Rep. Pascrell Demands 126 House Members Seeking To Overturn Election Not Be Seated In Congress

toomuchbaloney · Dec 12, 2020

Senator Murphy agrees, at least to a degree, and has delivered a stark warning.

Daisy4RN · Dec 12, 2020

15 hours ago, NRSKarenRN said:

In the U.S,, sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it.

Hmmm, sounds like what the Democrats have been doing for the last 4 years! Maybe Mr Pascrell should look at that, and while he is at it also look at the Biden family's hx of corruption (including Hunter) and Swalwells hx of involvement with Chinese spies. And, if he is so worried about a fair election/results maybe he should also look and the involvement of big tech, the media and the Democratic party, just sayin

toomuchbaloney · Dec 12, 2020

1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:

Hmmm, sounds like what the Democrats have been doing for the last 4 years! Maybe Mr Pascrell should look at that, and while he is at it also look at the Biden family's hx of corruption (including Hunter) and Swalwells hx of involvement with Chinese spies. And, if he is so worried about a fair election/results maybe he should also look and the involvement of big tech, the media and the Democratic party, just sayin

Specifically how do you believe that Democrats have been working to incite violence or revolt over the past 4 years? Please provide some specific examples which illustrate your concern. Because it's a bit difficult to accept a vague projection about Democrats in the face of clear cut attempt to undo a fair and legitimate election by state and congressional republican "leaders". That is much projection rather than discussion of the coup attempt underway right now.

Why is that? Why aren't you concerned about this current threat to our democratic process? Why are you pointing fingers elsewhere? Trump is the one making untrue claims. Republicans are the ones trying to undo a fair election. Why can't you see that threat?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Dec 12, 2020

1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:

Hmmm, sounds like what the Democrats have been doing for the last 4 years! Maybe Mr Pascrell should look at that, and while he is at it also look at the Biden family's hx of corruption (including Hunter) and Swalwells hx of involvement with Chinese spies. And, if he is so worried about a fair election/results maybe he should also look and the involvement of big tech, the media and the Democratic party, just sayin

The old diversion of the topic at hand by pointing out the other sides faults which is irrelevant to the topic of conversation. I'm calling you out on that. But you're entitled to post as you feel, but it's not worthy of discussion in my opinion here. Maybe you can start another thread?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Dec 13, 2020

18 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Specifically how do you believe that Democrats have been working to incite violence or revolt over the past 4 years? Please provide some specific examples which illustrate your concern. Because it's a bit difficult to accept a vague projection about Democrats in the face of clear cut attempt to undo a fair and legitimate election by state and congressional republican "leaders". That is much projection rather than discussion of the coup attempt underway right now.

Why is that? Why aren't you concerned about this current threat to our democratic process? Why are you pointing fingers elsewhere? Trump is the one making untrue claims. Republicans are the ones trying to undo a fair election. Why can't you see that threat?

I can't speak for this poster, but Trump supporters believe that the Democrats have been trying to overthrow the president through a "witch hunt".

Here's an example: https://www.rollcall.com/2019/03/25/white-house-says-democrats-and-mueller-tried-to-overthrow-trump/

But really changing the subject by bringing up irrelevant points isn't something I want to get into.

When Trump won the election, Clinton conceded rather quickly, Obama congratulated him and invited him to the White House the next day and met with him. Obama cooperated with the transition. The system of American Democracy was intact even if the Democrats didn't like winning the popular vote and losing by Electoral College to Trump. Anything else that happened after that wasn't made up without proof. Democrats presented evidence and a good case for the allegations they have made even though Trump ultimately prevailed. He prevailed through the legal process and Democrats accepted that and moved on.

toomuchbaloney · Dec 13, 2020

3 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I can't speak for this poster, but Trump supporters believe that the Democrats have been trying to overthrow the president through a "witch hunt".

Here's an example: https://www.rollcall.com/2019/03/25/white-house-says-democrats-and-mueller-tried-to-overthrow-trump/

But really changing the subject by bringing up irrelevant points isn't something I want to get into.

When Trump won the election, Clinton conceded rather quickly, Obama congratulated him and invited him to the White House the next day and met with him. Obama cooperated with the transition. The system of American Democracy was intact even if the Democrats didn't like winning the popular vote and losing by Electoral College to Trump. Anything else that happened after that wasn't made up without proof. Democrats had of presented evidence and a good case for the allegations they have made even though Trump ultimately prevailed. He prevailed through the legal process and Democrats accepted that and moved on.

Yes. Trump supporters believe a variety of lies and cons. This is one of them.

You are correct. I shouldn't even have engaged. We all know that projection and deflection are some of the favorite strategies for Trump defense when confronted with criticism and blame. Anything to change the subject.

guest1163268 · Dec 19, 2020

On 12/12/2020 at 7:14 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

Yes. Trump supporters believe a variety of lies and cons. This is one of them.

You are correct. I shouldn't even have engaged. We all know that projection and deflection are some of the favorite strategies for Trump defense when confronted with criticism and blame. Anything to change the subject.

In my experience, they also can never finish one topic, no matter how hard you try to make them, before jumping to another. They tend to quickly gloss over the subject matter, as if incapable of justifying their choices logically.

As a nurse, that's frustrating. Symptom.... Why?.... Which systems are compromised?.... Why that particular symptom?... And so on.

We have definite ways of operating and they don't. No matter how interested you are in their choices, they just never seem to be.

Extraordinary hairstyle... Why?.. Dyed and wound around and around to cover the bald spot.... Vanity... Insecurity!

Extraordinary alien type tan.... Why... Skin color? Mottled? Vanity... Insecurity!

Pushes another leader out of the way... Photo op... Calls a woman derogatory names.... Long absurd ties.... Makes racist statements.... Appears petty.. California fires, Puerto Rico hurricane..

The list is endless. To a psych nurse who mainly watches behaviors, I would literally run, cross the street, just looking at him. And that's without knowing about anything he's said or done.

And I am extremely curious what's fascinating about someone who is so obviously dangerous, without even needing his niece's renditions. It's so fascinating that someone that I can't find a single redeeming feature, who raises my danger alertness almost immediately just from observation, can attract so many people?