It's been a minute since I posted a thread. Fast forward .. I'm 7 weeks into a 15 week semester. Everything has been going well. At first it was hard for me to adjust to everything but now that I have, I've been doing good... up until a couple of days ago.
I took an exam last Friday. I felt pretty confident about it. Grades came back and I got .... a 62! What?! I knew for a fact I didn't make a 62 so the first thing I did was email my professor and explain to her that there was no way I failed the exam so I wanted to come in and review my test.
Well, today I reviewed my test. Come to find out I didn't make a 62. The scantron machine didn't pick up on some of my answers. 11 of them to be exact. So I asked my professor, "Since I did get the right answers and marked them on my scantron correctly this means I can get my grade changed to what it should be, right?" She goes on to say and I quote, "I'm not sure if I'm going to give you credit because you didn't follow directions. You didn't mark your answers dark enough. I will have to think about it."
So, basically what I got out of that is even if I did get the correct answers on my scantron she may or may not give me the grade I'm really suppose to have. I'm sorry, but fair is fair. It's one thing if I had the answers marked on my actual test and not the scantron, but I have the correct answers on the scantron! It's not my fault the machine didn't pick it up.
If she doesn't give me credit I'm definitely going to go talk to someone else and fight it if I have to. What would you do?
I don't know why nursing professors/ instructors/ teachers are so mean, and show all their frustrations in life against their students. Sometimes, I even wonder, with all my respect and without offense because there are still some amazing teachers outthere, if they were not able to suceed as nurses and that is why they make our life so difficult while in nursing school. Go upper and show your point, if they don't listen go all the way to your student services dean and they have to help you. Good Luck!!!
Not everyone can handle the online format, it takes a special and smart individual to learn independently. I understand some need to be cradled and spoon fed the information.
I have e-mailed both of these professors -- sent it a couple of days ago. They have known about the issue since at least last Thursday. No one will respond to my e-mail. When they see me at school they act just like I never sent them a message. Guess I will be at somebody's office hours tomorrow after clinicals. I get a sense that they are trying to avoid the situation rather than just dealing with it. Being that these are two very low failing grades (52 and 62--a passing grade is 75+), I'm definitely not going to let this go. I'll update you all when I get more information. This is really starting to tick me off and stress me out!
Online schools are crappy.....and all ppl do is cheat. If you go to one just don't tell anyone if you want to be taken seriously. Are you going to base your license on what you copied from your friend?
Hm. No. In many ways, taking classes online is harder than taking classes in person. Often they have more assignments and papers and forced discussion than one would typically get in a standard format. They are designed that way to ensure that students are remaining engaged and interacting with the material. I did the majority of my last bachelor's well as my master's in an online format. I assure you there was no "crappiness" or cheating involved. I highly suggest not making such uninformed, blanket statements if you want to be taken seriously.
Yes, this remark is what got this whole thread sidetracked to begin with! Its as if its OK for some to be condescending but not others..... anyway, i would go as far up the chain as needed to fix this! Get your fellow students involved too.
That, to me is a very judgmental remark...I don't believe that you can judge a nursing program on how it is delivered...some of us have no choice to take online classes to further our nursing, and taking them from reputable schools too....
That being said, I would go further up the chain for a resolution to your grade issue...I have to deal with online or proctored exams which utilize computer exams generated by my professors, and quizzes and assignments marked by an actual human being...both have a margin for error. You must have done it right, otherwise you wouldn't have gotten any mark.
I guess I should rephrase, since looking back now that comment does appear to assume online nursing school are all terrible no matter what.
What was meant by that comment is that due to the content of a nursing program, there aren't currently many good ones out there. As in, based on graduation rates and NCLEX rates of online core nursing programs, most seem to be lacking. (And that could be due to either poor online structure, or just tougher content to learn nearly independently of any instruction) I'm sure there are some good ones out there. Just like there are definitely some cruddy brick and mortor schools out there. But generally when you see an online nursing program (not RN to BSN and the like, but no RN lisence and no degree yet schools) they are the often cheaply advertised for profit schools that have a bad rep. I am also not talking about online classes in general. Just nursing CORE classes.
And the the difference between my comment and the one that was, in my opinion, offensive is that I am not insulting the intelligence of those who choose online nursing education.
No, it's not okay for people to be offensive and for others to accept it. The logic behind it is that if every time someone said something you don't like, or disagree with, not to take it so personal. If a person did, you would fight and argue with the rude teller at the bank, the driver that cut you off in traffic, the woman who bumped into you and didn't say excuse me, and so on.
Meaning, you will come in contact with situations and people that may not behave or say stuff that you agree with. You can't get upset all the time. If we all reacted to every situation, we would all be in jail. I just have too many things going on in my life to feel some type of way about a strangers opinion.
When this happens, I say my peace and ignore the poster. You have every right to feel the way you feel.
I too did online classes for a few prerequisites. It was a life saver. I still had to go in for the exams and final.
Touché. In real life I usually do just that. I either speak my mind and leave it be, or just walk away completely. I guess online it is just easier to keep at it without realizing the horse has been beaten and buried and there is no point in continuing such a petty argument in the first place. Lol. Owell.
Not sure if it matters anymore being that my thread has been taken over by something that has nothing to do with the post, but anywho .. I spoke with one professor today. We had a meeting in her office and I got my grade changed! She did take off 5 points for a penalty but I think it's fair so I'm satisfied with it. So, that 52 is gone. Now the 62 is a whole 'nother story. That professor is still stuck on saying she's not going to change my grade ... soo I guess I need to start taking the necessary steps I have to take to speak with someone higher up.
Not sure if it matters anymore being that my thread has been taken over by something that has nothing to do with the post but anywho .. I spoke with one professor today. We had a meeting in her office and I got my grade changed! She did take off 5 points for a penalty but I think it's fair so I'm satisfied with it. So, that 52 is gone. Now the 62 is a whole 'nother story. That professor is still stuck on saying she's not going to change my grade ... soo I guess I need to start taking the necessary steps I have to take to speak with someone higher up.[/quote']
To take a 5 point penalty would be implying that this was in some way your fault (im not saying that it is). I thought you said that it was a machine problem. If there was a problem with the machine, then why are you being deducted any penalty points? Unless it was a mix between machine issue and marking too lightly, I would be fighting that 5 point deduction as well. If you were also partially at fault, then 5 points inst too terrible. GL with the other grade change. Sounds like its time to see the director of your program to discuss fixing this issue.
cubrnjvm, MSN, RN
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I don't know why nursing professors/ instructors/ teachers are so mean, and show all their frustrations in life against their students. Sometimes, I even wonder, with all my respect and without offense because there are still some amazing teachers outthere, if they were not able to suceed as nurses and that is why they make our life so difficult while in nursing school. Go upper and show your point, if they don't listen go all the way to your student services dean and they have to help you. Good Luck!!!