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Or, $7,500 if you just want her virtually. Good to know that negligent homicide is such a lucrative endeavor.
CWS RN said:Actually, no. They are not.
That's why this one has set a dangerous precedent.
Even if this did set a precedent (it didn't), it's one I'm morally and ethically okay with. This was gross incompetence and reckless behavior and someone died because of it. I'm 100% okay with us all being held to this standard.
too many lazy incompetent healthcare "professionals" who don't take their job and responsibility seriously and I wish they would all go work at McDonald's instead and leave the actual patient care to those of us who know what we're doing.
Here is a good article that explains the difference between plain old medical malpractice, and that which enters the realm of criminal negligence. The "reckless disregard that involves significant deviation from standard of care" is one such factor.
CWS RN said:That's why this one has set a dangerous precedent
dangerous how? for who? what precedent? plenty of case law regarding negligence manslaughter abuse etc
a jury heard all of the evidence deliberated 4 hours and rendered 2 guilty verdicts
judge sentenced based on input from state and defense and whoever wrote in I know at least a few - 3 years + 2 years supervised probation concurrent with record expunged if completed without problem
also lifetime listing on abuse registry and no nursing license
otherwise carry on that's how this all works what parts don't you understand?
I understand that we all have a different approach to the facts. Some are global. Some polarized.
despite facts...keirkegard is correct.
"REALITY IS SUBJECTIVITY "
I am involved in research and statistical analysis regarding this very thing (medical deaths, errors, negligence). including forensics.
And no, I'm not able to relay specifics of classified information, so questions will continue to be ignored.
All I will say is, be very careful with your research. Thinking there is only a handful of criminal negligence cases regarding medical deaths is inaccurate..., and spreading inaccuracies is incredibly dangerous.
Just culture is largely absent in this thread.
I am not protecting RV. I am not protecting the system.
It confuses me to see these responses. I have been questioned aggressively about my nursing practice. To what end?
We a know RV F'D up to the highest magnitude.
Thinking humans are infallible to same is astounding. We are humans. Not robots.
The whole thing is devastating.
if we prosecilute one...they all get charged..and I understand exactly how very many would be charged. 5 is a joke.
I am a 20 year veteran. Including ICU, ER, NEUROTRAUMA, MED SURG, LTAC, LTC, STR, HH. RESEARCH, WOUND CARE,
***EXPERT WITNESS AND FORENISIC NURSING.
There is an expression that fits here...
"You can't make a blind man see orange."
Live gently, embrace others, have compassion. In all directions. Charlene, her family, RV, all hospital systems that failed, and human beings. Everyone. This includes nurses that say that this could happen to anyone....
So with the decision to attack in this thread..., think about the fact that no one knows what the other nurse has seen, experienced, and lived. Maybe it's time to accept our general lack of knowledge about other situations. Put our fingers down. and think. Deeply.
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Wuzzie said:This was addressed in another related thread. Since 1980 there have been 5 medication related death/significant harm events (not including serial killers but that's a different topic) that have come to trial. Five...out of thousands of events. The sky is not falling and will not. We can let go of our pearls.
That you know of.
CWS RN said:I understand that we all have a different approach to the facts. Some are global. Some polarized.
despite facts...keirkegard is correct.
"REALITY IS SUBJECTIVITY "
I am involved in research and statistical analysis regarding this very thing (medical deaths, errors, negligence). including forensics.
And no, I'm not able to relay specifics of classified information, so questions will continue to be ignored.
All I will say is, be very careful with your research. Thinking there is only a handful of criminal negligence cases regarding medical deaths is inaccurate..., and spreading inaccuracies is incredibly dangerous.
Just culture is largely absent in this thread.
I am not protecting RV. I am not protecting the system.
It confuses me to see these responses. I have been questioned aggressively about my nursing practice. To what end?
We a know RV F'D up to the highest magnitude.
Thinking humans are infallible to same is astounding. We are humans. Not robots.
The whole thing is devastating.
if we prosecilute one...they all get charged..and I understand exactly how very many would be charged. 5 is a joke.
I am a 20 year veteran. Including ICU, ER, NEUROTRAUMA, MED SURG, LTAC, LTC, STR, HH. RESEARCH, WOUND CARE,
***EXPERT WITNESS AND FORENISIC NURSING.
There is an expression that fits here...
"You can't make a blind man see orange."
Live gently, embrace others, have compassion. In all directions. Charlene, her family, RV, all hospital systems that failed, and human beings. Everyone. This includes nurses that say that this could happen to anyone....
So with the decision to attack in this thread..., think about the fact that no one knows what the other nurse has seen, experienced, and lived. Maybe it's time to accept our general lack of knowledge about other situations. Put our fingers down. and think. Deeply.
✌
That you know of.
It seems that your approach to facts about this case is to ignore those which don't fit with your beliefs about what happened. You should try to dispel that appearance.
Wuzzie
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This was addressed in another related thread. Since 1980 there have been 5 medication related death/significant harm events (not including serial killers but that's a different topic) that have come to trial. Five...out of thousands of events. The sky is not falling and will not. We can let go of our pearls.