providing a service to the public who paid for your education? Nice.
thats a bit idealistic thinking you are guaranteed a new grad job. There aren't enough going around. Yes people get jobs, but lots have to work in areas they don't like, such as aged care without the support of the new grad programme. Can't believe how naive you are.
yes you would be incompetent in an American setting, like I said. You haven't been trained to work in American hospital at all. Would take any American employer a lot of time to get you work ready.
my attitude of putting people down? Maybe you should look at yourself. Oh by the way I don't believe in God, so no not praying. Nor am I looking for new grad job.
just because the nclex is offered there, doesn't mean your eligible to take the test.
you are so misleading! You never mentioned you dual citizenship or why you choose to study here. Also using bsn in your name when you are still a second year student! Who by the way is not close to graduation.
Lastly you literally asked people where you can work! Now people can't answer you question?
im assuming I'm the one you reported? Like come on. You didn't even read my post properly and now your getting angry because you didn't get the response you wanted. But I think you should move back to America you attitude and self entitlement Is a better match to the American way of life. I now get why so many complain about there co workers and the drama in the us.
so essentially you went to Aus to steal the tax payers money and then go back to the us without providing a service to the public who paid for your education? Nice.
thats a bit idealistic thinking you are guaranteed a new grad job. There aren't enough going around. Yes people get jobs, but lots have to work in areas they don't like, such as aged care without the support of the new grad programme. Can't believe how naive you are.
yes you would be incompetent in an American setting, like I said. You haven't been trained to work in American hospital at all. Would take any American employer a lot of time to get you work ready.
my attitude of putting people down? Maybe you should look at yourself. Oh by the way I don't believe in God, so no not praying. Nor am I looking for new grad job.
just because the nclex is offered there, doesn't mean your eligible to take the test.
you are so misleading! You never mentioned you dual citizenship or why you choose to study here. Also using bsn in your name when you are still a second year student! Who by the way is not close to graduation.
Lastly you literally asked people where you can work! Now people can't answer you question?
im assuming I'm the one you reported? Like come on. You didn't even read my post properly and now your getting angry because you didn't get the response you wanted. But I think you should move back to America you attitude and self entitlement Is a better match to the American way of life. I now get why so many complain about there co workers and the drama in the us.
I was with you all along here, agreed with your context, and planned to "Like" this post until I got to the last bit, the part I bolded. With that, you turned me (and probably others) off completely. I mean really, you are so against Americans in general you can make such a nasty, stereotypical blanket statement as this? I resent your "attitude and self-entitlement being a match for the American way of life" more than I can express. Just SO rude!
Firstly, I would like to thank you for reading this and helping me with some advice!
I am 12 months off graduating from an ivy league university in Sydney Australia. I am a US resident and a mature age student.
There is no Ivy League school in Australia. You may be attending an excellent school, even a nationally or world-renowned school, but it is not an Ivy League school. If I read you correctly you are still a full year away from reaching your graduation day. Much can happen in that time.
Rather than doing my graduation year in a NSW Health Hospital, I would dearly like to come home and do it back home here in the US. I have a desire to specialise in Critical Intensive Care nursing with a sub-specialty in airway management and in 5 years or so would like to be a Nurse Specialist in that area.
This is not an option for you. You cannot work as a nurse in the US until you have passed the NCLEX and are licensed in the state in which you seek to work. This is not possible until you have completed all your educational requirements AND they are found to be acceptable to the state board of nursing to which you apply. You may find that you will not qualify to take the NCLEX for any state until additional coursework is completed successfully. To know this you would need to research each state board of nursing's requirements first.
My husband and I currently live in Lexington, South Carolina, but are seriously thinking of making the move to either Carmel or Santa Barbara in California! I have researched the hospitals in California, my favourite would be San Francisco University Hospital as its a trauma hospital.
I believe this has been covered already; you would have an exceptionally difficult time obtaining employment there.
Could someone please advise me, if I should do my graduation rotation in Australia (which would me take 2 years) or should I apply for a grad role in South Carolina or Augusta, Georgia (which is close to me), Washington DC or apply to San Fran. I've heard it is incredibly hard and extremely competitive to get a new grad here in the US, whereas in Sydney, Australia, its a given!
I'm not sure I'm clear: is it 12 months (one year) to your expected graduation date, or two years? Rather big difference for planning purposes. Regardless, you should understand there IS no "grad role" available to you in the US. The term "new grad" in the US applies to recent graduates of nursing schools, who may or may not have passed the NCLEX at the time at which they are applying for jobs. There IS no role for a student other than school rotations (while enrolled IN a school).
Can someone please advise as to what I should do?
Thanks and kind regards,
Marlena
Complete your education where you are. Find out what additional schooling may be required for the state in which you ultimately want to work. Do that, then apply, take and pass the licensing exam. And go from there.
I'm confused... will you have finished a nursing degree when you some to the US? Just being a US citizen doesn't qualify you for sitting for the NCLEX. The individual state board of nursing has to determine if they consider your education comparable before they'll even let you test.
Just a staff note: I think we are losing something in the translation. Back to the original poster:
1. Are you planning to come to the US to FINISH your nursing degree or will you have already graduated?
2. Am unsure your Australian nursing degree would permit you to sit for the NCLEX in the US - please discuss with the board of nursing in the state where you wish to take the NCLEX for their specific directions.
3. Sometimes on the internet; without the benefit of facial expressions and tone of voice, miscommunication occurs. Its always best to try to clarify your answers with questions prior to posting.
I was with you all along here, agreed with your context, and planned to "Like" this post until I got to the last bit, the part I bolded. With that, you turned me (and probably others) off completely. I mean really, you are so against Americans in general you can make such a nasty, stereotypical blanket statement as this? I resent your "attitude and self-entitlement being a match for the American way of life" more than I can express. Just SO rude!
No not against Americans. But the more I use this site, the more negative view I get. Seems like all nurses have an attitude and if not, they are being bullied.
There just seems to be so much drama amongst co workers and managers, which isnt a problem in Aus/NZ. I understand it can happen anywhere, bad coworker or toxic environment ect, but I have not seen/heard of anything like I have of American posters. Just seems like everyone is angry, rude, anxious, crying, short staffed, fired for no reason, has no orientation, bullied and so on.
I get people use this site to share problems and to vent, but so far the thing I've heard people be positive about is the money and hours.
No not against Americans. But the more I use this site, the more negative view I get. Seems like all nurses have an attitude and if not, they are being bullied.
There just seems to be so much drama amongst co workers and managers, which isnt a problem in Aus/NZ. I understand it can happen anywhere, bad coworker or toxic environment ect, but I have not seen/heard of anything like I have of American posters. Just seems like everyone is angry, rude, anxious, crying, short staffed, fired for no reason, has no orientation, bullied and so on.
I get people use this site to share problems and to vent, but so far the thing I've heard people be positive about is the money and hours.
From your username- it appears you are not yet an RN and so really unqualified to speak to this issue. To say something 'isn't a problem in Aus/ NZ' when you are not an RN is ridiculous. How can you know that something is not a problem in two entire countries?
From your username- it appears you are not yet an RN and so really unqualified to speak to this issue. To say something 'isn't a problem in Aus/ NZ' when you are not an RN is ridiculous. How can you know that something is not a problem in two entire countries?
well NZ/Aus are very small places that a very similar. As much as we hate being compared, we are basically the same.
And yes, not an RN yet. But I will be in 6 weeks. And our education here is much different over 50% of it is done in the hospital. Where we work with a nurse on that ward taking care of there full pt load while they observe and teach us new skills. So I know what it's like in the hospital, we are prepared to work ready and not just taugh how to take the nclex (which I've heard a lot of people say that's what nursing schools are like there in America). So I think I have a pretty good understanding of what it's like to work here.
Like I said, it can happen everywhere. But it's not a big issue as it appears to be over there. I'm just going by what I've seen on this site, as some one who I assume is not from here how can you assume I'm wrong or unqualified to make that statement?
Perhaps the fact that the overwhelming majority of AN users are in the US colors your thinking about how prevalent these problems are in the US compared to other nations.
marlena.erika
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Hi ya,
Sorry but I couldn't see your message on the public forum before. Absolutely not being snarky towards you or others (except for one that I reported). I am studying in the Notre Dame group of Universities. I think things got a little lost in translation. I think I said that I have already done a BA. BA's I think are a great basis for the precursers for any degree.
So I sincerely apologise, I did not intend to insult you in the least.
With kind regards, Marlena