RETROGRESSION for this year?

suzanne4, RN · Jul 30, 2006

^ hey this is an informative discussion. and if you're sources are authentic, then readers of this thread ought to get the correct information...
topics such as this which have legal implications should come from real and reliable sources supported by facts...and not just speculations nor mere opinions

He was asking for immigrant and non-immigrant visa to be submitted at the same time. And they can't. With an H1-B visa application, you can file as many as you want, but that was not what the actul question was that was posted either. An RN cannot get an H1-B visa to work in a nursing role. And if you notice how mnay people have problems here when they decide to go the direct hire route, when they use the words "Sponsorship" -- facilities run form that word. Facilities that used to use H1-B nurses, had to have a staff of three full-time employees just to handle the paperwork. And you belonged to the employer, quite literally. If they cancelled your contract for nay reason, you had about 30 days to find another employer or you needed to leave the country, even if you had a home and car. And trying to find another employer for the H1-B in nursing was almost impossible the last few years that it was available. I have worked with nurses from other countries for years and years, and they are all so happy that hopefully the H1-B will never come to be for RNs again.

And why would you even want it? The green card for the RN is expedited and can be done in about one year, the route for others is about five years.

So this is really not an informative discussion, but looking at ways to argue and it is not appreciated. I have been doing this since beofre many of you were even born, you want to do other things and go other routes, please be my guest. Trying to take a shortcut will only turn around to bite you on the backside afterwards.

End of discussion from me.

tantrum · Jul 30, 2006

suzanne is correct. Nurses cannot be petitioned for H1B as these visas require a least 4 year Baccalaureat degrees to practice (like PT's, MDs). even if you qualify for H1B, why would you do that?? Unless Congress create a new visa classification like the old H1A, you should thank God for having the chance for a green card. I have an H1B and even if the processing is just slightly faster than green card, it would take you at least 18 months from H1B to adjust for a green card. It's worth waiting for a green card.

suzanne4, RN · Jul 30, 2006

Most foreign nurses have a BSN, but the issue is that they are not available for nurses, and have not been for over two years. The green card is fast-tracked for nurses.

And there are no H1-B visas available any longer throughout 2007, they are all filled. So it doesn't help even if they were. The H1-B category is not available to nurses in a nursing capacity. They were awful when they were available, the employer could pay you any salary that they wished, it could even be less than 1/3 that the others were gettign, no law that they had to pay the same as an American RN. And many were taken advantage of and treated poorly. Why in the worlf would someone even want that?

Nursing is the only area that is fast-tracked, take advantage of it. Why do you think that so mnay from other countries are going into nursing? Because the green card is available to them, and about four years earlier than other professions.

lavalin · Jul 31, 2006

He was asking for immigrant and non-immigrant visa to be submitted at the same time. And they can't. With an H1-B visa application, you can file as many as you want, but that was not what the actul question was that was posted either. An RN cannot get an H1-B visa to work in a nursing role. And if you notice how mnay people have problems here when they decide to go the direct hire route, when they use the words "Sponsorship" -- facilities run form that word. Facilities that used to use H1-B nurses, had to have a staff of three full-time employees just to handle the paperwork. And you belonged to the employer, quite literally. If they cancelled your contract for nay reason, you had about 30 days to find another employer or you needed to leave the country, even if you had a home and car. And trying to find another employer for the H1-B in nursing was almost impossible the last few years that it was available. I have worked with nurses from other countries for years and years, and they are all so happy that hopefully the H1-B will never come to be for RNs again.
And why would you even want it? The green card for the RN is expedited and can be done in about one year, the route for others is about five years.
So this is really not an informative discussion, but looking at ways to argue and it is not appreciated. I have been doing this since beofre many of you were even born, you want to do other things and go other routes, please be my guest. Trying to take a shortcut will only turn around to bite you on the backside afterwards.
End of discussion from me.

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mahoogie · Aug 7, 2006

Is the processing of visa screen certificate can be affected by this retrogression?

lawrence01 · Aug 7, 2006

Is the processing of visa screen certificate can be affected by this retrogression?

No. Definitely not.

FutureUSRN · Aug 14, 2006

I just can't imagine how 50,000 visas dedicated only for RNs and PTs are used up for just one year.

I know that there are many applicants and maybe more than that but with the current phase, it's hard to imagine that the visas are to become not available by Oct. 06. But officially, this is what the DOS is saying in the website.

I am hoping that it will extend up to end of the year so that I can apply for adjustment by that time. I need to stay 90 days in order to apply for AOS, as what's being told in this forum.

lawrence01 · Aug 14, 2006

I just can't imagine how 50,000 visas dedicated only for RNs and PTs are used up for just one year.
I know that there are many applicants and maybe more than that but with the current phase, it's hard to imagine that the visas are to become not available by Oct. 06. But officially, this is what the DOS is saying in the website.
I am hoping that it will extend up to end of the year so that I can apply for adjustment by that time. I need to stay 90 days in order to apply for AOS, as what's being told in this forum.

They counted the immediate relatives in the Visa counting as well. That's why.

There were some talks before that they might take away the counting for the immediate family but it didn't materialize.

lawrence01 · Aug 14, 2006

Just don't know what they'll do, now. It's either that they'll do what I said above or capture more un-used visas from other categories (w/c they did w/ these current 50,000).

The Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill w/c has provisions for unlimited visas for nurses and PTs until 2017 seems to be very unlikely to be enacted by Congress this year.

FutureUSRN · Aug 14, 2006

I am hearing that they are trying to pass a bill with provisions of unlimited visa for Shedule A applicants, and this bill is separate from the Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill. So far, both Senate and Congress agree with this provision.

It looks like to me that this will happen before the November election. Am I trying to hit the moon?

FutureUSRN · Aug 14, 2006

I cannot understand "Following-to-join benefits for espouses and children" of a LPR. In this case, the dependent may not wait for the visa number to become available and may follow asap after approval of the application.

lawrence01 · Aug 14, 2006

I am hearing that they are trying to pass a bill with provisions of unlimited visa for Shedule A applicants, and this bill is separate from the Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill. So far, both Senate and Congress agree with this provision.
It looks like to me that this will happen before the November election. Am I trying to hit the moon?

Hope what you're saying would materialize.