So fed up with my coworker

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Hello everyone! I used to post here last year when I was graduating nursing school but cant remember my screen name. You all helped me so much, I was hoping for some advice once again.

I work at a small hospital that only staffs around 10 RN's. We all bust our behinds working extra shifts due to being short staffed. Here is where my issue is. We have two as needed nurses who work to fill in holes in the schedule, but we are still short.

We have one as needed nurse however who isn't willing to work any shifts for anyone and it really irks me. I am work my three days but if I ever need a day off, she never agrees to cover, like ever. She works only a few times a month. She has 4 kids under 5 years old I think and she's always using that as an excuse not to work. It really puts all the rest of us in a bind when she refuses to cover.

I don't even know why my boss keeps her around honestly, you can tell she doesn't like being there even when she has a scheduled shift. We (all us full timers) talk about it all the time. What good is having as needed employees if they aren't pulling their weight when we're short? I do not get it. Its not fair, I want to be able not to work but unfortunately I have bills to pay. I asked her once why she doesn't pick up more shifts and she just said "because I don't have to", which is really rude in my opinion.

Another thing, she gives the boss the days SHE wants to work and the boss schedules us around that. She doesn't pick up weekends or holidays ever so I am really dreading my December schedule since the other as needed nurse is leaving in a few weeks.

I really want to bring it up with my boss. I don't think its fair at all, I just don't know how to approach the subject with her. Any thoughts? Would you tolerate this from a coworker?

I'm coming to the party late, and admittedly haven't read the whole thread.

Any PRN nurses- Why work in the first place if you only do a few days a month? Why not just stay home? I guess if I was rich enough to afford to work here and there, I wouldn't really see the point of it. (no snark intended, genuinely curious)

I work PRN precisely because I don't want to work very much- but I do want to work. I have bills to pay, and I enjoy the sense of purpose and professional growth that having a job provides. But make no mistake, it is not my job to take up the slack for administration not hiring enough benefitted employees.

The pros of being per diem are:

I don't have to work holidays.

I'm not tied to a regular schedule so I can arrange my work around my life instead of the other way around.

I don't have to ask for time off. I just say I'm not available to work when I don't want to work (and it's really none of anybody's business what my reasons are).

The cons of being per diem are:

I don't have the security of a regular schedule.

I'm not guaranteed any hours.

I'm the first to get called off for low census.

If I don't work, I don't get paid.

I don't get paid time off.

I don't get sick pay.

I don't get health insurance.

For me, the pros outweigh the cons. But make no mistake, it is because I have worked very hard to arrange my life in this way. Neither luck nor laziness have a thing to do with it.

Funny how people expect coworkers to cover their requested days off. Like she owes you. Sounds like the boss should hire another full time person. 😴

Specializes in Allergy/ENT, Occ Health, LTC/Skilled.

Lol oh geez, OP is making me laugh. Do me a favor OP, when you have a couple of kids of your own with that camping boyfriend of yours, come back to this thread, and insert foot in mouth.

I have three kids under 6 and am in school, I also work PRN. Does this mean neglect my SCHEDULED shifts because I use my children as an excuase? Hell no. Anything short of a hospitilization for my children, if I have accepted a shift, it is my responsibility to have a plan A and plan B in place for my kids.

HOWEVER, I am PRN which means I can work whenever I damn well want. I am required to work 2 times a month anything after that is bonus. I NEVER work holidays, I am not paid double time, so why would I? I usually only work Sundays, 2nd shift. That's what works best for my kids and my husband's schedule. Someome asked for me to work for them in the AM today, I had no idea who it was asking (random number through text) and I am going to a holiday event with my kids. So I said no and I do not feel bad because I am not REQUIRED to work anymore than beyond two shifts.

This poor nurse. She leaves her 4 kids at home to come to work and have some adult stimulating interaction. And all she gets is a catty millenial who need a reality check.

Specializes in Allergy/ENT, Occ Health, LTC/Skilled.

And whoever quoted daycare as a reason she is PRN is most likely spot on. If I had my three kids :1, 4, and 6 in fulltime daycare, before/after school care, it would be well over $2k/mo and I am in Ohio so I cant imagine what it costs elsewhere. Working PRN allows me to pocket more money because I can have family help than if I were to work fulltime with daycare.

Specializes in ER, ICU/CCU, Open Heart OR Recovery, Etc.

Yes. Which is a great reason for working PRN. Having control over one's life, instead of being controlled and being pissed off about it.

No wonder she won't socialize. The hostility and judgment comes across pretty heavily even in text.

I am planning on returning to the profession after a number of years away, and it's likely I will work PRN for a number of reasons. I promise if I ever run into this kind of thing, I will not ever pick up extra shifts. Period. That is if I stay at the facility at all.

Good grief. I thought some things would change while i was away. Looks like the hostility, judgment, and passive aggressive stuff is still alive and well. SMH.

Why otherwise intelligent and educated people cannot figure out where the fault lies (no pun intended), that being with management and NOT coworkers, is beyond me.

Specializes in Acute Care Pediatrics.

Oh, AN - your posts have warmed my PRN heart. ;)

I have actually encountered the OP in my real life! I was accused of basically not being worthwhile to the hospital, and taking up space with my position... and if I didn't have to work, I should quit in order for those who need the FT paycheck to have the hours.

I am PRN. My requirement is 24 hours in a schedule. I always work extra, because I *ENJOY* working. That being said? I can not always cover for people last minute. I had five people approach me to work for them last weekend. FIVE! I was out of town for the weekend. I didn't *not* work because I was just sitting around with my thumb up my butt, I was not at work because I wasn't SCHEDULED TO BE THERE.

If I can help out my fellow RNs, I absolutely do. I do not mind picking up a shift here or there.

However, I can definitely tell you that I am *always* busy when certain people ask me for help. ;)

Specializes in Hospice.

I've always worked full time, not because I just llooovvveee working so much that I didn't mind missing parties, weddings, funerals, my daughter's school events, etc, but because I was always the primary wage earner, and was told in no uncertain terms that I HAD to make a certain amount of money for us to live.

I was the full-timer everyone could count on to switch days, even last minute.

Until I noticed that none of those people were ever able to switch with ME.

I'm coming up on 4 decades of nursing. Trust me, when I hit 65 and don't have to stay full time to be eligible for employer health insurance, I WILL go PRN, and don't even think about expecting me to make your life easier.

Specializes in Behavioral Health.
I have actually encountered the OP in my real life! I was accused of basically not being worthwhile to the hospital, and taking up space with my position... and if I didn't have to work, I should quit in order for those who need the FT paycheck to have the hours.

I'm also PRN, and have gotten this speech. It's almost always from someone who asks me to cover their days off and feels like I must have a lot of free time, and somehow my low paycheck isn't adequate compensation for not working full time. I also need to be at the beck and call of my colleagues.

I have a great explanation for why I can't pick up (grad school), but it's immaterial. I'm obliged only to my boss for my hours. If I wanted more hours I'd sign up for more hours, and my coworkers (whom I respect greatly 90% of the time) can go pound sand if they think I owe them coverage. I'm not the "vacation coverage nurse."

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
I think our requirement for the as needed people is 1 shift a month. I guess I don't see the point of having those employees if they wont work when they're actually needed (like to cover a shift for a full time employee). We have to get coverage in order to use PTO, or we have to call off. I don't think the "well I have little kids" is a good excuse in the professional world. We all have things in life that are important. And its not even that she CANT cover, she just doesn't WANT to.

I have to work the day after Thanksgiving and I asked her to cover, and she hasn't responded yet. I just know the answer will be no and no one else is able to do it. They have valid reasons, being out of town. I know she will be in town because she was getting recipes from another nurse and was talking about having a big dinner at her house.

Just because someone is in town does not mean they are required to cover your shift. If she's working what she's contracted or obligated to work, then she's doing her part. Your anger is misplaced, and you sound a bit entitled.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
PRN does not at the request of FT employees. Shes meeting her responsibilities working ONE shift a month just not the shift you want covered. Why is hosting a big family dinner at home any less valid than a coworker that shows up to dinner the next town over? Did she sign up to work the day after thanksgiving? No, then working that shift is your responsibility not hers. Your anger and distaste are absolutely directed at the wrong entity. I'm sure your dislike for her & her schedule is very obvious. Quite frankly if you had that attitude towards me and talked about me with coworkers as you post here I would always decline to cover your scheduled shifts. . You get PTO a per diem does not. As a FT employee I make requests for time off needed not expecting a per diem I think so lowly of to cover when I decide I don't want to work.

Your understanding of the role of a per diem employee is clearly inaccurate. They are not there to cover your last minute requests to change shifts. Plan ahead. Yes small children is a valid reason to take a PRN instead of a FT job.

Years ago, one of my part time colleagues walked up to me where I was innocently sitting in the break room, eating my lunch.

"You need to work Christmas for me," she said. "I have a little kid and you have no life."

I might have worked Christmas for her if she had politely requested a switch. But after what she said to me, I vowed NEVER to switch with her EVER unless is was for my benefit. Furthermore, when I told my friends what she had said, they expressed the same vow.

I did work Christmas for someone that year -- someone ELSE. And the five friends who also came to the same NYE party also switched with someone ELSE. If you (not the poster to whom I'm replying, but to the collective "you") want to vastly decrease the pool of colleagues who will switch with you at any given time, continue to behave with as little class and as much entitlement as possible.

Just because someone is in town does not mean they are required to cover your shift. If she's working what she's contracted or obligated to work, then she's doing her part. Your anger is misplaced, and you sound a bit entitled.

OP sounds a LOT entitled!

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
I just wanted to clarify that I don't and haven't seen any of my friends treat her badly at work, or make her work environment toxic at all. I've asked her about the as needed gig many times just out of curiosity. She doesn't really click with anyone so when she works she mainly keeps to herself. I would never say anything bad about her or complain about her to her face. The only thing I can think of is asking her why she doesn't work often, and I really don't think that's an offensive question.

So you and your friends are sitting around gossiping about her at work and complaining that she won't cover any of your shifts for you. Do you suppose that doesn't get back to her at all? Don't you think that maybe just seeing you and your friends all gathered in the break room chattering away before the shift starts doesn't feel toxic to her given that she knows how much you all disrespect her? No wonder the poor woman doesn't "click" with anyone. You've all decided she's lazy based on your misunderstanding of her role.

And yes, under the circumstances, asking her why she doesn't work often IS an offensive questions.

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