Reflection of accepting a job offer for North Dakota

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This review is for St. Alexius in Bismarck, ND.

IF YOU APPLY FOR A POSITION AND YOU ARE AN RN PLEASE APPLY FOR AN RN POSITION. NOT GRADUATE NURSE! PLEASE CONTACT ME or WHATSMYUSERNAME_RN BEFORE YOUR APP FOR REFERRAL(HOW DID YOU HEAR ABOUT US IN APP) AND I CAN HELP POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!

Hello,

I would like to say I am a new grad BSN-RN who applied to every place but my home state. I moved from Hawaii to any place that would take me other than Texas. Texas is known for taking their own new grads.

Why you ask? I wanted experience of living somewhere else. I applied to 15 hospitals across the US and even in small towns. I had a generic cover letter and resume for the ones that were "Whatever" applications.

I applied to 3 in North Dakota and they all called me.

There is a true nursing shortage in ND along with a shortage on every possible job you can think. Many people do not want to think about relocating for their first new job, but if you have no ties and are losing more and more time away from the hospital, then I would highly recommend you consider this decision for your career. I am currently located in Bismarck and there are some upsides and downsides to my experience at my hospital/area.

Pros

1. This place is booming, many new jobs.

2. Other transplants are here

3. Progressing my career and being trained in WHAT I WANT

4. Small town, easy to get to work

5. My housing is cheap for what I am paying.(Although you have to really look)

6. Best nurse aides I have seen yet!

7. Compact state, I have a Texas nursing license.

8. Even though pay is low they are in need and you can rack in quite a bit of overtime and incentives.

9. People here are very friendly

10. Some LPNs are still active in the hospital, and they are a great asset to have. These are old school LPNs who will help any new grad that comes across their path. I have had 5 shifts so far and am grateful they are there for me.

Cons

1. I wish food was cheaper(Texas food is dirt cheap)

2. Small town

3. Not very multicultural

4. I don't like my hospitals charting system

5. Cold weather(It snowed yesterday)

6. I moved here not knowing anybody.

7. I wish pay was better

ND Has a true nursing shortage and if your career progression means anything to you, you should send an application out here.

I would also like to add even though I get paid 22.79 an hour.

I am still making 44k+ a year before overtime. Every week you do not work you are losing your grip on your skills, experience(whatever we do have), and about 1k a week.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/st+alexius+street+view+bismarck/@46.806396,-100.777594,3a,75y,247.44h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sQjBrez-Q1Iskm03jiHNlfA!2e0

Street view of the hospital.

Talent Specialists Help Keep Bismarck Hospital Staffed on Vimeo - This is a video online that was posted on the local news in regards to needing nurses

8/7/2014 so I am reaching 4 months soon. My experience here has been fun, Learning everyday and the doctors, lpns, and experienced nurses have been pretty helpful in teaching me. I deal with hospitalists and oncologists frequently. I picked up a 12 hour today. which is actually 2x my hourly wage.(OT+pick up incentive).

My Personal life? There are more transplants than expected. My coworkers invite me out for a beer after a long chain of shifts. So I have been having a good time out here.

I have 0 regrets

8/11/2014 I was told that ER does not take new grads, ICU does in some situations.

9/16/2014- Today is the 5 month mark since I have came to North Dakota. I am currently in Houston visiting family and am always amazed by the Houston Medical Center. However... I hate the weather here and the traffic.

I sometimes wish I could see different procedures/get into ER, but I am not in any place to request such a thing.... atleast for now... I do not miss the humidity of Houston, nor do I miss the traffic. I have friends already giving chemo after 6 months of training but they follow particular protocols and standing orders which I noticed my hospital lacks. She does work in a top 10 pediatric hospital though... So there are differences. My cousin has also said she could get me a job in Oncology ICU(MD Anderson), however I do not think I am ready to come back to Texas anytime soon. As I have said in the past. If I wanted just a job, I would have stayed in Texas. I have had many personal hardships of why I moved to ND to try to escape some of my past problems(I had 3 family members that have died).(2x cancer 1x Suicide). The world is such a big place and it would be an insult to limit it. I had a long talk with my cousin and my friends who participated in formal residency programs versus mine. one is a nurse for 4+ years and the other is a nurse of 8 months. You learn on the job, regardless of how much learning you have. Especially in specialization like Oncology. Entering medical oncology has not been anything I have regret. If anything, their talk has reinforced my outlook on this experience of medical(jack of all trades) and being able to take care of oncology patients which is the core reason of why I became a nurse. The point of this thread was to help people get a job, and to show my appreciation of the hospital and their staff.

To sum it up. Month: 5.... No regrets... although... Winter is coming....

10/10/14

So a little update. My competence has been rising and I feel much better about my job. There are always things I am going to feel uneasy about but that is normal for everything. So I Just ask my TL or coworkers for help. I never ever feel uneasy to ask them about anything, regardless of how minor or major it is.

I am moving into my 6th month. The nursing direction of my unit and dialysis walked up to me and said my name was mentioned in a survey from patients. So That made my day. I try to have great bedside manner and make sure the patients are well up to date with their care and knowing what meds they are taking, rather than blindly sitting in the hospital room. We currently have 8 people on orientation on my floor. This is a huge wave and it seems like it will be much better for the local nurses here. The hospital is trying to expand but they do not have the staff # to make up for it. Chemo training starts in a week and a half. I took my provider card. Time flies and I feel like I am gaining a skill that finally separates me as a specialized nurse vs my friends in other floors such as Tele(cardiac drips), ER,& icu(Critical care)

11/23/2014

So it does feel weird moving into my 7th month, I really do enjoy my floor. I do have an awesome workplace and am very happy about it. We had a huge wave of transplant new grads that just came in where there were about 9 people that started on my floor. Some of the other local new grads were a little shocked about being assigned to areas where you go when you are "ready to fly on your own". I do enjoy my job as days go on, but I feel burned out when I bust out 60+ hours in a week. I start getting aching pain on my back. I do pick up quite a bit of shifts still. I have worked maybe about 160+ extra hours over the past 4 months. Everytime I pick up an additional shift I feel that I still do learn even more.

I honestly think the fact I enjoy my job, makes it easy to pick up additional hours.

I do have the standard "Monitor patients" days, but the ones that keep me busy are the ones when we are forming the plan of care and whats wrong with the patient. Diagnosis is the hardest time of treating the patient.

Sometimes I ask the attendingwhat the plan is? and he responds.... "I dont know, I am getting some consults". Thats when I know it will be alot of work.

We have other times when I ask him what the plan is. He may say "Standard pneumonia patient" which is usually easy. I feel that I am very easily able to function on my own. However, there are still many things that I need to learn.

Example: I was wondering where all the COPD patients have been, but when the cold dry air comes... The COPD patients come out and play.

2/9/2015

I am approaching my 10 months.

I have grown tired of taking care of medical. It isn't for me, I do like the oncology side and I have been doing chemotherapy administration for nearly 3 months. I am happy with my decision of coming to North Dakota still, but I am ready to move on. My floor is still short on staff and they need people. It gives us a lot of opportunities to pick up and make extra money. I have made 45k over 7 months last year granted I did work a lot.

I have traveled to Houston, Fargo, Seattle, and New York since I have been here. I plan on going to Denver in maybe a month.

I have already have 2 phone interviews for Seattle. They called within a week, I am honestly kind of shocked. I didn't think I would get a call back that fast and decided to apply a little early. I am excited about the move but a little sad about all leaving all the people I have met here.

However North Dakota is not for me, it has never been for me, but this has been a great learning experience. I know that my learning is still not over. I am getting a little ancy and feel that I need to look into my Master's or become a CNS.

03/04/2015

I am in my 11th month now. I have put in my verbal notice that I will be leaving in mid April. I told her I would still continue and try to pull more people for the hospital. I have applied for countless places. Many people are surprised that I would be taking care of septic patients, chemotherapy administration, and the fact I went out of my way and on my own terms took my ONS Chemotherapy/Biotherapy course. I have had a number of call backs with atleast 50%+ call back for interviews. It is truly amazing to be getting all these calls.

I am leaning toward more of a travel position but this BMT unit in Denver sounds amazing.

I have had a total of 6 interviews(another in a few hours) I have turned down 2 reference checks parts of the app because I wanted oncology. I have also turned down an interview with the VA hospital, it sounds sweet but I still want oncology.

Acute stroke intervention, Chemotherapy, sepsis, Oncology are big things to take care of. You start realizing how crazy your experience is when you start to leave.

3/7/2015

I have now accepted a travel job in University of Iowa in a BMT unit. I will be there for the next 3 months. It seems like a solid facility and really amazing. I will have to do quite a bit of reading on BMT patients.

It was pretty much an instajob offer. I am looking forward to it. I am glad I came out here for this job experience.

For any more information I can answer it. There is another biography thread about the hospital being continued on from whatsmyusername at https://allnurses.com/nursing-first-job/new-grad-at-977856.html

3/14/2015

Iowa fell through, which I am glad about... because I signed a contract for a travel position at Stanford Hospital in Palo Alto, CA in Oncology which I am going to pursue as a perm. I never thought a hospital such as that would consider me. The contract has been signed, I have been flown out there to obtain my CA License. It is kind of shocking that all of this is falling into place for me.

Specializes in Hematology/Oncology.
I went into nursing for 3 reasons: 1) It's a job where you are doing good and bettering humanity 2) I thought I could easily stay in CA, and 3) I wanted to work in public health and eventually run a clinic and help the very very poor. I wanted to be a nurse for those 3 reasons. I don't care if they aren't "passionate" or "profound" enough reasons, so judge me all you want about them.

I was thinking of doing biology pre-med in high school, but chose not to because my heart wasn't in it. Most of us thought about a variety of different careers before choosing nursing. Does that make us "not passionate enough"?

I am doubting my decision to go into nursing because I am so nervous about finding a job that I enjoy. Some of you are fine in the Midwest, but I know I will be miserable outside California. I'll take it if I need to, but I will do so with a lot of stress and doubts about whether or not I should have studied something that would allow me to stay close to home. Life is more than just a job, and I have many other "passions" outside nursing like my family, and having access to a ton of beautiful and safe natural walkways.

The rates are around 50% here. Looking at the class of 2013 grads, 50% managed to somehow stay in California. I don't need a "glamour job" at the hospital, just ANY job.

I am not judging you, but to have the idea that you should have just gone to med school because of the acceptance rate is a little ridiculous.

You are right. Life is more than just a job, many others(unlike me) have students loans to pay off for. On top of that you are letting your career go because the worse thing than a new grad nurse is a old new grad nurse that hasnt been in the hospital for years.

You cannot enjoy life if you do not have a stable job and there has to be a starting point. You may be fine getting a job, but maybe your school is lucky. I have friends from cali here that say that employment is about 35% for their classes.

I just wanted to give a quick update from my decision to apply in ND. Less than 24 hours after I applied to the position/speciality I've always wanted, the HR recruiter called to warn me about the VERY HIGH cost of living in Williston, ND and if I was still interested. Due to the oil boom, Williston ND is now the most expensive place to live in the country. "A 700-square-foot, one-bedroom apartment in Williston costs an average of $2,394 a month"; Link for reference --> (Rent in Williston, N.D. tops averages in New York City and Los Angeles - NY Daily News ). Of course this doesn't mean the entire state costs that much, but at least 2 cities in ND are now in the top 5 most expensive cities in the U.S. soooo....I think that idea is over for me.

Specializes in Hematology/Oncology.
I just wanted to give a quick update from my decision to apply in ND. Less than 24 hours after I applied to the position/speciality I've always wanted, the HR recruiter called to warn me about the VERY HIGH cost of living in Williston, ND and if I was still interested. Due to the oil boom, Williston ND is now the most expensive place to live in the country. "A 700-square-foot, one-bedroom apartment in Williston costs an average of $2,394 a month"; Link for reference --> (Rent in Williston, N.D. tops averages in New York City and Los Angeles* - NY Daily News ). Of course this doesn't mean the entire state costs that much, but at least 2 cities in ND are now in the top 5 most expensive cities in the U.S. soooo....I think that idea is over for me.

Bismarck/Mandan area. I am paying 775 with heating,(water and air) included. I wouldn't move to williston if I was a girl.

I just wanted to give a quick update from my decision to apply in ND. Less than 24 hours after I applied to the position/speciality I've always wanted, the HR recruiter called to warn me about the VERY HIGH cost of living in Williston, ND and if I was still interested. Due to the oil boom, Williston ND is now the most expensive place to live in the country. "A 700-square-foot, one-bedroom apartment in Williston costs an average of $2,394 a month"; Link for reference --> (Rent in Williston, N.D. tops averages in New York City and Los Angeles* - NY Daily News ). Of course this doesn't mean the entire state costs that much, but at least 2 cities in ND are now in the top 5 most expensive cities in the U.S. soooo....I think that idea is over for me.

North Dakota is a big state... they happen to have a BIG oil boom right now which has raised rents IN THOSE AREAS to ridiculous amounts however there are plenty of hospitals outside the oil areas that hire new grads that have reasonable rents. I looked in NoDak when I graduated

Specializes in LTC, Psych, M/S.

http://www.bakkentoday.com/event/article/id/33759/

Lots of people living in camp trailers in the "boom" areas

hey Delgadido, am thinking about moving to Bismarck. Thanks for commenting on my post in the other thread. Is it safe for a female to run/hike/do outdoorsy stuff in Bismarck alone? Like you, I won't know anyone and will probably be on my own in the beginning. Thanks for your feedback!

Specializes in Hematology/Oncology.
hey Delgadido, am thinking about moving to Bismarck. Thanks for commenting on my post in the other thread. Is it safe for a female to run/hike/do outdoorsy stuff in Bismarck alone? Like you, I won't know anyone and will probably be on my own in the beginning. Thanks for your feedback!

This is a good place. People here are generally friendly. I have met 3+ single female nurses here and have recruited one coming at the end of hte month

Thank you for posting this. It is encouraging to know there ARE places out there hiring new grad nurses!!

Did you obtain your ND license my endorsement? If so, how long did it take and what was the cost? Does your hospital start new grads in the ER? (dream job :) )

I'm a new grad RN in MN. I'm stuck here for the next year but am open to relocating next year.

Specializes in Hematology/Oncology.
Thank you for posting this. It is encouraging to know there ARE places out there hiring new grad nurses!!

Did you obtain your ND license my endorsement? If so, how long did it take and what was the cost? Does your hospital start new grads in the ER? (dream job :) )

I'm a new grad RN in MN. I'm stuck here for the next year but am open to relocating next year.

I cant say if they are hiring in ER. I took a medical/oncology floor so I can get some oncology experience. I have a friend and coworkers here from MN, some from Illinois, cali, etc

Specializes in Critical Care.

i have been thinking about relocating to find a new grad job and your post is especially inspiring. if biskmark ND is hiring new grad nurses, then i am interested and willing to contract with them for at least two years as well. have any advice for applying to ND? did you just do a quick search for ND hospitals and apply all over? how long did it take for you to get a response?

Specializes in LTC, Psych, M/S.

I would also check into SD, WY, NE. I just looked at some facilities in these states and there were multiple entry level jobs posted.

Specializes in Hematology/Oncology.
i have been thinking about relocating to find a new grad job and your post is especially inspiring. if biskmark ND is hiring new grad nurses, then i am interested and willing to contract with them for at least two years as well. have any advice for applying to ND? did you just do a quick search for ND hospitals and apply all over? how long did it take for you to get a response?

The contract is only for 1 year. Sanford accepts in Bismarck/fargo accepts bsns. St. Alexius accepts all RNs. Fargo is a pretty fun looking town, however... I wanted oncology exp, so I went to St. Alexius

I got calls from all sites. However I have had epic training and I think that may have played a role in my job calls(for sanford).

I got a call within a week. I got the job within 2 weeks. Any particular speciality?

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