We have all dealt with chronic care patients who keep coming back to the hospital because they have COPD and refuse to stop smoking, have CHF but can't be bothered to be compliant with their medications, or they are ESRD but they won't change their lifestyle, yet expect to be rescued whenever they eat a bucket of chicken while drinking a case of soda but can't make their dialysis appointment.
A more experienced nurse told me in my first two years of nursing that she thought 20% of the population used 80% of hospital and healthcare resources. I admit my dentist has used every tactic to try to get me to floss daily... what can I say? Some habits are best learned when very young - I just can't get it done. That point being, that even intelligent people (me...LOL) can't always be made to follow a long term treatment plan if the risk of not following it, doesn't feel real.
Covid antivaxxers... I am sorry to say I am all dystopian fantasy about this. It is all those chronic illness frustrations rolled into risk of death in the fast lane scenario. I am nearly radicalized. I think that anyone who refuses to mask, get vaccinated, wash their hands while propagating myths about fake news should be required to get a special tattoo.
Then when they show up in the ED with Covid symptoms, and test positive... we ask to see the spot where the tattoo is mandated to be placed. When it proves they are fake news antivaxxers... they are escorted out of the hospital by a team in space suits to "the fairgrounds". The fairgrounds has a fence and armed guards and plenty of organic food, water, shelter, sleeping arrangements.... no phones, no computers, no Fox News, no radio.... make them be inside their own heads. Have them reassure each other it isn't real until those around them die. If they actually survive and can agree to be vaccinated before being released... then they can be released.
My county is full of fake news people. We have a vaccination rate of 49% county wide. Covid admissions are up in the region and at our hospital. We don't have that big of a hospital. Having 8-11 Covid cases is a lot for us. 2 of the 12 ICU beds and the nurses caring for them is a lot.
You don't believe Covid is real? Then we will allow you to continue with your thoughts and beliefs when you contract it, you will battle it alone at "the fairgrounds". Yes visitors are welcome... but if they enter, they cannot leave.
Seriously... we need the right to refuse to serve those who threaten our lives and families. They expect to be saved? Darwinian ideas full scale. We are only interfering with it when we try to save these idiots.
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5 minutes ago, Jeckrn1 said:
Words can also make you not see the truth when it is happening before your eyes. Can you now believe the propaganda machine (MSM) which denied the truth for the last 4 years.
Trump was the propaganda machine of record for the last 4 years and particularly the first year of the pandemic. His administration politicized the pandemic.
What police state actions are you talking about? Is Michigan the state where the police attacked the mask and shutdown protestors at the state capitol, pepper sprayed and arrested them? No?
The bill they are trying to pass in NY for one. Really? This is not Argentina.
They don't see it that way. Most people who bully or shame others won't ever acknowledge it. Anyone who supports this post shows they don't care about the rights or feelings of others.
I agree 100%! They are espousing communist ideologies and don’t even realize it. They want to force others to think, behave, and believe just as they do, and those that don’t should be kept in concentration camps and marked with tattoos? WTH is wrong with you all? This is exactly what happened in communist Germany during the Holocaust. Apparently it is true that people never learn from history.
I agree 100%! They are espousing communist ideologies and don’t even realize it. They want to force others to think, behave, and believe just as they do, and those that don’t should be kept in concentration camps and marked with tattoos? WTH is wrong with you all? This is exactly what happened in communist Germany during the Holocaust. Apparently it is true that people never learn from history.
They are trying to make it happen in NY so... they need to be careful what they wish for.
So … if bullying is OK, what’s been your point in this thread? That the bully with the best zingers and calling the most cutting names is right? Are you advocating the replacement of critical thinking with trial by combat?
2 minutes ago, Disappointed by my colleagues said:
This is exactly what happened in communist Germany during the Holocaust.
You do not apparently know any history. The holocaust was preformed by FASCISTS not communists. In fact Communists were targeted by the Nazis. Please get your facts correct before you post
So … if bullying is OK, what’s been your point in this thread? That the bully with the best zingers and calling the most cutting names is right? Are you advocating the replacement of critical thinking with trial by combat?
So the mask mandate targeted minorities? Low income workers were targeted by "essential worker" concepts, they are often non-whites and immigrants.
The mandates assume minorities can’t think for themselves because they are getting vaccinated at lower rates than white people. New York City’s vaccine mandate, for example, will not allow many minorities from participating in normal society.
1 minute ago, GrumpyRN said:
You do not apparently know any history. The holocaust was preformed by FASCISTS not communists. In fact Communists were targeted by the Nazis. Please get your facts correct before you post
It doesn’t matter which side someone is on, left or right. What matters is that when the government has control, that control can be abused - communist or fascist.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
11 minutes ago, Jeckrn1 said:
Words can also make you not see the truth when it is happening before your eyes. Can you now believe the propaganda machine (MSM) which denied the truth for the last 4 years.
What are you refereeing to as MSM? Let's start with this...I haven't had cable television for many years, I read for my information having several digital subscriptions. I rely on the scientific journals for covid information.
Now...which truths do you believe were being denied about covid for the last 18 months? Trump told many untruths about covid and elections in 2020.
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Trump was the propaganda machine of record for the last 4 years and particularly the first year of the pandemic. His administration politicized the pandemic.