Saint Vincent Catholic Medical Centers School of Nursing - Queens

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Anyone accepted for the Fall 2008 semester? I just got my acceptance letter!!! Yay!!! :) :yeah:

so the school will not have an Associate Degree Nursing Program that is accredited by the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC)?? How long does it take for the NLNAC to make this decision?

For the Fall semester we will be in the Whitestone location...since this is not a permanent location, i doubt they will review school during the fall. ughhh. I'm concerned that when I graduate I won't be in a school that is nationally accredited

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also St. Paul's appears to be under education affiliates, does anyone know what they are?

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so the school will not have an Associate Degree Nursing Program that is accredited by the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission (NLNAC)?? How long does it take for the NLNAC to make this decision?

For the Fall semester we will be in the Whitestone location...since this is not a permanent location, i doubt they will review school during the fall. ughhh. I'm concerned that when I graduate I won't be in a school that is nationally accredited

If one reads the NLNAC's standards for accrediting associate programs (listed on website), their are several areas that simply cannot be met until one or two years worth of grads at least are finished. In addtion to board passing rate, the NLNAC also takes into account completion rates for students (how long it takes for student nurses to complete the program, and if they do it within the given time period, (say two years). Am not sure but think feedback reagarding how grads fare in the workplace also factors in,again it is all listed on the website.

With both former Saint Vincent's schools (Staten Island and Queens) in flux due to being taken over by new owners you really cannot be sure what will happen going forward. Well that is expect some confusion and chaos as that is normal whenever any business is taken over by someone new. All you really can do is speak to recent grads of the old program and ask some hard questions at school.

One thing I've always suggested potential nursing students do is follow the advice RNs gave me when as a seniro in high school and considering nursing programs, look at the board passing rate. You want to see at least 95% or above. Anything below 90% is worrisome, and anything below say 85% is not a school I'd seriously consider.

Since SVCMCSN is now "St. Paul's" and under new mangement/direction, you really don't have much to go on in terms of passing rates and quality of education. You can only hope things are the same or better than before. If the lack of NLNAC status bothers you, then perhaps it is wise to reconsider your choice of schools. I mean you don't want to spend two or three years at school, not to mention thousands of dollars only to find yourself all at sea.

Best of luck!

DoGoodThenGo!

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when you guys look at nursing schools, look at the passing rate and passing grades. the passing score in a nursing course at st paul (formerly st vincent) is 80. if you get a 79.5 you still fail. i mean, about 7500 a semester has gotta hurt to know that you have to get an 80 to pass. find other schools that have not too high expectation and have excellent teachers and that are also nationally accredited. they might be state accredited but what happens if you move outside the state of ny?

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While it has been many years since one was in a nursing program, and more still since worked on the floors, am here to tell you that never heard then or hear today about a GN or RN being asked about his/her school in more than a passing reference, and or for general employment interview information.

In order to sit for the NCLEX one first files to obtain a license from the state board of nursing. It is the BON that determines if one meets the state's standards and requirements to apply, thus the state matters more than the NLNAC.

If a program was so horrible at training nurses, it would be reflected in the schools passing rates. Grads that were not prepared properly would likely fail the boards rendering the whole question of what school they attended moot, as they won't be able to obtain a license. Graduates of such a program would likely complain to their state's BON or education department which could look into the matter further.

Just for the record, there are one or two other accrediting bodies for nursing schools in the United States, so not having the NLNAC seal of approval is not the kiss of death.

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Okay so St. Vincent's had a great reputation from what I heard prior to it being acquired. I am starting there this Fall, so if I see there is complete chaos...I might have to go elsewhere in the Spring, do you guys think it's a good idea for me to apply to other schools for Spring, will the few courses I take a St. Paul's transfer over to CUNY schools or SUNY schools?

Also who is starting this Fall, anyone out there?? orientation is August 27th, I am anxious to start.

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Okay so St. Vincent's had a great reputation from what I heard prior to it being acquired. I am starting there this Fall, so if I see there is complete chaos...I might have to go elsewhere in the Spring, do you guys think it's a good idea for me to apply to other schools for Spring, will the few courses I take a St. Paul's transfer over to CUNY schools or SUNY schools?

Also who is starting this Fall, anyone out there?? orientation is August 27th, I am anxious to start.

I don't know anything about St. Vincent's, but what I do know is that it's very hard (if not impossible) to transfer nursing credits later on unless they are non-nursing pre-req's such as chemistry, statistics, etc. It's not just that school, it's all of them. I had asked St. Vincent's and other college admissions counselors, and they all said the same thing...The only exception is if you already have a LPN or some other type of nursing degree and are going further in your studies. I know because I wanted to transfer to a different nursing school, but it's not worth it after all the time & mony spent would essentially be wasted and I'd have to start almost at the beginning. For some reason, many schools in NY make all these complications about transferring nursing credits. Keep that in mind.

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Specializes in Pediatrics.

There seems to be a very big misconception, among students (or potential students) about NLN accreditation, and what it really means.

If a school is not NLN accredited, it does not mean your credits do not transfer to other schools. The old SVCMC (as well as the other schools that came before it, with it's previous owners, over the past 40 or so years) was never accredited by NLN. The process is very similar to Magnet in the hospitals; it is very expensive and time consuming to attempt to achieve. Just like there are many hospitals that do not attempt to go for Magnet (and are still considered reputable hospitals), there are schools that just cannot put the time, money and effort into NLN accrediation. You have to remember, SVCMC was a very small nursing school.

And just as a school can lose NLN accrediation, hospitals lose Magnet status as well. North Shore and LIJ come to mind...

There are many many graduated of SVCMC (and CMC) school of nursing who have gone on to receive BSNs as well as masters and Doctorates. The school would cease to exsist if it granted non-transferrable credits. The NY State education department grants a college degree (which it does) and the NY State Board of Nursing grants graduates the privelege of sitting for NLCEX. That is all you need for a degree and a license.

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Hi!! I am also starting this fall and am very anxious!! I am really looking forward to the orientation. Did you get your books yet?

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hi everyone, please help,.. i currently live on staten island,ny. i live about four minuts aways from the st. Paul school of nursing. i want to know if the school is going to change the staten island location. if so where?

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hey I still haven't purchased my books, you?

I'm waiting till pay day this friday...

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hey I still haven't purchased my books, you?

I'm waiting till pay day this friday...

talking about books, i still have my old books from couple of semesters ago. which books are they requiring you guys to get?

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