Retraining Displaced Workers As Nurses

The intended purpose of this article is to discuss the various issues surrounding the recruitment of unemployed and displaced workers into the nursing profession. Nurses General Nursing Article

When the economy started to slump after the financial meltdown in the U.S. several years ago, masses of displaced workers suddenly began to view nursing as a safe haven.

The nursing profession has been a magnet for many unemployed people heading back to school (Robertson, 2011). During the past few years, people from various backgrounds have been flocking to the healthcare field due to the perception of job security, career mobility, and steady income.

Government money has paid part or all of the bill for those displaced workers to retrain (Schultz, 2010). And now that they have retrained, many are still seeking employment because something unexpected took place as the economy tanked.

Shortages that had been evident for almost a decade were all but wiped out as retired nurses returned to the workforce (Robertson, 2011). Also, nurses who once planned to retire had decided to keep working to replenish retirement accounts that lost money during the recession.

Is retraining displaced workers to become nurses a good idea? Even though this can be answered with a simple 'yes' or 'no,' the question is not as concrete as it may appear. I will start by saying that many displaced workers would surely turn out to be amazing nurses due to their work ethic, life experience, maturity, unique personalities, and eagerness to learn. In addition, it greatly helps the situation if the dislocated worker has a true interest in healthcare and a passion for helping others.

However, a mass effort to retrain unemployed people and track them into one specific career pathway cannot always be beneficial, especially if many of these individuals didn't really have the inclination or personal desire to become nurses in the first place. In fact, too many people who are currently enrolled in nursing programs divulge that they dislike many aspects of nursing, but the idea of a middle-class income at the end of the pipeline was too irresistible to pass up.

Do other professions actively encourage displaced workers to become members of their ranks? There's a dearth of qualified employees in the STEM (science, technology, engineering and math) professions here in the U.S., but the leaders of these fields are not looking at unemployed people as the quick and easy solution to their labor shortages. This country is badly in need of family practice doctors, but I suspect the American Medical Association would frown upon using dislocated workers to fill more slots in medical school.

The displaced worker who has the desire to become a nurse should follow his or her dream and take the necessary steps. However, the people who are jumping on the nursing bandwagon for the supposed security and 'big bucks' might become sorely disappointed.

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Regarding retraining into STEM fields....THOSE fields are ripe with outsourcing! I did IT for 18 yrs. I got laid off every 2 to 3 yrs during that period of time. My retraining into nursing was paid for by the state of Florida (Worksource). You can't send nursing care to a foreign country. Yes, you can bring foreigners IN, but you can't send the job out. This keeps work here. Now with honesty (hah) in talking to the Government, a glut of nurses looking for jobs should eliminate the H1B visas allowing foreign nurses to work here. We would have to hire our own.

Yes, older nurses stayed or returned to rebuild their retirement accts. If they LEFT their $ in stocks (which caused them to lose so much), most of it would have returned at this point. (DJIA et al were 13 - 14K, dropped to 9K and back up to 12 - 13K) Once rebuilt, older nurses should take the advice of changing their portfolios to stable bonds so this never happens again. Since I entered the workforce in the 80s the financial planners always said, "stocks in the early years, stocks + bonds in the middle years, bonds at the end." It may have been hard to take your portfolio out of a system that was earning over 10% per annum in stocks and transition to lower yielding bonds.....but, you risked losing $ if you didn't. They didn't and they lost. :(

At some point, the body gives out. Those older nurses will retire. We will need to replace them at some point.

i have not read all postings; i apologize if i repeat what others may have said.

i would just start by saying this "let us just turn the table around" for the sake of fairness. supposing i was a displaced nurse having a chance to get retrained in a teaching education program even though it was not easy to get into a teaching job but it was easier than to get into a nursing profession and it would give me "big bucks?" i have the wisdom, intelligence and the ambition to do the teaching program. would not i be unwise to take advantage of the opportunity? opportunity after all is not only for a handful some, it is for all.

I think when people like myself say "You should not do it for the money.", we are trying to imply that you are not paid well enough for the stress and responsibility we have as a Nurse. If you do not at least like it..a little...I could see fast burnout occurring. My friend who went through dental hygiene school makes 35$ an hour as a new grad, and I live in a M-COL area. Charlotte, NC. Theoretically, there are other jobs that pay better with an associates degree.

I have always wanted to be a Nurse, and the pay is not too shabby, but ultimately it is my husband's business and my stocks that will us the real money, not Nursing, specifically.

Take that to another level- suppose there were thousands of teachers( brand new teachers and old veteran teachers unemployed- and, in all reality; there are); does it make sense to encourage others and spend public funding on educating more people to be come teachers? It's totally illogical. it's not solving any problem in the rates of unemployment, it's adding to it. If there is a large percentage of a working group out of work- why would anyone want to add to it to make the number greater? perhaps the answer to that is: out of stupidity or sadistic reasons- just to see if we can add to the number of unemployed, homeless etc. for poops and giggles?? it's fun to see pictures of the homeless and jobless on the 5-6'oclock news?? Look, Ma! He's sleeping in a cardboard box. Can I sleep in a cardboard box too?

There's the other part to the"Big, Nursing Lie"-- it's easier to get into than other jobs!!! Who is not getting the memo??? Who needs to open their eyes and look around them.?? Who is(are) the Birdbrain(s) perpetuating this Nursing is the land of milk and honey?

A good number of teachers are amongst the unemployed also and there isn"t a big public campaign "teacher shortage" Does anyone hear in the teaching profession spouting off false stats of how there really is a teacher shortage-'( aka- you just cant see it right now for all the unemployed teachers) come sign up be a teacher, take student loans out, work for that 3.0 needed for a teaching certification and grad school as entry level ( yes, grad school is entry level into teaching), "Hurry, Hurry, Hurry, Step right up folks, Come claim your chance to a brighter future and financial freedom- be a teacher/nurse" It's a carnival, complete with mirrors. Over here little boy/girl, spin the wheel and take a chance, hurry hurry hurry.' It's criminal.

Teachers,nurses and doctors are not something one just "tastes" at the smorgasborg table. I bet there are alot of psychopaths and sociopaths( proven to usually have higher intelligences than average) who would be very successful in getting high grades, in a nursing, teaching or medical program but not someone anyone would say would make a good nurse, teacher or doctor or would even want in one of those programs.

Nursing obviously needs to take an honest unemployment poll amongst it's Nurses. There needs to be some solid truthful facts on the Unemployment/under-employment rate amongst nurse community. Then notify the US dept of labor and stop this ******* charade.

Have every state BON send out a questionaire to all it's active and inactive licensees. Not hard, they have all nurses addresses. I am well aware the BON did this in the state I was working in 2006.( not sure if it was done in all 50 states). Well- life has changed since then.( again - not rocket science) "the landscape has changed - got a lot of wilted and dead plants on it since then"

The questions should be:

Are you: active license, inactive license

Are you employed: Check one:

fulltime, part time, looking?given up looking?

If employed- is your # of hrs. by choice?

Are you under employed?

Are you: a new grad; 2-4 yr; 5-10 yr: 20-25 yr: over 30 yr.

Are you working in nursing, if so in what capacity- your license level or other.

Do you consider your position: clinical, non clinical nursing or non traditional position or not in nursing at all?

Questions about you pay- is it higher, the same or lower since 2006, 2007,2008

What are your specialites: Check all that apply

If not employed, how long have you been looking?

What is your highest level of nursing education?

it doesn't take a Phd or DSN to do this.( I am a little old diploma grad.) It just takes someone who really cares about the true condition of Nursing happening now and an honest concern about where it is going.

There is no possible way the stats out there on nursing are current- with so many complaints of nursing not finding jobs- young and old. i'm not buying it.

Specializes in Critical Care.

The reason govt is pushing nursing for displaced workers is because it is a job that cannot be outsourced! Cities and states want their citizens to have stable employment to maintain the tax base. It is really out of desperation. Companies have become very adept at "blackmailing" local communities and states and starting a bidding war between different states, the one trying to keep them and the ones trying to lure them away. It is very lucrative for the businesses, but very destructive for the communities! Many times they push thru pay cuts, freezes or a second tier $14-15/hr max for the workers involved!

What is really sickening is after they win and force these pay cuts and tax credits, they then turn around and give the big shots millions of dollars in bonuses. It is very sad!

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[TD][h=1]I'm having a problem with this and was wondering if any of the posters can figure this out. We are retraining displaced workers for other areas into nursing yet I am an RN with 32 years of acute care bedside nursing practice online applying for these jacked up nursing positions due to my unemployment status. Here i have clearly and distinctly applied for CM/UM positions- same job description and requirements( as noted below) but one is 'per deim' and one is 'full time'. The staus of application on both are clearly and distinctly posted straight from my

"jobs manager" LOL!! The infinate wisdom of all these high tech HR "TOOLS"(LOL- I mean that in the most unflattering way to HR's everywhere) has designated me as "not selected" for the full time position but has me as "received submission" for the perdeim position. My entry to the pre-qualifing questions "Are you an RN and Do you have 3 years case managment experience" are exactly the same in each, yet I am qualified for a perdeim position but not a full time position?? If I only have 2 years in CM would one logicall think I would be more qualified for the full time and not the perdeim?? The only thing I can deduct is that all my past employment is on the resume also include to this forifice of an application which is dated back to 1985( my first nursing position)!! The "support services associate=prn" position is an application to a housekeeping position- I threw that in to see if I get a call- that a 56 yr old RN is too old for a nursing position but not for a houskeeping position. The UM withdrawn position was for the same position( they were looking for 2 nurses) I got the same response- "not selected" and they got a rather nasty note in their comment box as to why I would be qualified for housekeeping and a UM perdeim but not UM full time - age discrimination.

And we are bringing in more nurses into the profession- by hook and crook, in a nursing glut!! I didn't drink the "kool-aide"!! Flame me if you will, the facts speak for themselves. There is age discrimination in Nursing. ( sorry for the 'bold" I was not able to copy and paste their graphics/excell and post)

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[TD=class: iCIMS_JobsTableOdd iCIMS_SubmittalTableField_2]UM CASE MANAGER RN

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[TD=class: iCIMS_JobsTableEven iCIMS_SubmittalTableField_4]7/20/2012

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[TD=width: 27%]US- A UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER in my state( I removed the name to protect the guilty)

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More information about this job: Short Description:

The focus of this of this position is to work in collaboration with the physician and interdisciplinary team in the provision of patient care, with the objectives of enhancing the quality of clinical outcomes and patient satisfaction while managing the cost of care and providing timely and accurate information to payers. Goals include improved compliance with best practice guidelines and contribution to the development of systems (eg: care maps, clinical paths) which ultimately improve the care of our patients.

Special Requirements:

Current NJ RN license in good standing required, BSN preferred; CCM mustbe achieved by 2012, interqual experience preferred. Some experience in Case Management with utilization review and discharge planning required. 3-5 years of recent clinical experience, preferably in area of population specialty.

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[TD=width: 29%]US-A Univ. Medical Center in my State(I removed the name to protect the guilty party)

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More information about this job: Short Description:

The focus of this of this position is to work in collaboration with the physician and interdisciplinary team in the provision of patient care, with the objectives of enhancing the quality of clinical outcomes and patient satisfaction while managing the cost of care and providing timely and accurate information to payers. Goals include improved compliance with best practice guidelines and contribution to the development of systems (eg: care maps, clinical paths) which ultimately improve the care of our patients.

Special Requirements:

Current NJ RN license in good standing required, BSN preferred; CCM mustbe achieved by 2012, interqual experience preferred. Some experience in Case Management with utilization review and discharge planning required. 3-5 years of recent clinical experience, preferably in area of population specialty.

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