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The ER doc was once a FP doc who moonlighted in the ER. Pt came in with SVT and he ordered adenosine "slow push". I reminded him about the half life and he said he went to a conference where they said that adenosine pushed fast can cause the heart to stop.
Um............ain't that what it's s'posed to do?
I hid the port from his view and pushed it fast.
No, he didn't. Actually, he didn't equate the pause he saw with asystole. I think he heard what was said at the conference and took it literally: he thought the pt would stay in asystole. He saw the pause on the monitor and then a sinus, and he said "See, it worked." I never told him what I did.
Hey there TazziRN -
What a joke? But, what can you do except for what you did?
Sometimes, I think the best nursing care I can offer the patient is TO KEEP SOME DOCTORS FROM KILLING THEM!
Thankfully, these docs are kinda rare!
The FIRST time I gave adenosine as a paramedic (many years ago), it stopped 2 hearts! (The patients and MINE)
The patients was in her 30's with a rate of 220 and very unstable, so I had her all plugged in and lined up, and BAM - 6mg of Adenocard IV slammed in and ____________________ about 30 SECONDS OF RECORDED ASYSTOLE. She became unresponsive for a bit, but then the HR picked up in the 80's and all was well on ED arrival.
I've given it a bunch since then (always slammed in too :)) and never had that DELAY happen again. Thankfully!
So......
Sometimes, I think the best nursing care I can offer the patient is TO KEEP SOME DOCTORS FROM KILLING THEM!
Ohhhhh, most definitely!!!
I learned the hard way: do not let the pt or family see the monitor unless and until you've explained clearly what they're going to see! Had an older lady brought in by her granddaughter, pushed adenosine, got a pause, and the doc and I started smiling and saying things like "There we go!" Granddaughter stared at us in disbelief, tears in her eyes, because she thought her grandma's heart stopped.
We had a patient a few weeks ago who was taching along in the 200s. No idea how she was tolerating it, but she was. We were all over her...monitor, IV, Os, etc. We'd just pulled the crash cart in and were pulling up the first 6 of adenosine, when she converted herself. The whole room started laughing (except the EMT-P student, who didn't get it at first, then was just mad because he didn't get to see it!) How many times have you converted kiddos because you're placing an IV and they're screaming at you? The funniest thing in this case was this woman had been converted before with adenosine, and kept saying "but you didn't scare it out of me, I wasn't scared at all!" Riiiight. I know I enjoy it when my HR bumps over 150....
The ER doc was once a FP doc who moonlighted in the ER. Pt came in with SVT and he ordered adenosine "slow push". I reminded him about the half life and he said he went to a conference where they said that adenosine pushed fast can cause the heart to stop.Um............ain't that what it's s'posed to do?
I hid the port from his view and pushed it fast.
When I teach my floor about this med (because so few of them have actually pushed it), I tell them that it's a kind of "chemical defibrillation", a way to stop the heart from doing what it's doing in order for the heart to "reset" itself. We give it to little one's and it's always a treat to see people's response after giving the med (and seeing that nice flatline...):rotfl:
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I had a patient who was in the 200's and unstable, I put the pads on to cardiovert and she converted on her own, must have been the cold gel on the pads. I was very disapointed, I like playing with electricity.Swtooth
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I had a patient the other day that said she was allergic to Phenergan. I asked what it did to her, and she said, 'It makes me throw up. I take it, and I always throw up in a few hours."
I asked her if she was vomiting BEFORE she took the Phenergan, and she looked at me and said, "well, yeah, that's why they gave it to me."
I just smiled and put the allergy bracelet on her.