Signed up for Med-Surg but feel like I am in ICU!!!!

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Desperately seeking advice. I am a new RN and started on a Med-Surg floor that is extremely high acuity and bariatric. As new orientees, were promised "hand-holding", shadowing, and "support" from charges and floor nurses to gain the skills necessary to do our jobs. Well, two weeks of shadowing, I was told I am off of orientation and on my own. I am feeling completely overwhelmed. The patients acuity is that of an ICU - I am up to 5 patients on my own. We were told we would be getting the skills to organize our time - it is almost a joke. I never made it to the bathroom, ate, drank one thing my entire shift and feel self-propelled by people needing pain meds, ivs infiltrating, pca pumps alarming, wound vac monitoring, dressing changes, new admits, antibiotics that need to be hung, TPN going up, loading feed bags, pages and pages of meds per patient, bladder scans, bp's bottoming out of going out of control, temps going up.... The acuity level of these patients is too high and two weeks training is not enough. I am walking into rooms needing skills that I don't have and I am supposed to find someone with time to show me a skill. I sought out my charge nurse 4 times yesterday for help and she said that she would get to me, she was really busy but never did so I resorted to finding other nurses. My one patients pump malfunctioned..he was critically ill, had hal, lipids, zosyn, lopresser, ringers, ns, dilaudid all hanging at the same time. I feel completely overwhelmed and not prepared to keep up, let alone do right by my patients and last, but not least, protect my license. I am having nightmares at night and wake up in the morning absolutely dreading going into work. When the alarm goes off, I think it is someone's pump beeping. Please tell me if this is expected because I am new or if I am expecting too much!!!! (I am now 3 weeks in...)

BTW...I am not talking about COPD, CHF or appys like in my clinical experience. Here are some "typical" diagnosis....s/p cholecystectomy drain placement - jejunostomy, entercutaneous fistula takedown w/small bowel resection, lap nephrectomy, s/p r groin squamous cell tumor resection, enterocuaneous fistula - feculant aed, intususeption, retroperitaneal absess, s/p duodenal switch w/gastric leak, s/p anterior rectal colostomy, s/p lap sigmoidectomy, p laminectomy syndrome, s/p hemicolectomy...to name a few.

I had a 6 weeks of orientation in all. I felt like I was ok by the end of the whole thing. First night I was out, I had a guy start to crash and I didn't know what to do, but I knew to ask for help. This place sounds like a zoo. I wouldn't want to work there at all. I'm sorry about everything you are going through and I would talk to the management to see if you can leave. If you feel like you can't do it because of the lack of training, you are putting you and your licence at risk. That is not right. You worked too hard! Run! If the management on the floor won't help, go up the chain. So, what if you step on toes. This might prevent someone else being in this position. :)

Wow, I would be very scared too! I would definitely be looking for another job if I were you. That is not enough training.:angryfire

Two weeks of shadowing is not an appropriate way to acclimate a new grad to the work environment on any unit. By shadowing I believe you mean that you were basically paired with another nurse for two weeks. Optimally during orientation the goal is to have the newbie be able to function with a full patient load by the time they are done. It should involve continual evaluation throughout the process as the newbie advances. Two weeks of shadowing is not going to cut it. Sorry ExTechie, but this facility has been neglectful towards you in this area. Eight to twelve weeks minimally, on the floor, properly precepted, and I don't mean just shadowing.

6 additional weeks sitting in a classroom learning about hospital policy, advance directives, paperwork stuff, policies and procecures, protocols, etc.

I'm actually not against this part here. I've seen how much of hinderance it can be for any new employee to not be properly trained in these areas. Every health care facilty seems to have different way to do almost everything. From paper work to policies and procedures, from computer systems/programs to protocols, from equipment to what UAP/ancillary staff jobs entail, etc, etc. Nothing is more frustrating to a new employee than trying to learn these intricacies or look up policies and procedures or protocols while trying to take care of their patients at the same time.:madface: Most facilities, IMO, tend to be grossly inadequate in preparing new employees in these areas. In your situation, ExTechie, six weeks may have been a little excessive in this area.

Even what is expected of nursing staff varies from facility, for example: in one facility something may fall into the domain of the unit clerk and yet that same thing may be the nurse's responsibility at another facility. The role of the Charge nurse can vary from facility to facilty, from the charge having a reduced to full patient load to no patient load, which means that the charge nurse may not necessarily even be close to an adequate resource for a new employee.

I'm also against the absurd notion that even after proper orientation that new grads should be considered just as capable of functioning like an experienced nurse when it comes to staffing. Well, didn't school teach them to be a nurse and provide them with the skills to function in that capacity? That's what happens, new grads finish orientation and staffing counts them as if they possess the same ability to function as they would experienced staff. Education provided the foundation on which new grads will base their practice on, however it cannot provide the experiential knowledge necessary to function at the same level as their tenured colleagues. Even after 15 years as a nurse I can say with all honesty, that even I do not know it all and will still come across situations where even I require the expertise of another who possesses knowledge/skills that I do not. This situation is much worse for a new nurse.

There is an attitude and expectation that the charge nurse or other experienced staff mentor newbies through their difficulties, yet at the same time this ability to mentor is often greatly hindered, especially when units are understaffed, have high ratios and/or are high acuity. Sorry, IT'S WRONG. It's a huge disservice and danger to the patients, the new nurses and the experienced nurses.:angryfire I've been Charge, with a full patient load, 3 new grads just off orientation, and 1 agency nurse. Guess who's patients probably didn't receive the care they should have? Guess who was constantly interrupted with requests for help or questions? Guess who was lucky that none of her patients took a turn for the worse? Guess who was lucky none of the patients assigned to the newbies took a turn for the worse? Guess who was lucky none of her patient's complained about her personally on Press Ganey? Guess who had very little hair left at the end of that shift?:uhoh3: I'm willing to bet the 3 new grads that night also had it pretty rough since their "resource" was very limited in her ability to adequately mentor them.

Is it any wonder that as many as 50% of new nurses leave their first job before they've completed 2 years on their first job, and as many as 20% leave before their first year. New grads are at the most risk for burnout. Nightmares, not a good sign ExTechie. Absolutely discuss the situation and how you feel with your supervisor. If this facility will not offer what you need as a new nurse, than you may want to consider looking elsewhere.

Specializes in geriatrics, telemetry, ICU, admin.

Hi!

As I have said, if you don't enjoy doing what you are doing, find a nursing slot that you enjoy. And as has already been said, this place is dangerous-- get out.

Specializes in Med-Surg/Oncology/Telemetry/ICU.

OMG!! I'm always stressed out before I even get in the door (just had my 2nd night of work on my own after 3 1/2 weeks orientation--which I didn't feel was enough!) and I can't even imagine what you're describing.

I would be an absolute basket case if I were you!! LEAVE THAT HORRIBLE PLACE!!!:o

if you are considering leaving your job (and you should!), you could always write, "accepting assignment under duress/protest".

give it to the cn or nm.

make sure you have a copy for yourself.

this way, you'd never be charged for abandonment, for refusing an assignment.

but before you resort to writing a protest slip, make sure you have clearly communicated your lack of training in feeling unable to deliver safe care to your pts.

any of your verbalized concerns, should be followed with a written concern.

i truly wish you well.

not all orientations are this dreadful.

leslie

Update:

I spoke with my clinical trainer (responsible for orientation) before I went to work yesterday and told her what my night before had been like and that the level of acuity is too high for me...(based on the training I have received thus far). She said she was glad I called and would look into it and would make some adjustments. When I went into work, she came up to me and apologized. She said that my assignment the night before was too much for me...I was assigned 4 level 3 patients and a fresh post-op (level 3) which was an assignment that should have gone to a more experienced nurse. (Recap...5 level 3 pts after only moving up to 5 pts on my own for a period of 3 days!!!) She said that she would give me several more days with a preceptor and she hopes that I hang in there. I am meeting with my first year clinical instructor today to get her opinion since she knows my skillset and the hospital for additional advice. I have never been a quitter and am torn between toughing it out and running!!!!!

Thank you for the thoughtful advice and for your support - I sincerely appreciate it!!!

Specializes in ortho/neuro/general surgery.
Let me clarify that....two weeks of shadowing on the floor. 6 additional weeks sitting in a classroom learning about hospital policy, advance directives, paperwork stuff, policies and procecures, protocols, etc.

6 freakin' weeks on paperwork crud? 2 weeks orientation? For cryin' out loud, that's frickin' ridiculous. :angryfire:uhoh3::angryfire:uhoh3::angryfire

If you're able, find a new job, let 'em know why and maybe let the BON know how little orientation you got.

There's no excuse for more experienced nurses to not help a rookie that has a question or has never done a certain ordered treatment/procedure or worked a piece of equipment before. I'm glad I've never experienced that.

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