The author, a doctor, makes the case that in our climate of daily random violence and desperate drug addicts, a doctor would be wise to have a gun in his office. He brings up the example of emergency rooms having metal detectors and bullet proof glass because shootings have actually occurred there. So he asks:
Would you not see a doctor if you knew he had a gun in his office?
To those who would fear ....... I ask you this, why would a doctor having a gun bother you? Do you live in fear that your physician is trying to kill you? I mean if he really wanted you dead, he could stab you with a scalpel or inject you with something lethal. He could do so with the tools of his profession in a much more efficient manner than with a gun.
I carry my gun like I carry my cell phone. EVERYWHERE.
It's not an ego issue or because I hangout with a sleazy crowd. It's because there are dangerous people out there and I feel just a bit safer knowing that I am just as much danger to them as they are to me.
I'll admit, I have never had to pull it out, but I have had several instances where showing that I had it was sufficient to end the situation. In fact, the last time I showed it 3 guys were trying to 'jump' my brother. Granted, my brother IS sleazy and he most likely deserved the beat down coming his way AND he probably caused the entire situation. He is, however, my brother. I tried to talk them out of it and was unsuccessful. I was told to beat it or I'd get it to. A quick show of the shoulder holster and the Baby Desert Eagle in it sent them packing.
I guess that's just ego driven, alpha male nonsense though.
That quoted someone used earlier is DEAD ON. An armed society is a polite society.
Now it IS a PITA whenever you get pulled over or a cop sees it though. When they see it or you tell them you have it as required by the law they always freak out and get a tight ole grip on their gun. It's always tense. I've had one that saw it and ran up on me with HIS gun out. That was a bit scary.
1Tulip...I didn't want to copy and past your entire post, but I will answer your question.
When you shouldn't carry it?
Into and out of work...I know you stated you didn't see this is your company policy, but if you called HR, I can guarantee you that it's in there.
Into and out of a school or church...if you have children in school..this is a felony in most areas...licensed or not.
When you SHOULD carry it?
Keep it in your vehicle 24/7 (this is where I keep mine).
Take it out....
If you stop for gas in the middle of the night....but you will run the risk of blowing yourself up if you discharge it while pumping gas...and I'm dead serious on that.
If you live in an area of town or in a major city where you are leaving your home at odd hours and are alone on a street.
Anytime your car breaks down.
If you are traveling to a city where you are not sure where the "good" vs "bad" neighborhoods are.
If someone has ever been the victim of a RANDOM violent crime...if you talk to the police, they are very rare instances. That means you were not targeted for any particular reason...it had nothing to do with a new friend, husband, your lifestyle..nothing..you just got picked out of the blue...very rare...especially if you do the basics to protect yourself.
You may work in a hospital where security isn't able to escort every female to their car, but I bet you could find a couple of other ladies leaving about the same time...create a system to watch out for each other until you are in the car AND it's locked...of course..always check the backseat with a penlight before getting in...not sitting in your car, getting out your cell phone, etc...pull out immediately.
However, if you have an intense level of fear every time you leave the house (I'm not saying YOU personally, just in general) b/c of past experience of a violent crime...then that is a symptom of not being able to move on with your life.
He is, however, my brother. I tried to talk them out of it and was unsuccessful. I was told to beat it or I'd get it to. A quick show of the shoulder holster and the Baby Desert Eagle in it sent them packing..
Check with your state laws on this...b/c you could have easily ended up in jail.
True story about one of my classmates:
We had a situation in our County where a man was asleep in his home, with his wife and 6 year old child.
He heard something downstairs, got his gun out of his bedside drawer (that he had a licensed to use and was a very experienced shot), he got to the bottom of the stairs and there was a man standing in his living room that had put tape over the downstairs window in order to silently break it out.
He pulled his gun...told the guy not to move. He has NO IDEA of who this guy was.
He yelled for his wife to call 911.
He told the guy to slowly sit down in the floor and not to move. He flat out told him...if you take one quick step, I won't think twice about unloading the gun.
He held the gun on the guy until the police arrived.
The police got in...the homeowner lowered his weapon and handed it to an officer that approached him.
They were BOTH handcuffed and sequestered...telling the officers their stories.
The man that broke into his house had a prior record of burglary and sexual assault and was out on parole.
Guess how many people went to jail that night?
2...you read that right...TWO.
The guy that broke into the house got charged...with the obvious.
The homeowner got charged with brandishing a firearm...which in my state, is not a LEGAL use of self defense unless the attacker has you cornered in a room or you are protecting someone from immediate grave danger.
In other words..the homeowner could have went back upstairs and locked the door...or if the suspect had made physical contact with his wife or child, he not only could have pulled out a gun, he could have legally killed him...but not before.
I don't agree with it either...but the DA was an idiot and the homeowner had to pay over $3,000 in attorney fees to opt for a jury trial...who obviously found him not guilty.
But he spent a night in jail and money because he tried to defend his family.
The case made the local paper...citizens were outraged...however, that is why you have to check with your state laws.
He was in more control than I would have been...I would have bypassed 911 and just called the morgue.
The homeowner got charged with brandishing a firearm...which in my state, is not a LEGAL use of self defense unless the attacker has you cornered in a room or you are protecting someone from immediate grave danger.
Nah, you gotta know AND understand your law.
Brandishing implies pulling out your gun and waving or pointing it at someone.
Merely letting someone know you have one is not a crime. It's as easy as removing your coat. The sight of the gun does all the work for you.
As to 'pulling' your gun. You, or someone else, has to be in IMMEDIATE danger. That means if a guy comes at you with a knife but is still say 20 feet away, you have a legal expectation to try and run. If you shoot them and they weren't close to you you go to jail.
You can't just live in a country oblivious to its laws. You have to actually know and understand them. All of them.
If you stop for gas in the middle of the night....but you will run the risk of blowing yourself up if you discharge it while pumping gas...and I'm dead serious on that.
This only gives more credibility to the fact that hollywood continues to brainwash the masses:bugeyes:. For a fire you need fuel, oxygen and an ignition source (heat, spark etc). The vapor pressure of the gas in a fuel tank is high enough that very little oxygen can get in the tank itself. Definitely not enough to cause an explosion. Even if Clint Eastwood himself shot a few holes into a gas guzzlin hippie enemy#1, the Hummer, it would still not explode. The ideal gas law (pV=nRT) actually explains it better, but you can read about that as I am not motivated enough to go into detail. People tend to learn better by visual aids. So, to entertain the nurses on this board I give you this.....
Nothing spells out family fun better than a cuppla rednecks, some .308 tracer rounds, an elephant gun, and a gas tank. All that is missing is some cheap whiskey and a dog with 3 legs.
Nothing spells out family fun better than a cuppla rednecks, some .308 tracer rounds, an elephant gun, and a gas tank. All that is missing is some cheap whiskey and a dog with 3 legs.
You don't know family fun if you have never carved out a pumpkin and filled it with gasoline and shot at it. Or inviting all your redneck friends and taken an old beater car and put several cans of tanks of gasoline inside and shot at it from 100 yards away. I guess i am outing myself as a Redneck.
Many states now have what is called the "Castle Doctrine" to address that very issue. In states that have adopted Castle laws, the homeowner is legally protected from both showing and firing their firearm on persons who are not authorized to be there.
Check with your state laws on this...b/c you could have easily ended up in jail.
True story about one of my classmates:
We had a situation in our County where a man was asleep in his home, with his wife and 6 year old child.
He heard something downstairs, got his gun out of his bedside drawer (that he had a licensed to use and was a very experienced shot), he got to the bottom of the stairs and there was a man standing in his living room that had put tape over the downstairs window in order to silently break it out.
He pulled his gun...told the guy not to move. He has NO IDEA of who this guy was.
He yelled for his wife to call 911.
He told the guy to slowly sit down in the floor and not to move. He flat out told him...if you take one quick step, I won't think twice about unloading the gun.
He held the gun on the guy until the police arrived.
The police got in...the homeowner lowered his weapon and handed it to an officer that approached him.
They were BOTH handcuffed and sequestered...telling the officers their stories.
The man that broke into his house had a prior record of burglary and sexual assault and was out on parole.
Guess how many people went to jail that night?
2...you read that right...TWO.
The guy that broke into the house got charged...with the obvious.
The homeowner got charged with brandishing a firearm...which in my state, is not a LEGAL use of self defense unless the attacker has you cornered in a room or you are protecting someone from immediate grave danger.
In other words..the homeowner could have went back upstairs and locked the door...or if the suspect had made physical contact with his wife or child, he not only could have pulled out a gun, he could have legally killed him...but not before.
I don't agree with it either...but the DA was an idiot and the homeowner had to pay over $3,000 in attorney fees to opt for a jury trial...who obviously found him not guilty.
But he spent a night in jail and money because he tried to defend his family.
The case made the local paper...citizens were outraged...however, that is why you have to check with your state laws.
He was in more control than I would have been...I would have bypassed 911 and just called the morgue.
... So why all the signs at the pumps telling you not to use your cell while pumping gas due to danger of the same?
This only gives more credibility to the fact that hollywood continues to brainwash the masses:bugeyes:. For a fire you need fuel, oxygen and an ignition source (heat, spark etc). The vapor pressure of the gas in a fuel tank is high enough that very little oxygen can get in the tank itself. Definitely not enough to cause an explosion. Even if Clint Eastwood himself shot a few holes into a gas guzzlin hippie enemy#1, the Hummer, it would still not explode. The ideal gas law (pV=nRT) actually explains it better, but you can read about that as I am not motivated enough to go into detail. People tend to learn better by visual aids. So, to entertain the nurses on this board I give you this.....
Nothing spells out family fun better than a cuppla rednecks, some .308 tracer rounds, an elephant gun, and a gas tank. All that is missing is some cheap whiskey and a dog with 3 legs.
Discharges of electricity CAN start fires at gas stations. It, however, is NOT igniting gasoline. Gasoline in and of itself does not explode. Gasoline vapors do.
This phenomenon is VERY rare though and it would take a 'perfect storm' of favorable conditions to do it. Even when they try to duplicate it in experiments they usually fail.
... So why all the signs at the pumps telling you not to use your cell while pumping gas due to danger of the same?
Cell phone thing has been debunked too. Don't know why the signs are there, but I bet it could be traced back to a trial lawyer:D I guess if you were doing the Zoolander thing (spraying gas all over your buddies) and your cell phone was shootin' out sparks it might be a problem.....
Actually, I have never noticed the sign that says no cellphone use. Then again, I don't pay to much attention to the warnings on the gas pump as I am usually concentrating on finishing off my pack of camel no filters while fillin' up the tank.
LOL No- I'm not a guy. I just prefer having mine a bit closer access. I also prefer not to carry in a seperate bag because it's far easier for someone to steal a purse (or to forget it somewhere) than it is to take one out of a concealed shoulder holster under my blazer. :)
Yeah, having it snatched was for sure one of the cons we weighed with the pros. I just could not make other holsters work. Different seasons, different wardrobes, dress up, dress down... You know how little old ladies get with their handbags, even to where they keep them in bed with them in the hospital and freak if you try to move it to change linen. Yeah, I'm totally there.
Cell phone thing has been debunked too. Don't know why the signs are there, but I bet it could be traced back to a trial lawyer:D I guess if you were doing the Zoolander thing (spraying gas all over your buddies) and your cell phone was shootin' out sparks it might be a problem.....
Actually the cell phone effect WAS reproduced. The only problem is that current cell phones simply don't produce enough of a charge to ignite the vapors while older cell phones, early 90s and before, could.
Mythbusters is a funny show but umm... Maybe people should research MULTIPLE sources.
? How did we get on this subject? Oh, hehehe. I bet a gun discharging would be safer than a tazer! :)
Atheos
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I carry my gun like I carry my cell phone. EVERYWHERE.
It's not an ego issue or because I hangout with a sleazy crowd. It's because there are dangerous people out there and I feel just a bit safer knowing that I am just as much danger to them as they are to me.
I'll admit, I have never had to pull it out, but I have had several instances where showing that I had it was sufficient to end the situation. In fact, the last time I showed it 3 guys were trying to 'jump' my brother. Granted, my brother IS sleazy and he most likely deserved the beat down coming his way AND he probably caused the entire situation. He is, however, my brother. I tried to talk them out of it and was unsuccessful. I was told to beat it or I'd get it to. A quick show of the shoulder holster and the Baby Desert Eagle in it sent them packing.
I guess that's just ego driven, alpha male nonsense though.
That quoted someone used earlier is DEAD ON. An armed society is a polite society.
Now it IS a PITA whenever you get pulled over or a cop sees it though. When they see it or you tell them you have it as required by the law they always freak out and get a tight ole grip on their gun. It's always tense. I've had one that saw it and ran up on me with HIS gun out. That was a bit scary.