Stop Foreign Nurses

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Foreign Nurses coming to work in our Health Care facilities are the most serious threat to our professional security. They threaten our earning potential as well as are pushing us out of the Long Term Care environment. Kindred Healthcare is one of the biggest offenders. What are your views on this most serious matter now facing our profession.

I have more of a middle-ground opinion about this. To the foreign-born nurses who choose to come here, immigrate and work, I say, bravo and good luck! Many people immigrate from other countries in search of a better life and to fill jobs.

On the other hand, the deliberate importing of foreign nurses by greasing the skids in the immigration process in an attempt to drive down nursing salaries not only is unethical to American nurses, but is unethical to the countries where the nurses are being imported from, creating a more dire nursing shortage in developing countries.

My spouse is a foreign born individual and obtained her nursing education in the USA. This is about companies like Kindred importing cheap labor and these individuals have little rights and work in situations that an American would not accept unless the Employer improved conditions, ie, staff, etc.

Thanks for your posting. You Boston people are better educated...

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The bad thing is when you stop all foreign nurses you stop the good ones too. Example I have worked with many filipina nurses who were so experiened and awesome I was always greatful to work for them (im a tech) A good nurse from anywhere is worth their weight in gold.

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Telling someone to to do some research is the easy way out. Why not explain your views. I'm well aware that there are agencies that contract foreign workers to come here and work, i.e. the nurses in NJ who were charged with abandoning their patients. I do not agree with it, but I don't agree with you blaming all foreign nurses. If you can back up your stance with some resources or research you have done, perhaps I'd be more inclined believe you.

I don't have to defend myself. Besides you opinion will soon be in the minority once nurses are better educated on this.. This will be my last reply. Only interested in nurses that will listen.

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I don't have to defend myself. Besides you opinion will soon be in thje minority once nurses are better educated on this.. This will be my last reply. Only interested in nurses that will listen.

You sure do have to defend yourself. The burden of proof is entirely on you-- this is your thread, your xenophobic claim.

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You Boston people are better educated...

You seem very educated also.:rolleyes:

Maybe you should consider another website. Not many nurses on here are inclined to believe xenophobic ideas. The last time I checked, this was an open forum. Anyone with differing opinions can challenge your's. I'm sorry you feel differently.

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The issue I see with foreign people coming over to our country (at least with the hispanic population) is that some of them are bilingual and that is a big plus for them seeing as many who come here do not learn the language and our higher ups somehow think that we need to accomodate the non-english speakers. I see job ads now that require a person to be bilingual and it seems to me that they will have the upper hand being able to speak two languages. It may seem short sighted but a great deal of people I know will not learn spanish simply b/c this country is an english speaking one and anyone who comes here needs to learn english. Peace

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The only issue I have seen with some foreign nurses has been cultural differences. By White, Hispanic, and even most Asian standard most of the African (from africa) nurses I have worked with seem to be almost frigid emotionally as though their homeland is so tough not much evokes pity or sentiment for even the worst off patients. I even heard one tell a grieving family member "she dead now why you crying". I guess it just strikes me as odd because no matter what culture or belief they come from I try to adapt and care for them without inserting my personal views (dying with dignity etc.) Also I have seen many of them perform resident care that was questionable at best in terms of safety (lotsa shortcuts). Again this has just been my observations not necessarily a reason to stop hiring them but I think everyone should be held to a standard of care not just a warm body who agrees to overtime for the money.

I have been told by some foreign guest workers that in their country nurses are to be respected and that they believe that they are on a pedestal.

My position is that we are public servants with a license granted by the state government in which the people we serve elected. Many nurses from other backgrounds don't understand or comprehend the servant status we hold for the priviledge of a license.

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hehe I have heard that argument many times and well all I can say is that it is a grievous lack of education in the USA that we only learn one language. and its kinda on the conceited side to say that they should have to learn english to get cared for. As a tri-lingual white boy I have been in many other countries and seen english only speaking travelers treated medically where no staff complained or talked down to them because these people were in a foreign country where all they had bothered to learn was una margarita mas por favor. and guess what our country was established as a melting pot . its really easy to look down on the hispanics but what about the non english speaking germans and russian off the ships we get. I work just as hard and try to be as accomadating to them as well. PS look at a map we are the only predominanlty english country left. We ARE outnumbered ... learn a new language and culture it may help you enjoy life more. I DID... No more beer swilling bbq eating monster truck driving cousin humping wal-mart shopping country music life for me... there are other things to enjoy out there.. rent a movie called " a day without mexicans" not only is it hilarious it crazy true.

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I have no problem with non english speaking patients. I live in Detroit where we have great diversity. There is Spanish, Mexican, Middle Eastern, Indian, phillipino, Russian, British, Canadian, Polish, German, etc. I've never had any problem communicating with non-english speaking patients.

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hehe I have heard that argument many times and well all I can say is that it is a grievous lack of education in the USA that we only learn one language. and its kinda on the conceited side to say that they should have to learn english to get cared for. As a tri-lingual white boy I have been in many other countries and seen english only speaking travelers treated medically where no staff complained or talked down to them because these people were in a foreign country where all they had bothered to learn was una margarita mas por favor. and guess what our country was established as a melting pot . its really easy to look down on the hispanics but what about the non english speaking germans and russian off the ships we get. I work just as hard and try to be as accomadating to them as well. PS look at a map we are the only predominanlty english country left. We ARE outnumbered ... learn a new language and culture it may help you enjoy life more. I DID... No more beer swilling bbq eating monster truck driving cousin humping wal-mart shopping country music life for me... there are other things to enjoy out there.. rent a movie called " a day without mexicans" not only is it hilarious it crazy true.

My father is for Eastern Europe and my Mother from Western Europe. The rule back then was assimilate into America. They did that. Never attempted to force us to learn their languages but did force themselves to learn English..

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hehe I have heard that argument many times and well all I can say is that it is a grievous lack of education in the USA that we only learn one language. and its kinda on the conceited side to say that they should have to learn english to get cared for. As a tri-lingual white boy I have been in many other countries and seen english only speaking travelers treated medically where no staff complained or talked down to them because these people were in a foreign country where all they had bothered to learn was una margarita mas por favor. and guess what our country was established as a melting pot . its really easy to look down on the hispanics but what about the non english speaking germans and russian off the ships we get. I work just as hard and try to be as accomadating to them as well. PS look at a map we are the only predominanlty english country left. We ARE outnumbered ... learn a new language and culture it may help you enjoy life more. I DID... No more beer swilling bbq eating monster truck driving cousin humping wal-mart shopping country music life for me... there are other things to enjoy out there.. rent a movie called " a day without mexicans" not only is it hilarious it crazy true.

My father is for Eastern Europe and my Mother from Western Europe. The widely accepted standard back then was assimilate into America. They did that. Never attempted to force us to learn their languages but did force themselves to learn English..

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And I congratulate them on learning english (I taught ESL it's hard) But I personally think the did you a disservice not trying to teach you their languages. The more languages you know the better nurse you can be as effective comunication is our most used tool.

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