Shift times

[Avie]

The NHS Trust I am employed by has recently decided to alter the times of the shifts for no good reason that I can see.

Early shifts are now 07.00-14.30, Lates are 12.30-20.00 and Nights are 19.30-07.30 and these changes are causing all sorts of difficulties from childcare provision through to the timing of the drug rounds.

I was wondering what shift times other people work and what the average cross-over time exists between one shift and the next.

Any imformation would be useful as my union (UNISON) is looking into the issue.

[madwife2002, BSN, RN]

Shift time vary where we work

07.30-15.00

13.30-21.00

20.45-07.45

long days 07.30-21.00

another shift is 10.00-1900

somebody does 9.30-17.00

Nothing is set in stone

[papawjohn]

Hey Y'all

Pardon me if I risk hi-jacking the thread but I am curious. If y'all have these nurses coming and going at all the different times of the day--how do you make Pt assignments, give reports, etc.

Here in the US of by God A () the coming and going of shifts is usually almost like an 'auto de fey' with the whole 'new' shift arriving and gathering papers, coffee and equipt while the 'old' shift scurries about finishing their I & Os and the last of the charting. Quite ritualistic really.

It's hard for me to think outside that, I guess. What happens over in the 'old country'?

Thanx

Papaw John

[jax]

early 0700 - 1530

late 1300 - 2130

night 2100 - 0730

team leader on early does 0600 - 1430

one person does a 1430 - 2300 shift

Sorry, just realised this was in the UK thread, the above information is what we do where i work in Australia.

[1Tulip]

Hey Y'all

Pardon me if I risk hi-jacking the thread but I am curious. If y'all have these nurses coming and going at all the different times of the day--how do you make Pt assignments, give reports, etc.

Here in the US of by God A () the coming and going of shifts is usually almost like an 'auto de fey' with the whole 'new' shift arriving and gathering papers, coffee and equipt while the 'old' shift scurries about finishing their I & Os and the last of the charting. Quite ritualistic really.

It's hard for me to think outside that, I guess. What happens over in the 'old country'?

Thanx

Papaw John

Hey PaPawJohn,

At the ER where I hope to be working soon... also in the US-of-b'Gawd-A... they're way flexible. Probably more possible in an ER than on a unit. The thing I admire about the (very talented) nurse manager and the nurses that work there is that they all sort of work it out, co-operatively and organically. I think it's a reflection on the team-ness that ER staff has. Very supportive of one another. One hand washes the other... you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours... that sort of thing.

[madwife2002, BSN, RN]

early 0700 - 1530

late 1300 - 2130

night 2100 - 0730

team leader on early does 0600 - 1430

one person does a 1430 - 2300 shift

Sorry, just realised this was in the UK thread, the above information is what we do where i work in Australia.

These shifts are very similar to the Uk shifts.

We do manage well with our strange shift patterns but it relys on the co-ordinator giving handover to individuals sometimes, but it is amazing how quickly you can get in habit of doing that and it is geared towards time of day. So 10 am start wuld be different to 7.30 as in a lot of the morning routines have been started or done. Also it means break times are more evenly spread. Handovers can be long rictualistic events which really do not need to be so long. It should be about giving information that is vital to that patient and plan for the day.

We used to read out every little bit of information on each patient, why? The abnormal should be pointed out and the normal when a pt who had been unwell is now stable but not ob's on all patients.

[wannabeE.R.RN]

Hi,

just thought i would add in our shift times (Emergency Dept UK), the widest & sometimes most frustrating that i have come across.

07:45-13:00

07:45-14:00

07:45-15:30

07:45-17:30

07:45-20:30

13:00-20:30

14:00-20:30

17:30-20:30

07:45-14:00 then 17:30-20:30

20:30-07:45

It allows flexiblity but can also be a nightmare have to work a 3hr shift, wastes an entire day.

Anyone offer suggestions or opinions on a 3 shift system, i've seen a few on US web site?

[Karen30]

Our shift times are currently:

Early: 0700-1500

Late: 1330- 2130

Night: 2100-0730

Long Day: 0700-2130

There are proposals for new shift changes at our trust which will be as follows:

Early: 0715-1515

Late: 1215-2015

Night: 2000-0730

Long Day: 0715-2015

[karenG]

Our shift times are currently:

Early: 0700-1500

Late: 1330- 2130

Night: 2100-0730

Long Day: 0700-2130

There are proposals for new shift changes at our trust which will be as follows:

Early: 0715-1515

Late: 1215-2015

Night: 2000-0730

Long Day: 0715-2015

:rotfl:

those are the shift times I worked as a student and newly qualified nurse back in the dark ages!! they actually worked really well... honest!

Karen

[Karen30]

:rotfl:

those are the shift times I worked as a student and newly qualified nurse back in the dark ages!! they actually worked really well... honest!

Karen

I'm sure they did, the only problem is we don't have enough staff to cover the nights shifts, which means we may be required to work nights and days within the same week.

[madwife2002, BSN, RN]

We dont have enough staff to cover nights i think as nurses we really dont wanna work nights any more lol:D

[talaxandra]

Another Aussie - like Jax, we work:

AM 0700 - 1530

PM 1300 - 2130

ND 2100 - 0730

Unit managers set their own hours, but generally work 0800 - 1630

A friend of mine works in SA, where they have:

AM 0700 - 1530

PM 1500 - 2230

ND 2200 - 0730

She quite often works days and nights in the same week, and says it's beyond exhausting.

I would like to say that I can't believe they didn't give a rationale for changing the times, or consult with staff, but sadly I've seen these kinds of major changes implemented myself.