"You cannot have BSN or MSN on your nametag?"

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Hello,

My supervisor told me tonight that HR was getting complaints from patients stating, "The BSN nurse gave better care than the non-BSN nurse." End result, only RN will go on namebadge.

I do not want to debate whether BSN nurses are better or worse. What I would like feedback on is:

1.) Can a hospital legally take away your title of RN, BSN or RN MSN, etc.?

2.) I personally feel that is a "slap" in the face and demoralizes nursing and education! Am I the only one who feels like this?

Specializes in Nursing Education, CVICU, Float Pool.

Many truly believe that to get the best nurse I must get the one with the more years in formal education. I agree that it might be best to just limit the credentials to just RN (at least with staff or floor nurses), why?

1. It eliminates any confusion with the patients. They need to know your and RN, not which path you took to get there.

2. If the patient doesn't know what education level the RN has then maybe it lower the complaints because they won't know if they have an ADN prepared nurse or a BSN or MSN prepared nurse.

3. Having the whole alphabet behind your name is a little draining.

If I see a nurse with RN, BSN on their name tag, it personally wouldn't bother me. It does seem much more simple and less conflict risk to just put RN unless you are in management or something to that effect.

To be honest I've never understood the purpose in putting your educational credentials behind your professional title unless it effected your position (i.e. a manager or DON).Then again there are plenty of things that people do that make absolutely no sense to me.

What's going to happen if you do or do not put BSN behind your name?

Will your peers look down on you?

Will you feel like less of a nurse?

Will you feel better that those without that particular credential?

Why don't you get the RN, BSN embroidered on your scrubs?

:D:yeah::clown:

Specializes in med-surg, med-psych, psych.

:hhmth:alphabet soup name badge levity

lpn, phd (now what, bsn people?)

rn, s.a.n.e (true certification: sexual assault nurse examiner, explain that to a patient over & over)

cna, phd (a nurse assistant doctor?)

lpn, rn (earned both and want to acknowledge both, different roles right?)

rn, adn, ba, msn (no bsn, and earned all)

reality check: so who get's relieved from emptying that bedpan? ...

...no one. so just maybe real nurse is all we really need on a name badge.

mine is rn, bs, ma, ... pressured, so soon to add bsn, next msn...not!

please don't slam me...just having some fun!!!!!!:clown:

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.

They only have to put RN that is your licensed to do......be a registered nurse. Your educational background is not required and can legally be omitted. Have you ever seen "General Manage ,MBA" ? no RN is what you are licensed to be reguardless of how many years you went to school. Sucks....but true......they also can place certifications on name tags as you were certified in that skill or specialty

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
:hhmth:alphabet soup name badge levity

lpn, phd (now what, bsn people?)

rn, s.a.n.e (true certification: sexual assault nurse examiner, explain that to a patient over & over)

cna, phd (a nurse assistant doctor?)

lpn, rn (earned both and want to acknowledge both, different roles right?)

rn, adn, ba, msn (no bsn, and earned all)

reality check: so who get's relieved from emptying that bedpan? ...

...no one. so just maybe real nurse is all we really need on a name badge.

mine is rn, bs, ma, ... pressured, so soon to add bsn, next msn...not!

please don't slam me...just having some fun!!!!!!:clown:

how about ....rn, adn, bsn,msn,crfn, cen, ccrn, crni,cvrn, tncc,acls,palc,enpc,apls, need i go on?:lol2:

I'm a student and I'm going for my BSN and I honestly don't care whether its on my badge or not however, if I get a certification such as CPN then I would want that on my badge IF I'm working in that field. Does it mean I'm better? Not at all but it does mean I have expertise in that field. Now if I'm doing Psych or Dialysis, I don't really think they'd give a crap that I'm certified in pediatrics, in fact that might make them think I don't know how to care for adults! So I probably wouldn't want it on my badge then.

To wrap it up, RN is fine, most people don't even know what a BSN, ADN is. I'd rather explain what being certified in pediatrics is than explaining I got a bachelors, she got an associates but we passed the same licensing exam.

first of all, yes they can take take those off the badges. they made them and as long as what they call you is true they can do it.

second, they can take it off the badge but they are not taking it away from you. you know what you earned and how long it took you to get it. continue performing at your best no matter what your title is or what your tag says.

my facility tried that for a while, but now they are back at it. they claim that it will hopefully encourage employees to further their education.

while we all agree that RN is the title,we should also recognize that nursing has this discrepancy because we dont have a universal entry level.

Its time they fixed that....

An RN BSN may not necessarily be a better nurse than an RN ASN but this issue is going to be on debate forever if something is not done about it.

There should be a universal entry level,ideally a Bachelor's degree,just like most professional careers.

please don't slam me...just having some fun!!!!!!:clown:

i am not seeing it as funny.

i don't think anyone should mock the person who posted this. there should be a differentiation for more education as there is in teaching. we get nothing for going for a bsn, and some people want at least some recognition. i don't think it belongs on a nametag but i don't think it is funny either.

Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.

"the new ID badges will be distributed soon and the level on the badge is going on there.

and the levels only mean that if you are part of commetee's & extra activities, so level 1 is basic without extra "activities"and it goes up until level 4"

Wow, talk about muddying the waters. Adding "levels" that mean absolutely nothing to the patient, who has no frame of reference. Most facilities are working hard to present clearer identities among the various staff members instead of adding to the confusion.

Specializes in med-surg, med-psych, psych.
i am not seeing it as funny.

i don't think anyone should mock the person who posted this. there should be a differentiation for more education as there is in teaching. we get nothing for going for a bsn, and some people want at least some recognition. i don't think it belongs on a name tag but i don't think it is funny either.

hey,

for the record: not mocking any persons or passing any judgments.

i already addressed the original thread inquiry ( about the legality) just highlighting the humorous side...there is always a humorous side! :clown:

"humor and playful communication strengthen our relationships by triggering positive feelings and fostering emotional connection. when we laugh with one another, a positive bond is created. this bond acts as a strong buffer against stress, disagreements, and disappointment.

- paul e. mcghee, ph.d.

http://www.humormatters.com

Specializes in Medical Surgical & Nursing Manaagement.

:nurse:Interesting............actually the state can take away your RN but NO ONE can ever take away your degree, therefore, the proper way to write your name would be:

NAME NAME BSN RN CMSRN

Certifications always last

However, I believe the patients and obviously others interpret BSN as "a better nurse". I know and work with associate degree and diploma nurses that are EXCELLENT, better than some BSN prepared nurses. Eventually this won't be a discussion because soon you will have to be BSN to sit for NCLEX.

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