South university online graduate school of nursing (msn family nurse practitioner)

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As a licensed RN in the State of Ohio, I have decided to go back to school for my MSN. I want to become a Family Nurse Practitioner. In researching different schools, I have applied for both private, not-for-profit, and for-profit schools. In the end, I chose South University (located in Savannah, Georgia) based solely on the perception that it will accommodate my lifestyle/responsibilities.

AllNurses.com is an excellent site for nurses to network. That is why I chose this forum to discuss my educational experiences with South University. For the next 2 years or so, I will be updating weekly/biweekly on my experiences in South University's Online Graduate Nursing Program. As a graduate nursing student, I want to give other nurses a real idea of what they are signing up for with this university.

Additional Details:

Start Date: June 2nd, 2014

Program: Online Graduate Nursing Program

Track: Family Nurse Practitioner

As I was researching different graduate nursing programs I had specific criteria in mind.

1. It had to be accredited (and it is by the CCNE).

2. It had to be a flexible, online program (and it is).

3. It had to accept all licensed nurses in good standing, regardless of the amount of experience they have (and it does).

4. It had to be affordable/doable. For me, I refused to pay more than $35,000 for a program. The Family Nurse Practitioner program currently costs ($30,833).

5. It had to legitimately educate me to operate within my scope of practice, ethically and efficiently.

6. It had to be well-respected, at least insofar as future employers (or even your state board of nursing) do not laugh/roll their eyes when they hear where you graduated from.

Additional Factors To Take Into Consideration:

1. South University currently has some very bad reviews on consumeraffairs.com and onlinedegreereviews.org.

2. "For Profit" schools have a universally bad reputation as scam schools. "Buyer beware."

Disclaimer:

Before I go any further, I'd like to reinforce the fact that my opinions are my own and are not meant to reflect poorly on anyone. I will try to be as objective as possible in reviewing the school and the education I receive. No names will be mentioned, but I will discuss specific classes to give the reader as much information as possible.

Please keep in mind that admissions requirements, classes, tuition, and circumstances are relative to my situation. They will likely change over time, so I'm not entirely too sure how applicable any of this will be to others.

But for what it's worth, I'd like to give everyone an insiders look at a "For Profit," online graduate school of nursing.

Admissions Review:

Admissions Requirements


    [*=2]GPA of 3.0 or Higher
    [*=2]Unrestricted, Valid RN License in Resident State
    [*=2]Undergraduate Statistics and Nursing Research Class
    [*=2]3 Professional References (One Must Be an MSN Prepared Nurse)
    [*=2]Goal Statement
    [*=2]Transcripts from all universities you have ever attended
    [*=2]Resume or Curriculum Vitae.

Paper-Work to Be Aware of:


    [*=2]Online Application Form
    [*=2]Transcript Request Form
    [*=2]Goal Statement (Information about yourself as a professional, as long as what program you are applying for and what you hope to do with the degree. Why do you want to become a nurse practitioner? How will it impact your life?)
    [*=2]3 Professional References
    [*=2]Curriculum Vitae or Resume
    [*=2]Syllabus and Course Catalog (with web address) of both of your undergraduate Statistics and Nursing Research Class
    [*=2]Practicum/Clinical Site Form: This school wants you to identify 5 potential clinical sites for each of five clinical courses. They are not contracts and are not set in stone. They are merely there to provide incentive for RNs to begin looking independently.
    [*=2]FAFSA (Unless you are an international student.)
    [*=2]Student Loan Paperwork (If you are like me and will rely upon an unsubsidized student loan with a fixed interest rate).

Orientation to Online Classrooms:

If accepted into this program you must complete the online orientation class. It prepares you for where to find student resources (such as an online library which has most of your text-books), documents (lectures/powerpoints), student email, and technical support. It teaches you where your grades are stored and what will be expected of you in classes. To be seen as having good attendance/participation you are expected to contribute 4 times a week on 4 separate days. Contribution is defined as posting an assignment in the discussion, turning in an assignment, posting a question for the professor, and etc. If you do not make at least 2 contributions for 2 consecutive weeks, admissions will automatically boot you from the program.

Additionally, a student cannot score below 80% in any given class, without being on disqualified from the program. So, in other words, no Cs allowed.

As long as a student plays by these rules and actually puts forth effort (taking the program seriously), it seems that all will be well.

Another aspect of online education you should be aware of is that many essays and papers that will be written are going to be screened by anti-plagiarism software.

Admissions Review:

My admissions representative was outstanding and kept in touch with me every other day or via email. If she didn't have the answer to one of my questions, she would get back to me promptly. She was very patient but also helped motivate me to get things in ASAP so that I could begin in June. I finished Applying two and a half weeks before June 2nd and was around 10 days after I applied (just in time). June 2nd isn't a very popular start date. If you are applying in the Spring or Summer, keep in mind that you will face a lot more competition.

Your Admissions representative will stay in contact with you for the duration of your education.

Academic Counselor Review:

My academic adviser was very knowledgeable and helpful. I have had better luck contacting him via email than through phone, but it seems like that is the standard in an online environment. Like my Admissions rep, he has always been on time telephone appointments. He explained that his role was to register you for the correct classes and notify you asap when you are not meeting attendance/participation/grade requirements to stay in the program. He is also the middle-man between me and my professors. If for whatever reason, an instructor is not responding to me within the 24hrs time-frame they have to reply, I can call up my academic adviser. (It's 24hrs on a week-day and 48hrs on a holiday/weekend).

The program is typically one class at a time with classes ranging from 5 to 11.5 weeks.

My Academic Counselor told me that I could double up on my classes, as long as I had financial aid approve of it and the ability to succeed. After convincing him and being cleared by financial aid (I would just take out more of my loan than previously planned upon), I was rescheduled. So, I have officially doubled up the first two classes of the program, Role of the Advanced Practice Nurse and Advanced Pathophysiology.

Then I will take Advanced Theoretical Perspectives for Nursing on its own.

After that, I will double up Nursing Research Methods (an 11 week class) with Advanced Nursing Practice I and II.

Advanced health & Physical Assessment is the first course with a clinical requirement (80hrs). Every class after that (except Graduate Project in Nursing) has a clinical requirement of 180hrs.

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Tuition:

The first year of loans period I will be paying for range from 06/02/14 to 01/26/14 and will cost me approximately $16,530. I do not yet know what the rest of my classes from 04/13/15-11/30/15 will cost.

Okay that is all for now! Please post questions you have and I will do my best to answer them!!

So how is it going now? I am getting ready to start research tomorrow. I am a little apprehensive about clinical. How did you know what you were supposed to do?

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I am currently taking the Advanced Nursing Practice I course at South University. Our midterm exam is next week and I am terribly anxious and stressed about how to prepare for it. Do you have any tips? The facilitator does not offer a study guide.

Specializes in Geriatrics/family medicine.

that is my next class, thanks for asking this question

Hi,

I am looking at the ANCC and AANP websites for take the NP exams and I see the school must be CCNE or ACEN accredited. I just started with South last month and I know I signed a document that said South was seeking their CCNE for Post Master's Certificate in NP. Can anyone give me some insight?

I have been a student at SU Online for a few months and so far, the program has done nothing to prepare me for the role of Family Nurse Practitioner. I cannot imagine that wading through the Pathophysiology book haphazardly striving to divine the necessary from the extraneous is a reliable means of developing into a safe, conscientious practitioner. I can't imagine that, if the program proceeds as it has, that I will be the type of FNP that is adequately prepared to deliver adequate or appropriate care at the advanced practice level. The program does not have any instruction involved. There should definitely be some degree of actual input from the instructors as well as powerpoints and canned lectures, at the very least. As it is, they assign you readings and papers and set you off on your autonomous way. I do not foresee this program producing viable candidates. The B&M counterpart may be an entirely different story.

I ended up applying to Walden instead of this school. There were so many bad reviews and then I had a bad experience just trying to apply! I had downloaded the course catalog, submitted my application and goal statement. Had my transcript set. After the advisor kept giving me different prices on the tuition...I was ready to get started. I had a gpa of 2.76. The catalog provided said this was acceptable. After all this paperwork and back and 4th stuff the advisor contacted me and said I couldn't do the rn - msn because I needed a gpa of 3.0 so I would have to do the rn-bsn program then apply to msn. I told her that on pg. So an so paragraph 4 states u can have a 2.5! She says "my apologies...our catalog is outdated." Seriously? I've been studying this catalog andthe info is wrong? And u want me to sign what? No thx! Now I've been at Walden since June. Loving it. Glad I did it!

How does the program at Walden work? Is it expensive? I get so little feedback or input from the faculty at South it is like I am going to school in a library. I almost signed up at Walden too but I think it was more expensive.

How does the program at Walden work? Is it expensive? I get so little feedback or input from the faculty at South it is like I am going to school in a library. I almost signed up at Walden too but I think it was more expensive.

I think it is more expensive but from looking at the reviews here it seems a little better. The weekly posts are the same and then u do essays but not every week. The teachers interact with your discussion posts by providing support or asking questuons and r there to help u when u need it. We have a syllabus and u can interact with all the students in your class via email if u wish. I have had a few tests and some quizzes but the tests were in non nursing classes (had to take some prereqs.) So far in the nursing classes I've had 1 quiz (starting my 2nd nursing class this week). I no there is 1 quiz in this class I'm starting also. We have videos that we watch where health care providers speak on the content for the week. It is still mainly reading and writing. The teachers give u rubrics that pretty much tell u what they want. I learn best by researching material and then writing about it so I am liking it. The teachers give u comments on all your essays and posts in regards to your grading. So far for my 1st 4 mths I am happy. Honestly though I've read a lot of comments from NPs who say NP programs are mainly theory and fluff. Some say they wish they'd gone the medical or PA track because you learn more medical stuff vs. theory.

Thanx smiley. I have a friend that is studying for her NP exam after finishing the program. She says she doesn't feel like she learned anything in the whole 2 years. It is another school though, so maybe this is just the way the nurse practitioner programs go. She went to a B&M school so it seems to be endemic across the board.

I understand many of the frustrations people have had with SU. I am in my 7th class of the FNP program. The instructors, for the most part, provide little instruction. The program requires a lot of self motivation to actually learn what you need to. The program has implemented tests and quizzes in many of the classes that didn't previously have one. This only adds a little more accountability to the students because it is possible to skate by with an A in the class even with subpar grades on the quizzes. Pathophysiology is a course where you can make the choice to study everything and actively choose to learn everything you can, or you can do very little...its up to you. Pharmacology appears to be the same way....quizzes and case studies each week but it is possible to pass by doing the bare minimum. This is going to be the case for any online program. Because it is online, there is only so much accountability the school can provide. The rest is up to the students to be motivated enough to want to learn and become excellent NPs. Some classes are fluff, but that's true in all programs because the coursework is required to be CCNE accredited.

Thanx Rod. A lot of the problem I had with Patho is that there is an inordinate amount of biochemistry in the textbook that I frankly don't see translating into much practical usability. Trying to wade through that aspect of the material leaves me exhausted. I understand the requirements for the "fluff" content of the program, and I just bite the bullet and take the pill. It's part of what we sign up for. I had the same issue with my BSN and MSN programs and I still think nursing has a stick up its collective derriere about nursing theory and "science" a lot of the time. When it comes to advanced practice though, I think that there needs to be significantly more focus on the tangible, necessary preparation for candidates to deliver the goods to the public. This is, in the final analysis, a degree in nursing PRACTICE, not nursing theory or nursing research. I don't think doctors or physical therapists have anything like the percentage of fluff that nurses are subject to, and the woo factor just seems to be off the chart for nursing programs.

I'm with you on that. I wish there was less focus on theory and more on practice. Nursing is worried about this so-called theory-practice gap so they put an excessive amount of emphasis on the theory. This is precisely the reason I wont be going for my DNP any time soon. Its all theory and no practice. If they develop a doctorate that actually prepares you to be a clinical practice expert then I'd be the first candidate for the degree. I have found myself wondering if PA coursework has this much fluff. I doubt it. What I do know is that I'll be adequately prepared to take my NP exam and I'll feel qualified as a prescriber of medicine. I've only been in the program for just over 6 months and I have already learned so much. I have began to think like a prescriber and I find that every week I experience an "ah ha" moment. But this is because I am going after it like someone who is spending a lot of money on it....oh wait, I am spending a lot of money on it.

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