SEC assessment ? A JOKE !!

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One of my friend told me he has to go for SEC ( 2x subjects ) and he has 4 yrs experience. The other friend preparing for FEB CRNE exam and she has no experience , just graduated. Does it make sense ?? Does anybody know how do they access IEN application ? Any feedback.

Thanks for the insiders information. Educators in the US also make a fraction of what a bedside nurse does, it that why is in some countries they can only hire nurses with no experience.

I think Canada is right, I think Americans should adopt a similar program. Every nurse should be a safe practitioner.

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I never claimed to be a math major or maybe it was a typo!

Nursing education in Canada requires 16 years of education (not 14).

did I hit the submit button too soon??--oh well...I figured out how to edit!

That's for RN.

PN's require 14. Two years at college and grade 12.

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13yrs in BC.. You can be a licensed practical nurse here with just one year of education after grade 12.

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just to refer to the original question again, as posted as well in the international section, I've just done my focused assessment. It's not a joke, it's fair and I think a good way to estimate a nurses equivalency in knowledge/critical thinking skills, and indirect language ability.

I don't feel bad about it, and it also gives you a better idea about nursing in Canada.

5cats

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13yrs in BC.. You can be a licensed practical nurse here with just one year of education after grade 12.

The future of the PN is the two year diploma as is in place in Alberta and Ontario. Basically, these provinces have incorporated the education of the two year RN diploma into their PN programmes. The skills and scopes of practice in these provinces are very close. PNs are now required to complete first year Arts transfer courses in AB. I'm sure Lori or Linzz will tell us what Ontario is doing now.

PNs educated in BC have in previous years, have only been issued with restricted practice permits until their educational gaps were upgraded to meet the standards of their new province. The physical assessment courses taught are different. The one I took was more in depth than BCs.

I've worked in BC and I noticed the difference in my education and those around me. We were trained to be more independent, more of a patient advocate, to do more than just the "skills".

I'm not sure how BC LPNs will be evaluated by the Colleges in Alberta and Ontario now.

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You have made some very good points Fiona59.

The future of the PN is the two year diploma as is in place in Alberta and Ontario.

I am so in agreement with this but neither the CLPNBC nor the government of BC wants a longer education period because of the demand to turn out LPN's into the system, very quickly.

Interestingly, the BC schools have to prepare graduates to meet the same competency set that they use in Alberta and they write the same licensing exam and pass at the rate of the national average all with one year less of education which only points out that the licensing exam tests the minimum level of competency.

I suspect however, that the ability of the BC practitioner is limited when first employed and a lot of their expertise is gained on the job.

I think we have taken this a bit off topic but it is interesting and we have a lot of work to do on these issues sand especially here in BC.

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just to refer to the original question again, as posted as well in the international section, I've just done my focused assessment. It's not a joke, it's fair and I think a good way to estimate a nurses equivalency in knowledge/critical thinking skills, and indirect language ability.

I don't feel bad about it, and it also gives you a better idea about nursing in Canada.

Do you have your results already?

Some others have posted that it will take several weeks to get the results.

You sound very confident though.................

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Nope it takes several weeks, and the decision is with SRNA.

For me it went well, that doesn't mean it was good enough, don't know yet.

5cats

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Thanks for the insiders information. Educators in the US also make a fraction of what a bedside nurse does, it that why is in some countries they can only hire nurses with no experience.

I didn't mean to imply that they make more than I do an annual basis. Thankfully university professors make more than a registered nurse at the top of the wage scale. Of course I am grossly underpaid.............but I digress!

The registered nurse has the opportunity to earn overtime and I do not. When you make $30/hr your over time at time and half or double time really adds up quickly, especially if you work twelve hours shifts!

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Well that is better then the USA where educators make 1/3 to 1/2 of what hospital based nurse makes annualized.

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We belong to a labor union. It makes a big difference.

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Hello all, this is my first blog and this particular topic was the biggest reason for my joining in. I think what this boils down to, is the commitment that a person is willing to make to do the job right. If an IEN wants to practice nursing in a province that requires the SEC, then there's no two ways about it. The regulating bodies are not about to change their rules because some IEN's find them difficult to comply with. And, with all due respect, if one is unwilling, then one should just keep on walking.

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