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I wouldn't be concerned about defending yourself against libel at this point. In order to win in a libel action you would need to prove damages, or losses, which unless you lose your job is unlikely. Also it sounds like it would be hard to collect on a civil suit with this patient.
As to other needs for representation, I need to say that although I understand asking a patient to uncross their legs to get an accurate B/P, I have never seen a nurse ask someone to place their feet shoulder width apart. If someone asked me to do that to do a B/P check I would be uncomfortable due to the strangeness of the request, especially if the clinician reinforced the request with ANY touch, foot or otherwise. Given that this was a psych patient I would have been especially careful. I'm sorry, but I see a lapse in clinical judgment here. The feet apart stance is part of a standing exercise to lower blood pressure, and your assessment's objective should have been to get an accurate baseline.
Were I you I wouldn't go so far as to retain counsel until I saw what next steps were taken as a result of the complaint. But I'd be prepared by having researched representation options, and I'd be ready to engage at the first sign of any proceedings, employment or otherwise.
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I can only echo what Sour Lemon and Kitallic said, nur5emarte, and reinforce the BP check and touching thing. If a patient is running a high BP, I'll encourage relaxation and the like to see if it isn't a transient situation.
I'm especially careful around those with an axis II diagnosis.
Having worked in psych on and off for nearly 35 years, I have been accused on numerous occasions of inappropriate behavior, e.g. having sex in the soiled utility room and another who accused me of rape. Nothing has ever come of these accusations after the initial investigation.
I hope this passes without incident, nur5emarte, and becomes merely a learning situation.
The very best to you.
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A problem with the patient with Borderline Personality Disorder is nothing to fool around with. I have seen nurses lose their jobs due to their "complaints".
You must have documentation from your supervisor regarding your report of the incident. I hope your documentation of the incident is spot on. You can go back and add an addendum.
I would notify my malpractice carrier... and be ready to lawyer up.
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I would not touch a borderline patient without asking their consent first, unless they were about to hurt themselves or others. It would be a great thing to do the same with everyone, but nursing is a touchy profession. But borderlines, or anyone a bit out of touch with reality...I try to get clear consent, and let them know what is happening and why.
Insisting someone be in a particular position for a blood pressure is a bit anal. Moving them without permission is pushy, though your intentions might be benign. So many choices are taken away from our patients, she may have had a "last straw" moment.
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As others have said, borderline patients are a risk management nightmare and I avoid them at all costs. I've been fired by several and have yet to shed a tear about it. That being said I would make sure that their medical record reflects the facts of your care, and I would be writing an email with the facts of the situation to your manager and risk management.
This patient clearly had ulterior motive in not wanting to provide a urine sample, and was looking for a reason for you to give her the script without her providing a urine sample.
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I would not touch a borderline patient without asking their consent first, unless they were about to hurt themselves or others. It would be a great thing to do the same with everyone, but nursing is a touchy profession. But borderlines, or anyone a bit out of touch with reality...I try to get clear consent, and let them know what is happening and why.Insisting someone be in a particular position for a blood pressure is a bit anal. Moving them without permission is pushy, though your intentions might be benign. So many choices are taken away from our patients, she may have had a "last straw" moment.
You are blaming the victim. The nurse can obtain clear consent, the borderline will deny giving it.
The position requested for obtaining correct BP is good practice.
Borderlines are always at the last straw moment.
Sour Lemon
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I wouldn't bother with a lawyer for this. I would make sure the hard facts were recorded for future reference, though. You're probably not the first person she's made an unfounded complaint against.