I'm currently a PSW in ontario, & i'm almost done the Practical Nursing program.
I'm curious to see what type of monthly income any other RPN's in Ontario are currently making.
I'm a single female, no kids, and still struggle on a PSW salary, at $16/hour, i'm curious to see how much of a life-change will take place financially once i'm a graduated RPN.
If you feel comfortable, how much do you make a month, after taxes, as an RPN in ontario? & where do you work?
Also, is it hard to find full-time, well paying work after graduation? I heard it's quite hard for new grads to make full-time pay?
Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
fritzped, do you know what's the first thing that trips through my mind when I hear a question like yours? I wonder what it is the person is trying to hide. If you're a well-educated, safe, ethical and competent nurse then SEC is just a bump in the road. One more failsafe for our health care system. One more assurance that the people we give permission to provide nursing care to our family members are actually going to to the job properly. It's not a stick to beat people with.
fritzped, do you know what's the first thing that trips through my mind when I hear a question like yours? I wonder what it is the person is trying to hide. If you're a well-educated, safe, ethical and competent nurse then SEC is just a bump in the road. One more failsafe for our health care system. One more assurance that the people we give permission to provide nursing care to our family members are actually going to to the job properly. It's not a stick to beat people with.
Well I really don't have nothing to hide. I graduated at a respectable medical university here in the philippines. I'm just concerned about the tuition fee, I heard you have to go through schooling. My friend is about to start his schooling this september at BC and he said it's about CAD6000 per semester. It's okay for me to undergo SEC but if I have a choice not to go through schooling then I would take it.. ?
Well I really don't have nothing to hide. I graduated at a respectable medical university here in the philippines. I'm just concerned about the tuition fee, I heard you have to go through schooling. My friend is about to start his schooling this september at BC and he said it's about CAD6000 per semester. It's okay for me to undergo SEC but if I have a choice not to go through schooling then I would take it.. ?
Did your friend go through the SEC process and then was required to upgrade? You don't go to school before the SEC but I understand you may have to afterwards if your education is found lacking. If you are confident you would pass the SEC, what are you worried about?
Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
fritzsped said:
Well I really don't have nothing to hide. I graduated at a respectable medical university here in the philippines. I'm just concerned about the tuition fee, I heard you have to go through schooling. My friend is about to start his schooling this september at BC and he said it's about CAD6000 per semester. It's okay for me to undergo SEC but if I have a choice not to go through schooling then I would take it.. ?
Your friend is misinformed. The SEC assesses your education and experience. If you meet all the expectations of the SEC, then that's where it ends. If you don't meet expectations, THEN you would be required to take courses to upgrade to the point where you do. The cost of such ugrading depends on what courses you're required to take and how many there are. BUT no one can compel you to do the courses. It's your choice. However, IF you want to work as a registered nurse in Canada you will do what is required.
I, and many others, have a great deal of concern about the attitude that you, and equally many others, are expressing. To us it seems as if you're looking for shortcuts, back doors, free rides, anything that can get you into the country and working, by fair means or foul. To put it bluntly, if a person cannot meet the requirements of the college of nursing in any province in Canada, that person should not be given any special treatment. None of us who were born and raised here were treated any differently. And if the shoe were on the other foot, and someone like me wanted to become a registered nurse in the Philippines, there is ABSOLUTELY no chance that would ever be permitted by the NLN. Ever. At least you have a chance of doing what you want to. But if you don't want to spend the money to make your dream come true then you may need to look elsewhere.
Did your friend go through the SEC process and then was required to upgrade? You don't go to school before the SEC but I understand you may have to afterwards if your education is found lacking. If you are confident you would pass the SEC, what are you worried about?
I think he took the exam last feb i think, but I'm not sure what area of education he is lacking but he told me that he would go to school this september. I think I'm more worried about what books to study. Some say that NCLEX-RN reviewers are the best to use but I read the scope of nursing education in canada, it's nowhere near the NCLEX-RN. I think it's more on psychosocial and not on pathophysiology. Thanks for the info.. ?
Your friend is misinformed. The SEC assesses your education and experience. If you meet all the expectations of the SEC, then that's where it ends. If you don't meet expectations, THEN you would be required to take courses to upgrade to the point where you do. The cost of such ugrading depends on what courses you're required to take and how many there are. BUT no one can compel you to do the courses. It's your choice. However, IF you want to work as a registered nurse in Canada you will do what is required.
I, and many others, have a great deal of concern about the attitude that you, and equally many others, are expressing. To us it seems as if you're looking for shortcuts, back doors, free rides, anything that can get you into the country and working, by fair means or foul. To put it bluntly, if a person cannot meet the requirements of the college of nursing in any province in Canada, that person should not be given any special treatment. None of us who were born and raised here were treated any differently. And if the shoe were on the other foot, and someone like me wanted to become a registered nurse in the Philippines, there is ABSOLUTELY no chance that would ever be permitted by the NLN. Ever. At least you have a chance of doing what you want to. But if you don't want to spend the money to make your dream come true then you may need to look elsewhere.
geez... I was just asking about the SEC... nice speech by the way..
geez... I was just asking about the SEC... nice speech by the way..
Actually you were asking about how to get OUT of doing the SEC.You seem to think that you should not be subject to the same assessment as any other nurse. If you are so confident in your nursing skills then you should have problem with being asked to undergo the SEC.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
Actually, the scope of nursing education EXCEEDS that of the United States in some respects. Every province in Canada will require a BScN degree for entry to practice by the end of this year, while many states have layers of nursing education from diploma to associate dgree to baccalaureate for entry.
In referring to the NCLEX-RN as relates to the SEC, you're looking at apples and oranges. The NCLEX-RN is the written exam, as I'm very sure you already know. The written exam in Canada is the CRNE, as I'm convinced you also already know. The content of those two exams is different, with the CRNE being more focused on psychosocial and sociological matters than on the pathophysiology. This is a reflection of the differences in the Canadian health care system as compared to that of the US. That isn't to say that the CRNE neglects pathophys... it doesn't. There is a certain expectation that someone who has graduated from a reputable university nursing program will have already demonstrated their knowledge of pathophys matters many times over so the CRNE looks at the intangibles of nursing much more than the NCLEX does.
Now I think this thread has strayed far enough off topic that I'm going to request that we return to our originally scheduled progam, RPN wages in Ontario. If there are any further attempts to derail the thread, this one will be closed.
I am making my decision about what to study in school. I thought about doing Diagnostic ultrasound and while doing my research I came across information about the Ft mc murry boom. I considered coming up there to work in a ****** kitchen staff position cause I'd make more money doing that plus benefits than any job I could get here. I didn't take it cause I'd still need to do kitchen staff training so i figure if I am going to go to school I should just go all the way and do some kind of medical training. RPN, RN, sonographer etc.
My question to you is you say you pull 5-6 grand a month. Do you get any living allowance on top of that? I understand living expenses in Ft McM are really really high. Do you make more but spend more too? What is your schedule like?
The kitchen job was in a work camp for $25 per hour and they fly you in and out ever 3-4 weeks and you get 2 weeks break in between. Sounds good to me. I'd live sleep in a 9X12 work camp room for a schedule like that and that wage, room, board, and travel expenses paid.
What's it like in the medical feild? Perks, benefits etc? I want a change of scenery from Toronto and just want to make money to invest so I can retire asap! lol. Whatever it takes. I'll live anywhere.
I also want to take my training to the states in the next few years so I can live in a warmer climate another reason I am looking into health care.
Your reading material is outdated. Alberta has suffered during the global recession. AHS has a hiring freeze that is just thawing. The oil sector is slow.
Any money you make in Fort Mac is used just living there.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
To expand on FIona59's remarks, there are exactly 5 RN vacancies posted in Fort Mac as of today. One is a temporary part time (50%) in peds surgery, one is permanent full time in medicine. Three temporary full times, one in ICU and two in the OR all expire in 10 months or fewer. The OR positions require 3-5 years' experience, the ICU position requires TNCC and ACLS, with a critical care course and coronary course preferred. There is one permanent full time LPN position in medicine. All are open to external applicants... all six of them. Not exactly a huge shortage.
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fritzped, do you know what's the first thing that trips through my mind when I hear a question like yours? I wonder what it is the person is trying to hide. If you're a well-educated, safe, ethical and competent nurse then SEC is just a bump in the road. One more failsafe for our health care system. One more assurance that the people we give permission to provide nursing care to our family members are actually going to to the job properly. It's not a stick to beat people with.