Relief for retrogression hope???

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See these links what do you all think?

http://hammondlawgroup.blogspot.com/

http://www.shusterman.com/

Does anyone know what the primary benificiary quota is all about?

Elkpark that post was great. After reading this board, I feel bad for nurses who's family has sacraficed so much for false promises. The American economy is in the tank. Jobs are harder to come by. Medicare is only reimbursing at a 2% rate while the cost of living is skyrocketing. I don't see relief for retrogression any time soon.

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I have just read every single post and I feel like I'm watching a tennis tournament. I just don't get how foreign nurses are willing to do anything and everything just to get to the US. I've been hearing that people are willing to give up assets just to get their children through Nursing school and then off to the United States without considering several factors: (1) waiting time for a Nurse Green Card and (2) length of time it would take to recover the amount of money spent during the entire ordeal.

Being an RN requires not only a mindset but also a 'heart'-set. Our course didn't teach us to chase after greenbacks; rather it teaches us to help those in need of compassionate and empathic skilled bedside care. What makes an RN fit for a position is 10% intelligence, 10% skill and 80% patient satisfaction---regardless of whether this RN is working in the US or not.

So for the 800,000 RNs in line, why not take it from a different point of view? Be optimistic. Take is as a sign from God that you should probably help your countrymen first before helping others. Five years is sufficient time to make a difference in the quality of healthcare in a country. If this and the US thing isn't in the works, try considering a different country. If it would make you more competitive as an RN... then why not?

And finally for those who are planning to take on the Nursing career, is being a compassionate and empathic skilled bedside RN really what you want or is the USA really what you want? Because I know people who came into the USA through employer-based immigrant visas as CPAs, engineers, and IT specialists. They weren't RNs. They were individuals who went after what they really wanted, excelled in it and got into the USA the exact way RNs do.

What I'm just trying to get through here is if you really want to be an RN it doesn't freaking matter where you practice. If you are unsure, take some time off and think...

Is all this worth the sacrifice, time and money??????

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I have just read every single post and I feel like I'm watching a tennis tournament. I just don't get how foreign nurses are willing to do anything and everything just to get to the US. I've been hearing that people are willing to give up assets just to get their children through Nursing school and then off to the United States without considering several factors: (1) waiting time for a Nurse Green Card and (2) length of time it would take to recover the amount of money spent during the entire ordeal.

Being an RN requires not only a mindset but also a 'heart'-set. Our course didn't teach us to chase after greenbacks; rather it teaches us to help those in need of compassionate and empathic skilled bedside care. What makes an RN fit for a position is 10% intelligence, 10% skill and 80% patient satisfaction---regardless of whether this RN is working in the US or not.

So for the 800,000 RNs in line, why not take it from a different point of view? Be optimistic. Take is as a sign from God that you should probably help your countrymen first before helping others. Five years is sufficient time to make a difference in the quality of healthcare in a country. If this and the US thing isn't in the works, try considering a different country. If it would make you more competitive as an RN... then why not?

And finally for those who are planning to take on the Nursing career, is being a compassionate and empathic skilled bedside RN really what you want or is the USA really what you want? Because I know people who came into the USA through employer-based immigrant visas as CPAs, engineers, and IT specialists. They weren't RNs. They were individuals who went after what they really wanted, excelled in it and got into the USA the exact way RNs do.

What I'm just trying to get through here is if you really want to be an RN it doesn't freaking matter where you practice. If you are unsure, take some time off and think...

Is all this worth the sacrifice, time and money??????

this has to be one of the best post i'v read :yeah::yeah::yeah:

...soooooo true and honest....and not a hint of negativity

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Specializes in Medical Surgical-current.

And finally for those who are planning to take on the Nursing career, is being a compassionate and empathic skilled bedside RN really what you want or is the USA really what you want? Because I know people who came into the USA through employer-based immigrant visas as CPAs, engineers, and IT specialists. They weren't RNs. They were individuals who went after what they really wanted, excelled in it and got into the USA the exact way RNs do.

What I'm just trying to get through here is if you really want to be an RN it doesn't freaking matter where you practice. If you are unsure, take some time off and think...

Is all this worth the sacrifice, time and money??????

Are you a Filipino working as an RN in the USA or a foreign immigrant there??..I understand your point, but most new nurses and other nursing students are really good and have potentials. I also observe that most male nurses and male student nurses do much better and work faster than females..They do have potential and talent in nursing..Yes,nowadays, a lot are taking up Nursing because they do have dreams of going to USA and other first world countries, BUT a lot of these people work well as nurses--I dont know about the others who dont do well or fed-up with nursing stress, maybe they should just shift career, but so far, in our area, I do admire the skills and tolerance of my co-workers and student nurses in handling many toxic patients and impatient relatives..Indeed, nursing is really a demanding work..If you are not mentally and physically prepared, well, you try to be--otherwise, you wont last in this career..In other countries, it is just the same thing,Nursing is very stressful...In the Philippines,oftentimes,you wont have time to eat or pee, especially if you're on the Step-down ICU or Medical-Surgical Unit..You'll get crazy most of the time, because of the number of patient load, number of medications,number of procedures, number of new patients you are admitting in a day,three patients whose IV catheters are out and have to reinsert it,number of patients you would endorse to Hemodialysis in a day and two patients you would transfer to ICU which eats up a lot of your time--ICU nurse would get angry if your endorsement to their area is not organize and if you forgot to mention something..You must do well even under pressure and even if you have 10 patients all in all..Yes, thats the usual count, 8-10 patients in a day, sometimes I handle 12..The technique is to be selfless, not to think too much about yourself..

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Are you a Filipino working as an RN in the USA or a foreign immigrant there??..I understand your point, but most new nurses and other nursing students are really good and have potentials. I also observe that most male nurses and male student nurses do much better and work faster than females..They do have potential and talent in nursing..Yes,nowadays, a lot are taking up Nursing because they do have dreams of going to USA and other first world countries, BUT a lot of these people work well as nurses--I dont know about the others who dont do well or fed-up with nursing stress, maybe they should just shift career, but so far, in our area, I do admire the skills and tolerance of my co-workers and student nurses in handling many toxic patients and impatient relatives..Indeed, nursing is really a demanding work..If you are not mentally and physically prepared, well, you try to be--otherwise, you wont last in this career..In other countries, it is just the same thing,Nursing is very stressful...In the Philippines,oftentimes,you wont have time to eat or pee, especially if you're on the Step-down ICU or Medical-Surgical Unit..You'll get crazy most of the time, because of the number of patient load, number of medications,number of procedures, number of new patients you are admitting in a day,three patients whose IV catheters are out and have to reinsert it,number of patients you would endorse to Hemodialysis in a day and two patients you would transfer to ICU which eats up a lot of your time--ICU nurse would get angry if your endorsement to their area is not organize and if you forgot to mention something..You must do well even under pressure and even if you have 10 patients all in all..Yes, thats the usual count, 8-10 patients in a day, sometimes I handle 12..The technique is to be selfless, not to think too much about yourself..

Then why do a majority of your country's RNs prefer to leave???? If they have seen and experienced this situation during their clinicals, why can't they help out instead of trying to get into a different country that doesn't have a shortage of RNs? I do admire the talent of Filipino RNs, same as I do for every single RN in the world, but with what you just wrote, it seemed like the 950,000 Nursing students Suzanne04 mentioned plus the licensed RNs in your country rarely pitched in with the work. I just hope and pray that while waiting, qualified RNs in your country help with the load and not just sit and wait for the I-485 or whatever it is to land at their doorstep. With what you wrote, healthcare there needs a lot of help!

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It is not 800,000 nurses that submitted petitions last summer for the I-485, but that number includes all professions that are under the EB-3 classification and that is what nurses are under for their green card.

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There is no "Nursing Retrogression" since policy covers all populations.All I hear is that this year is going to be very tough economically due to the economy.The economy effects everybody, higher unemployment. Many hospitals have freezes meaning no one can be employed. It does n't mean that there isn't a need but similar to the Phillipine nursing we have to more with less. Staff positions will be unfilled. Many part time nurses will work full time and full time nurses will request overtime.

When the jobs open up, first priority will be skilled experienced nurses, next will be the need crop of grads, Then the re-trained new nurses who are second coursers due to the poor economy. I don't see the need for foreign trained nurses in the near future.

My point if one had to testify they would have to address every occupation not just nursing. Personally if I had to testify I would recommend more education for all Americans to find employment.

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There is no "Nursing Retrogression" since policy covers all populations.All I hear is that this year is going to be very tough economically due to the economy.The economy effects everybody, higher unemployment. Many hospitals have freezes meaning no one can be employed. It does n't mean that there isn't a need but similar to the Phillipine nursing we have to more with less. Staff positions will be unfilled. Many part time nurses will work full time and full time nurses will request overtime.

When the jobs open up, first priority will be skilled experienced nurses, next will be the need crop of grads, Then the re-trained new nurses who are second coursers due to the poor economy. I don't see the need for foreign trained nurses in the near future.

My point if one had to testify they would have to address every occupation not just nursing. Personally if I had to testify I would recommend more education for all Americans to find employment.

Unfortunately, things do not work like that here; wish that it would. First goes by PD or priority date of when papers were initially submitted, and then when the file is complete. Currently it is up to the official at the US Embassy that makes the determination if they will accept the person for the visa. And we are seeing them making things harder and for this very reason, and we are expecting the US to change and actually require experience as most other countries due to the major increase in graduates coming out of some countries.

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Mumbai consulate published July 2008 VB

EB3 Unavailable

http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html

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HR 5924 to encourage homegrown nurses in the U.S.? That is good, but the bigger question is, are they interested with the job?

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Hi Suzanne,

Hope is free, miracles do happen!

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HR 5924 to encourage homegrown nurses in the U.S.? That is good, but the bigger question is, are they interested with the job?

The vast majority of people in the US who attend nursing school do so because they have a genuine interest in becoming a nurse.

From a lot of posts in this forum, it's clear that a love of nursing is not necessarily the primary motivation for many foreign nursing students.

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