Scripps Encinitas first decertification campaign last summer was unsuccessful on the surface. Perseverance paid off as the nurses in favor of decertification continued their campaign. The CNA in their attempt to head off this growing wave of discontent for unionization only stumbled, angering and alienating what few supporters they had left.
Seeing that they might lose a decertification for the first time in many, many years the CNA decided to accept Scripps managements first offer, the offer that they proposed to the nurses before the initial vote to unionize. The CNA negotiated nothing for the Scripps nurses. All the hard feelings, all the lost friendships all that anger for nothing.
It must be noted that in the CNA managed election last week, the ballots had two choices:
1. Yes, accept the contract.
2. No, do not accept the contract and strike
So, the nurses decided by 75% not to strike. The CNA did not give them a choice not to accept the contract and NOT strike.
Why not that third choice?
In the end the the professional nurses of Scripps Encinitas won big and the CNA must count this as a dismal failure on their part. Scripps Encinitas is an open shop. No union security clause! The nurses do not have to become union members and they do not have to pay dues. There is a no strike clause for two years. The decertification drive continues.
Congratulations Scripps Encinitas!
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But wait! If non union people banded together to get better pay............... wouldn't that be......... Gasp! ........ A union?
Cute:D :chuckle
But the difference is the nurses would be banding together and standing up for themselves, all by themselves, without a union, without paying dues to someone ELSE to represent them.
But the difference is the nurses would be banding together and standing up for themselves, all by themselves, without a union, without paying dues to someone ELSE to represent them.
steph
Correct.
A 'union' takes on a life of its own. Its 'interests' are not necessarily the same interests as its members. In many cases, it's no better being thrown to the 'sharks' of unions than it is to be thrown to the 'sharks' of management.
Take CNA's aggresive policy of seeking the termination of those that don't pay dues. Talk about standing up for nurses. Not! Tell me that doesn't mean that the union isn't just another layer of control, commanding a higher seat at the table than those they supposedly represent.
All I can say is WOW! if I only lived a little closer I could work there and earn the big bucks that these nurses deserve. I've been watching the strikes on tv and rooting for them. Glad its all over for them.
CNA chief negotiator Diane Hirsch-Garcia said that the higher pay level for nurses should help with recruitment and retention of nurses at Scripps Encinitas. . .
the new contract would provide for nurses at the hospital to earn the same pay as non-unionized nurses earn at other Scripps medical facilities in the county."
So, let me get this right: CNA negotiates for 2.5 yrs, facing down a decertification vote over their ineffective representation, and their final contract is . . . THE SAME PAY AS NON-UNIONIZED NURSES.
And THIS is a union victory?
Wow.
Its a good thing that CNA was there, or else, who knows how many more years it would have taken for union wages to catch up w/ non-union wages?
CNA chief negotiator Diane Hirsch-Garcia said that the higher pay level for nurses should help with recruitment and retention of nurses at Scripps Encinitas. . .
the new contract would provide for nurses at the hospital to earn the same pay as non-unionized nurses earn at other Scripps medical facilities in the county."
So, let me get this right: CNA negotiates for 2.5 yrs, facing down a decertification vote over their ineffective representation, and their final contract is . . . THE SAME PAY AS NON-UNIONIZED NURSES.
And THIS is a union victory?
Wow.
Its a good thing that CNA was there, or else, who knows how many more years it would have taken for union wages to catch up w/ non-union wages?
So, let me get this right: CNA negotiates for 2.5 yrs, facing down a decertification vote over their ineffective representation, and their final contract is . . . THE SAME PAY AS NON-UNIONIZED NURSES.
And THIS is a union victory?
Did you read the entire article? Because you left out some important information.
Just because management claims they won't make more money than non-union nurses, doesn't mean that's actually the case. The article also states ...
"Pay increases would average 6 percent, although some long-term nurses would see their pay increase by up to 13.5 percent.
In addition, the contract calls for another 4 percent salary increase in April 2007. "
The San Diego area is notorious for the lowest pay in California. If veteran nurses got a 13.5 percent raise ... with an extra 4 percent next year ... that's pretty good compared with what non-union RN's get in SoCal.
Maybe the union could or should have done better but, considering the turmoil they've had at Scripps ... the union didn't do too bad here.
Did you read the entire article? Because you left out some important information.
Just because management claims they won't make more money than non-union nurses, doesn't mean that's actually the case. The article also states ...
"Pay increases would average 6 percent, although some long-term nurses would see their pay increase by up to 13.5 percent.
In addition, the contract calls for another 4 percent salary increase in April 2007. "
The San Diego area is notorious for the lowest pay in California. If veteran nurses got a 13.5 percent raise ... with an extra 4 percent next year ... that's pretty good compared with what non-union RN's get in SoCal.
Maybe the union could or should have done better but, considering the turmoil they've had at Scripps ... the union didn't do too bad here.
:typing
The only reason those nurses didn't get all of their raises 18 months earlier, was because of the union. Had CNA not been there they would have had their raises long ago, but once there is an elected representative, the law says they have to agree first...it's just plain sad to me, but if your perspective is that the union did good things...I guess we're just looking from different orientations. I see the union "in the way" and you give them all the credit for anything that you percieve to be "good"...WOW
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Cute:D :chuckle
But the difference is the nurses would be banding together and standing up for themselves, all by themselves, without a union, without paying dues to someone ELSE to represent them.
steph