I am in nursing school and during almost every clinical, its guaranteed that I will see a nurse that is miserable, that looks like this is the last place he/she wants to be. I am sorry, but no one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to be here.
Nobody likes being in a hospital, and it really brings you down. Seeing someone who is positive and overall happy helps the healing process IMHO. If a patient is sad and depressed, and then sees a nurse who is miserable and just not happy, it doesnt help the overall mood of the patient. I know this first hand because my mom was in the hospital for over 3 months and her biggest problem was negative nurses. She even yelled at a couple of them saying why are you miserable, your not the one in the hospital bed.
I know we are all human and nobody is perfect, but at least try to mask some of it or try not to let your emotions show. I get it, nurses are underpaid and overworked and underappreciated. Well, that can be said to almost every other profession out there. So please, for the sake of our patients, try to be a little positive and look at the big picture, it can always be worse!
They were probably smiling until they saw a hoard of know-it-all, judgmental students enter the floor. They knew their day just got all sorts of worse.
I would LOVE to see you respond to your own post after you've worked a year on a med/surg floor.
Can I ask why your mother thinks it's appropriate to yell at nurses?
Does she yell at any service provider who looks 'miserable'?
What if her doctor looks 'miserable' because hasn't had any sleep and has an overworked day? Does she yell at him/her if she feels like it?
Does she yell at the TV repair guy, the plumber, the guy doing her taxes, her hairdresser?
Quite possibly .... your mother's nurses are miserable looking after someone who yells at them. Nobody looks genuinely happy when they are being treated like a piece of dirt. They could fake it though ..... but it would be fake 'happy'
I bet mom didnt yelled at the doctor,I bet 100 dollars on it and she was super nice to the MD. It is always like that.People think nurses are glorified servants.
Op just remeber the MD is in and out from there fast,nurse is the one who actually monitors your mom.
Ps.Yesterday for the first time in my life I heard an actually a very sincere complement from one of my patients.He said that I do much more for him than his primary doctor,I couldnt believe my ears.He said that he considers me the doctor (heh) and his doctor always seems to be in rush.
Specializes in drug seekers and the incurably insane..
To the OP: I'm sure you meant well when posting this but as others posts have said....wait until you're in the trenches pretty soon. I like being a nurse and caring for people, but being degraded on a frequent basis does get to you sometimes. Believe me, your paradigm will change. If not, the management will likely vote you in as "Team player" of the year at the facility Xmas party. Better start practicing bending over and grabbing your ankles.
I am in nursing school and during almost every clinical, its guaranteed that I will see a nurse that is miserable, that looks like this is the last place he/she wants to be. I am sorry, but no one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to be here.
Nobody likes being in a hospital, and it really brings you down. Seeing someone who is positive and overall happy helps the healing process IMHO. If a patient is sad and depressed, and then sees a nurse who is miserable and just not happy, it doesnt help the overall mood of the patient. I know this first hand because my mom was in the hospital for over 3 months and her biggest problem was negative nurses. She even yelled at a couple of them saying why are you miserable, your not the one in the hospital bed.
I know we are all human and nobody is perfect, but at least try to mask some of it or try not to let your emotions show. I get it, nurses are underpaid and overworked and underappreciated. Well, that can be said to almost every other profession out there. So please, for the sake of our patients, try to be a little positive and look at the big picture, it can always be worse!
Okay, I will give you this mkhoaja: there are miserable, negative nurses. But, as a new nurse, I haven't run into many and thankfully the ones I have run into work on a different unit.
What I have run into are many nurses who have spent a whole shift assessing acutely ill patients, administering a horse-cart full of drugs, calling doctors and documenting every little thing. Oh yeah...and saving a life or two along the way on occasion. I think most nurses accept that as part of the job we do and do it with more or less a smile on their faces...or at least not with a scowl. Once in a while we all have bad days, and some days it's going to show. While there is no excuse for being rude to a patient, it should be safe to vent among co-workers.
If I didn't think you were young and naieve I'd lash you with a wet noodle. Instead I'll just leave you with the following prediction: you'll see. :-)
lol... This only happens to me when I haven't had any coffee yet! Otherwise, I'm fine and dandy all the way :)
People should always think of the song -- the sun will come out, tomorrow... bet your bottom dollar that's tomorrow.... there'll be sun. I don't remember who sung it, but I like it anyway.
P.S.
For people who are crabby/snappy, etc... etc.. the following are the usual reasons: Not getting/not enough sex, constipation, need to take/stop meds or switch to better meds. Water retention? OR feeling fat.
OR, they just plain out have relationship issues. OR, maybe they're in constant pain of some sort due to -- gas problems.
They were probably smiling until they saw a hoard of know-it-all, judgmental students enter to floor. They knew their day just got all sorts of worse.
I would LOVE to see you respond to your own post after you've worked a year on a med/surg floor.
Fribblet, I dont think thats fair. I go out of my way to make sure I dont add any stress to my nurse because I know he/she already has a full plate. Dont assume that I go in as a "know it all judgmental student." When I need something, I ask them during a slow period or I wont even ask if I have computer access. I take on every responsibility possible so that the nurse can focus on his/her priorities. I have never had anything but positive feedback and a lot of my nurses have gone out of their way and told my instructor how pleasant it was having me as their student for that day.
Furthermore, I dont think I would answer my post any differently in the future either. I know what nursing entails. I understand the politics of it, the good, the bad, the ugly, etc. Just because I am a student doesnt mean that I dont see the things happening around me. I see doctors treating nurses poorly (unfortunantly), patients getting mad, stressing over time management, meds, family, etc etc.
Again, I mean no disrespect towards anyone, and maybe I am the one student who isnt a know it all judgemental douche lol. I am simply just stating what I see. We all deal with stress differently, I was just writing what I noticed. :)
Fribblet, I dont think thats fair. I go out of my way to make sure I dont add any stress to my nurse because I know he/she already has a full plate. Dont assume that I go in as a "know it all judgmental student." When I need something, I ask them during a slow period or I wont even ask if I have computer access. I take on every responsibility possible so that the nurse can focus on his/her priorities. I have never had anything but positive feedback and a lot of my nurses have gone out of their way and told my instructor how pleasant it was having me as their student for that day.
Furthermore, I dont think I would answer my post any differently in the future either. I know what nursing entails. I understand the politics of it, the good, the bad, the ugly, etc. Just because I am a student doesnt mean that I dont see the things happening around me. I see doctors treating nurses poorly (unfortunantly), patients getting mad, stressing over time management, meds, family, etc etc.
Again, I mean no disrespect towards anyone, and maybe I am the one student who isnt a know it all judgemental douche lol. I am simply just stating what I see. We all deal with stress differently, I was just writing what I noticed. :)
So, you can't take what you dish out?
No one can judge you when you started a thread where you make judgements about nurses?
I don't care how much you smile or how much you think you're helping the nurse, you're doing nothing but creating a mound of extra work for him or her. Now, instead of just getting things done and monitoring her patients, she's going to be behind on her mess so you can pass a couple, she's going to have to go back and double check everything you do ( regardless if your instructor us present.) you have just totally thrown off her day. She's got to now babysit a student AND protect her patient from them.
Some nurses live teaching and having students (I'm one of them) but a lot of times a nurse had no say and is given mo advance warning that a student is going to be messing with her assignment.
I bet mom didnt yelled at the doctor,I bet 100 dollars on it and she was super nice to the MD. It is always like that.People think nurses are glorified servants.
Op just remeber the MD is in and out from there fast,nurse is the one who actually monitors your mom.
Ps.Yesterday for the first time in my life I heard an actually a very sincere complement from one of my patients.He said that I do much more for him than his primary doctor,I couldnt believe my ears.He said that he considers me the doctor (heh) and his doctor always seems to be in rush.
Are you nuts? That doctor who put a hole in her esophagus wasnt allowed anywhere near my mom because she tried to get out of bed and hit him LOLLLLL. (im glad we can laugh about it now)
How would you feel if a doc put a hole in your esophagus? And by the way, afterwards when my mom was leaving, she told me that it was the good nurses who got her through the whole ordeal, and she actually was even more resentful to the doctors because they came in for 45 seconds, and then left. (this was a reason why i chose nursing instead of med school)
Fribblet, I dont think thats fair. I go out of my way to make sure I dont add any stress to my nurse because I know he/she already has a full plate. Dont assume that I go in as a "know it all judgmental student." When I need something, I ask them during a slow period or I wont even ask if I have computer access. I take on every responsibility possible so that the nurse can focus on his/her priorities. I have never had anything but positive feedback and a lot of my nurses have gone out of their way and told my instructor how pleasant it was having me as their student for that day.
Furthermore, I dont think I would answer my post any differently in the future either. I know what nursing entails. I understand the politics of it, the good, the bad, the ugly, etc. Just because I am a student doesnt mean that I dont see the things happening around me. I see doctors treating nurses poorly (unfortunantly), patients getting mad, stressing over time management, meds, family, etc etc.
Again, I mean no disrespect towards anyone, and maybe I am the one student who isnt a know it all judgemental douche lol. I am simply just stating what I see. We all deal with stress differently, I was just writing what I noticed. :)
Sure you know everything about nursing being a student and all:lol2:
She was on Fentanyl pain patches, and some of the nurses left the old patches on, not bothering to take them off. When she asked about them, they told her it was ok. After almost overdosing, she was a little more careful. I hope that is reason enough to "yell" at someone. Plus, add to that the fact that she was supposed to have day surgery, and ended up over 3 months in the hospital because the anesthesiologist ruptured her esophagus when placing an endo-trach tube for her surgery.
But this conversation isnt meant to determine why my mother was yelling at people. When any of us are mistreated in any profession, from nursing to plumbing, we tend to get angry.
I think my overall point is being missed here. EVERY profession has crappy days. I used to work for a cell phone company, and it was great pay, but I hated my hours, my co workers called in, and if you think people treat you badly when their sick, try dealing with them when their cell phone isnt working. Sometimes i would swear to god that people would love money more than their own health. I am just simply saying that a little kindness goes a long way IMHO.
bottom line I think you more has a temper problem.
No one can judge you when you started a thread where you make judgements about nurses?
I don't care how much you smile or how much you think you're helping the nurse, you're doing nothing but creating a mound of extra work for him or her. Now, instead of just getting things done and monitoring her patients, she's going to be behind on her mess so you can pass a couple, she's going to have to go back and double check everything you do ( regardless if your instructor us present.) you have just totally thrown off her day. She's got to now babysit a student AND protect her patient from them.
Some nurses live teaching and having students (I'm one of them) but a lot of times a nurse had no say and is given mo advance warning that a student is going to be messing with her assignment.
Where did I make a judgement about any nurse? I am simply venting my observations. If i came across as being judgemental, then please accept my apologies. Like I have said previously, I understand where the pressure comes from, I just dont see that as a legitimate reason to have a look of eternal constipation. As far as the pressure of having a student nurse, I think all nurses need to step back and look at when they were in school and realize that someone at some point took the time to help them out. I have been around nurses who didnt want me for those very reasons, but I did not make a big deal out of it, and instead called my instructor and told her what happened. I was rewarded by going to the ER the next day and not having any paper work because I handled it right, with a big fake smile while the nurse stood there and proceeded to give me a lecture on how inconvenient I was lol. Life is about choices. And for the record, when I started this thread, I forgot to mention that this really only pertains to like 30% of the nurses I have encountered. I couldnt be happier with the rest. But, those 30% seem to get 70% of the attention unfortunately.
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They were probably smiling until they saw a hoard of know-it-all, judgmental students enter the floor. They knew their day just got all sorts of worse.
I would LOVE to see you respond to your own post after you've worked a year on a med/surg floor.