"disturbed Energy Field" ...Really?

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Hello Everyone,

Like many fellow students, I've got my nose in the Pocket Guide as a resource for using patient data to create care plans. My intent here is not to debate the usefulness of Care Plans or Nursing Diagnosis.

Quite a few authors have written about the pains the nursing profession has gone through to gain credibility, - from the public, from doctors, and from administrators. Our curriculum is lousy with buzzwords like Critical Thinking, Objective Data, Scientific Method, Theory....on and on.

According to a few authors, like Suzanne Gordon in "Nursing Against the Odds," Nursing Diagnosis is currently looked on by many outside nursing (and many inside) as unintelligible nonsense filled with verbal gymnastics to avoid mentioning medical diagnosis. Before we even began studying nursing process, one of my fellow students noted, "That Diagnosis stuff is pure BS." I didn't concur because I had not studied it yet. It looks to me like the system described could be useful.

But when you have something like "Disturbed Energy Field" as a NANDA-I diagnosis, aren't we just proving the critics right? One of the Nursing Priorities laid out in the Nurse's Pocket Guide is to, "Evaluate the Energy Field." This consists of "Moving hands slowly over client at a level of 2 to 6 inches above to the skin to assess the state of energy field and flow of energy within the system." There is more of this magician snake oil healer intervention the nurse is supposed to perform following that "procedure": "Perform unruffling process, keeping hands 2 to 6 inches away from client's body to dissipate impediments to free flow of energy within the system and between the nurse and the client."

Please. This new age claptrap was debunked decades ago. If you disagree, then you must be able to feel, manipulate, and heal energy fields and auras and whatnot. Good for you, a guy named James Randi has a million dollars waiting for you if you can prove it. Trouble is, every time a scientific inquiry was performed - the practitioner failed. Here's his website:

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

I'm fine if the client reports subjectively that their, "Chakras are jammed," or they are, "having trouble breathing through their left eyelid." But the acceptance of this snake oil - complete with shaman/nurse interventions - only hurts the profession and gives ammunition to those who belittle the Nursing Process

I don't have any problem with people seeking this type of healing intervention at all if they believe in it. But does it belong in the nursing profession? If a client claims they are possessed by a demon, we don't perform an exorcism for pity's sake. We call psych and social services right before the priest in that case (and keep an eye on all three of them!).

Why isn't this type of hoodoo kept in the psychic healer/palm reader/faith healer fraud shop where it belongs? Couldn't we at least ship it over to Chiropractic?

Thanks,

dc

Specializes in ED.

I have yet to use a single nursing diagnosis in 4 years. I don't even remember most of them. If I think the pt might have pneumonia, I'll just write all the s/s in my note and put them on the pneumonia protocol. I don't think much of nursing DX. I have a nursing DX for some of my pts: toradol deficiency secondary to excessive whining.

First of all, you're never going to have to lay hands on someone and assess their energy field when you get out in clinicals and on the job. Second of all, I don't think it's any crazier for someone to believe their "chakras are jammed" than for someone to believe their "faith is being tested" during illness. I think spirituality in whatever form it comes in (as long as it's positive) is great and really assists with the healing process.

I understand perfectly I am never going to do this (nor is anyone else apparently), that is one of my problems with seeing it in the professional literature. It's idiotic.

I completely agree with you that saying your "chakras are jammed" is equally crazy as saying, "my faith is being tested."

However, in the latter case, we don't get out the strychnine and snakes to actually test their faith. Don't get me wrong, I am all for the patient's right to their spiritual beliefs and I'll be the very first to call in the witch doctor and provide privacy for them to practice, but I ain't gonna be the one sacrificing any live roosters.

I think most of the spiritual beliefs I have used in an example in this thread came from the movie Bull Durham. Great flick!

Don't be so narrow minded. Western Medicine is not the only thing out there that works. If you keep your attitude you will find you will have problems with your patients of different cultures. Read "When the Spirit Catches You", a little girl is extremely disabled because of the narrow minded Western Medicine focused views. Weather you believe in "energy fields" or not your patient may. I had a labor patient tell me I had positive energy when I touched her, I still consider it a huge complement. Just because it is not something you are use to and probably do not understand does not mean it is mumbo-jumbo.

That is not the point of this thread. Ok guys, this has nothing to do with getting in the way of peoples cultural or religious beliefs. However, if we as nurses expect to be taken seriously, our methodology must revolve around best practice. Currently, that stems from evidence based medicine. Spiritual energy fields are not evidence based. Does this mean we deny peoples beliefs or practices, absolutely not; however, if a nursing diagnosis is really a response to a disease process (actual evidence based physiology mechanisms), then energy field nursing diagnoses have no place among the list of official nursing diagnoses IMHO. We have multiple diagnoses that cover spiritual and cultural beliefs and psychological well being; however, throwing in something with no real base of evidence is not warranted.

Support our patients beliefs, absolutely. Integrate a concept with no evidence into our theoretical frame work, absolutely not. I hope people see the difference.

Specializes in Surgery, Tele, OB, Peds,ED-True Float RN.
Don't be so narrow minded. Western Medicine is not the only thing out there that works. If you keep your attitude you will find you will have problems with your patients of different cultures. Read "When the Spirit Catches You", a little girl is extremely disabled because of the narrow minded Western Medicine focused views. Weather you believe in "energy fields" or not your patient may. I had a labor patient tell me I had positive energy when I touched her, I still consider it a huge complement. Just because it is not something you are use to and probably do not understand does not mean it is mumbo-jumbo.

My problem is not the with energy fields theory... it's nursing diagnosis that I take issue with. I totally believe that people can emit positive (or unfortunately negative energy) that affects a patient's perception of their experiences (e.g. pain). I just think that by trying to be so unique, instead of teaching nsg students a language that can help them communicate with other health professional, nsg is made to look sort of "silly"!

So are many other methods of healing and wellness, especially some that are very prominent in other cultures. Realizing many will jump down my throat, I still suggest you do some reading, maybe think through the basis of the diagnoses you find wierd, and hold your negative opinions until you have more information, OP.

I've actually done quite a bit of research on pseudoscientific claims. No one has been able to confirm the claims or interventions I described. If they have, please point me to them and we'll go collect our million dollars together.

The thing is, it is ridiculously easy to test these claims. For instance, allow the practitioner to do their energy field mapping. Then blindfold the practitioner and have them find the energy field again.

Under controlled conditions, they cannot and their explanation leaves them sounding exactly like Joseph Smith, Jr. Not that a critical inquiry in to his views changes any minds either.

Now, I have no doubt that people of many cultures claim they benefit from this and other types of pseudoscience, but we do have a duty to examine these claims for evidence.

Support our patients beliefs, absolutely. Integrate a concept with no evidence into our theoretical frame work, absolutely not. I hope people see the difference.

Marvelously stated, thank you!

Specializes in trauma, ortho, burns, plastic surgery.

Are not any scientifique bases on these suppositions. You could not play in nursing field with what you "fell", "belive", or "perceive with your third eye", loooool. Nursing is based on facts. Concrete, objective structural facts. A good experimented nurse "could fell" but even these fellings are based on logical structural information, captured by her/him from real world. Vibrations, bioenergy, bla, bla, of course that are at one point.......but please not mess it with nursing world. Nursing even without extrasenses is enough creepy, because we humans we build it like that.

May be you want to mesure the patient's level of pain with one of my pink crystals and touching the hands to feel good/bad vibrations....please....beetwen bully nurses and flying ones...please stay balanced!

Right, so in A&P and all my other pre-reqs we talked about cold hard science. We learned how the body works. There was no mention of ANY of this utter and baseless BS.

I will make no apologies for being from the west and wanting to be involved in medicine. I reckon if you add the two together, voila, that would be western medicine.

Gila, you are right :) Its Physician Assistant :) I stand corrected.

I am serous though guys...if I get to nursing school and hear about chakras and meridians, and detecting energy fields with my hands, the first thing I will do is puke. The immediate next thing is head for the front door, never to be seen there again.

So please if this is the case, please tell me so I dont waste my time. I thought nursing believed in science, not voodoo.

You may talk about it since it appears to be a NANDA ND. I do not expect you will actually assess and use this ND however. You may want to get out before your program begins.

A few words of wisdom however. Much of nursing is what you make it. In addition, every profession has pros and cons. You may think something is BS, just remember, sometimes we have to shut our mouth and preted in order to graduate. I remember being told "false motivation is better than none" as a new recruit in the Army. You will have a difficult time in nursing school without this ability. However, if you manage to get through school, the real education begins and you will be free to work using any medical theory you like.

"disturbed energy field......." or "May the force be with you.":D

Mark

Don't be so narrow minded. Western Medicine is not the only thing out there that works. If you keep your attitude you will find you will have problems with your patients of different cultures. Read "When the Spirit Catches You", a little girl is extremely disabled because of the narrow minded Western Medicine focused views. Weather you believe in "energy fields" or not your patient may. I had a labor patient tell me I had positive energy when I touched her, I still consider it a huge complement. Just because it is not something you are use to and probably do not understand does not mean it is mumbo-jumbo.

I absolutely agree with you. However, I am a trained nurse, and the nursing model I trained in is based on the medical model. Not saying it is better than any other model, but just that this is my training, and these are my skills. If I tried to unclog a chakra while my patient was in shock, I SHOULD go to jail (or at least consider another profession) since I have no idea how to unclog a chakra. I also should not perform an appendectomy on a pt with appendicitis. Not my scope of practice.

"I don't have any problem with people seeking this type of healing intervention at all if they believe in it." me neither.

And hey, if someone says I have good energy, I feel complimented too. It's a nice thing to say, and it's nice to think that I have had a positive effect on someone, albeit inadvertently.

just remember, sometimes we have to shut our mouth and preted in order to graduate. I remember being told "false motivation is better than none" as a new recruit in the Army. You will have a difficult time in nursing school without this ability.

aka "suck it up"

Seriously though, this is extremely wise. At least for me, understanding this has changed my life and allowed me to maintain myself and my own little world as I navigate the normals.

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