States Who Have Banned HESI

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what do we know about the states that have banned HESI? I know New York is one...any others?

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I guess I just have/had more self-confidence than you do.

The all-or-nothing comprehensive exam just wasn't that big of a deal... neither was the NCLEX, for that matter.

...and I guess I have more integrity....I'll stick with it.

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...and I guess I have more integrity....I'll stick with it.

Being annoyed that folks need to pass an exit exam gives you integrity?? We must have very different definitions of integrity...

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...and I guess I have more integrity....I'll stick with it.

How do you figure?

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Being annoyed that folks need to pass an exit exam gives you integrity?? We must have very different definitions of integrity...

I support the practice that schools need to have the integrity to allow everyone that completes the coursework to sit for the NCLEX rather than using a 3rd party creation to determine who gets a degree and who doesn't.

If a school is doing the right thing..and I believe in doing the right thing...a student that passes the exams should have no problem passing the NCLEX.

As another poster said....she found a school that had a high pass rate and when she got into the program she found out WHY....the percentages for NCLEX pass rates publically available through BON's should be the standard, not a skewed, artificial version of whatever "work around" a school has come up with.

Passing the NCLEX IS the standard for a Registered Nurse.

Not the HESI.

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I didn't create a thread about anything, just adding my two cents;)

And I figured things out quickly at that school, that there was a reason they had to skew their NCLEX pass rate. So this next semester I will be going to another school.

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...and I guess I have more integrity....
Based upon?
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I didn't create a thread about anything, just adding my two cents;)

And I figured things out quickly at that school, that there was a reason they had to skew their NCLEX pass rate. So this next semester I will be going to another school.

Sorry, wasn't saying that you started the thread.

This isn't the first thread complaining about folks having to take an exit exam.

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I support the practice that schools need to have the integrity to allow everyone that completes the coursework to sit for the NCLEX rather than using a 3rd party creation to determine who gets a degree and who doesn't.

If a school is doing the right thing..and I believe in doing the right thing...a student that passes the exams should have no problem passing the NCLEX.

As another poster said....she found a school that had a high pass rate and when she got into the program she found out WHY....the percentages for NCLEX pass rates publically available through BON's should be the standard, not a skewed, artificial version of whatever "work around" a school has come up with.

Passing the NCLEX IS the standard for a Registered Nurse.

Not the HESI.

So, anyone who thinks an exit exam is just a part of the curriculum....they automatically lack integrity?

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Passing the NCLEX IS the standard for a Registered Nurse.
Not solely.

A concomitant standard is completion of an approved program, be it through a hospital, a junior college, or a university.

Like it or not, every training program has its own requirements - just as many teachers often have their own standards and methods.

For that matter, each employer has their own standards for hiring - some say BSN only... others prefer ADN or diploma grads.

Some employers offer great benefits, others offer scant ones.

It's all fair... it's up to each individual to find what works for them.

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Passing the NCLEX IS the standard for a Registered Nurse.

Not the HESI.

That is correct.

But if a school's standard for awarding a degree is a final exam in the form of the HESI, then that's THEIR standard for awarding a degree.

Do you not think a final exam to pass the program is fair?

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My school requires an exit exam, but it's used as a) a tool for the faculty to determine if anything needs to improved in the curriculum, b) a tool for students to help them study for the NCLEX. FTR, up until last year my school used HESI; they have since switched to Kaplan.

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Hm. This is really surprising news to me. We had to take the HESI once in our last semester. Our teachers told us we didn't really need to study for it or worry about it. I don't blame schools for trying to use it to raise standards though. Nursing should be difficult.

My school had a 100% pass rate the last few semesters in a row and that is WITHOUT requiring the HESI and not counting our NLN scores against us or our grades, so they must be doing something right.

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