Proof There's No Nursing Shortage: Show RN's the MONEY

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This is a case study in how the nursing shortage is really a myth. When you pay RN’s really well and give them great benefits … the shortage, for the most part, disappears. The real solution to the nursing shortage is paying RN’s more money.

This post is going to be long, but I think you’ll find it interesting. Just a little over a year ago, the California Department of Corrections had an RN staff vacancy rate of 40 percent. However, since the level of care was substandard, inmates had filed a lawsuit where a federal judge and receiver took over the prison healthcare system.

To improve the level of care, the judge ordered pay raises last year where corrections RN’s made nearly $80K a year with full state benefits, which are excellent … much better, actually, than most private hospitals. Despite claims that they’re doing everything they can to attract nurses, many hospitals (at least in my area) have actually cut back on benefits (especially pensions) in the last couple of years.

With the first court ordered pay raise, the vacancy rate dropped from 40 percent to 15 percent, which is about the same as staff vacancy rates at California hospitals in my area. That’s a 25 percent reduction in staff vacancies in just a few months. And, this is in California where we supposedly have less nurses per capita than any state other than Alaska.

But the judge didn’t stop there. Since the average California RN already makes more than $70K a year on average, and the judge wanted the prisons to be fully staffed, he ordered yet another pay raise … nearly $90K to start at most facilities beginning this year and, even more pay in the Bay area where the pay and cost of living is higher. Once you put some time in, the pay gets up to $100K at most facilities.

As you know, to make that kind of money with a lot of hospital RN jobs it’s not unusual to have to work two jobs and/or a ton of overtime as well as forfeiting benefits like health insurance, etc. But corrections RN’s did not have to forfeit any benefits in this case. And, while $100K may not be great pay in the Bay Area, it’s fantastic pay in other areas of the state, including where I live.

The result? Not only were the five state prisons in my area fully staffed with RN’s BUT … I discovered that over 3,000 RN’s are now waiting to get hired by the Department of Corrections statewide! In my particular area, each prison had a waiting list of 200-300 RN’s! With a few exceptions, the only available positions were in more rural, isolated areas which have always been difficult to staff.

Could you ever imagine 3,000 RN’s standing in line waiting for jobs at hospitals? Not in a million years but, that’s what’s happened with California Corrections in just a few months because they’re paying so well.

Here’s yet another example of no real nursing shortage. When I realized that the state prisons in my area were fully staffed and there was a waiting list for those jobs, I also applied for positions at the mental health department because they, at least, had some openings. While those RN’s got some but not all of the court ordered pay raises that the corrections RN’s did … the pay and benefits were still much better than local hospitals in my area.

BUT … when I went to the qualifying exam, I discovered that I was competing with 75 RN’s for eight positions. 75 RN’s! That means there were at least 9 RN’s competing for each position. Could you ever imagine 75 RN’s competing for vacancies at any hospital?

It was even worse at the prisons, where the pay is higher. One of the HR staffers told me that when rare openings do occur, there’s at least 30 RN’s competing for each position. 30 RN’s! It was quite a shock, actually. Usually, I could walk into any private hospital and get a job tomorrow, but definitely NOT in this case because the pay and benefits are so much better.

I think the court ordered pay raises have proven that if you don’t nickel and dime RN’s to death and … when you eliminate a bunch of hospital middle men who line their own pockets at RN’s expense … the nursing shortage, for the most part, disappears.

P.S. I did eventually get hired on by corrections in spite of the waiting list but, I had to jump through a bunch of hoops … including getting some prison nursing experience that apparently helped me stand out from dozens of other competing applicants. I just find it ironic that with the supposed nursing shortage in California, I really had to bend over backwards and work every angle I could to get this job.

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It isn't just the pay and benefits. It's workload, mandatory OT or the absence of it, respect, good hours, etc.

Corrections nurses do not deal with visitors, the guards keep them safe (hopefully), and the prisoners know they had better toe the line or they will end up in the hole. Nurses in prison are expected to take up a gun if necessary, too.

Not all that glitters is gold.

It isn't just the pay and benefits. It's workload, mandatory OT or the absence of it, respect, good hours, etc.

Corrections nurses do not deal with visitors, the guards keep them safe (hopefully), and the prisoners know they had better toe the line or they will end up in the hole. Nurses in prison are expected to take up a gun if necessary, too.

Not all that glitters is gold.

Nurses aren't expected to take up guns ... at least where I work. For one thing, you have to be a peace officer to carry a gun ... and RN's aren't peace officers.

We're not expected to do anything that the CO's (corrections officers) do. I've been through a fair number of lockdowns and fights already and they've never asked me to do any of that. My job is to check out the CO's and the inmates for medical problems afterward.

And most of the corrections officers don't carry guns unless they're in the towers and other restricted areas. It's too dangerous to have that many guns around. Pepper spray is the weapon of choice at my facility and nurses don't carry them nor are we trained or expected to use them.

From what I understand LVN's used to carry pepper spray (although I could be wrong) but in California the judge decided that LVN's weren't going to be corrections officers anymore (otherwise known as MTA's which really was a CO/LVN hybrid) because it presented too many conflicts of interest ...

How can you be a patient advocate when you're also responsible for handling and disciplining inmates? That's also the reason why the judge wanted the state to hire more RN's.

So, in California at least, there's been a greater separation between the medical side of things and what the CO's do. This was a big part of the court case that started of all this.

There is mandatory overtime but, with $45 an hour base salary ... I don't mind. Because at nearly $68 an hour, that OT is helping pay me off those student loans a lot faster than I thought it would ... and it's also paying for my new car.

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I work at a forensic hospital in MN. One of the nurses showed me an EMAIL and for the next 2 weeks they were looking for coverage for 81 shifts! There is a real shortage that cannot necessarily be ameliorated by better pay alone. There are real gaps of instructor availability for new nurses. (MN is short roughly 80 instructors).

I work at a forensic hospital in MN. One of the nurses showed me an EMAIL and for the next 2 weeks they were looking for coverage for 81 shifts! There is a real shortage that cannot necessarily be ameliorated by better pay alone.

Actually ... in my neck of the woods ... better pay has made a BIG difference.

While I was waiting to get hired by corrections, I also interviewed with the criminal psych facility in my area. They didn't get as much of a pay raise as the corrections RN's did, but it still was a hellava lot better than hospital pay.

As I mentioned in my original post, 75 RN's were interviewing for eight positions at that facility. That means at least 9 RN's were competing for each job.

So I think pay raises DO make a BIG difference in staffing levels.

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The Institute for Women's Policy Research agrees with the OP. You might find this study on nurses' wages and the supposed shortage interesting.

Interesting article. I am one of those non-working RNs that would consider working if the price was right - and I'm in my early 30s. However, to pay for full time child care for 3 kids only to make $20/hr isn't worth it to me. Yes, that is the wage at my current location. I will be moving in the next year and some of my kids will be school age and with higher wages (everywere but here), and less child care - I will return to the work force.

I go to a toddler playgroup with 8 other non-working nurses. Now 8 non-working nurses sounds like nothing to you city folks, but here on the island with the shortage of nurses we, have 8 nurses is HUGE. We have 3 walk-in clinics and one hospital that is staffed with 1 ER nurse and 4 floor nurses daily. They are currently short 6 nursing positions in town. With 8 of us floating around, if any of those positions spoke up with enough money to justify my time, I'd consider it. I'm sure I can't be the only one thinking that way. And no, I didn't go into nursing for the money - however a decent wage should not be hard to get either.

Interesting article. I am one of those non-working RNs that would consider working if the price was right - and I'm in my early 30s. However, to pay for full time child care for 3 kids only to make $20/hr isn't worth it to me. Yes, that is the wage at my current location. I will be moving in the next year and some of my kids will be school age and with higher wages (everywere but here), and less child care - I will return to the work force.

That's a very good point. You have to wonder: if RN's were paid better so they could afford child care and then some, how many RN's would return to work for that reason alone?

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About the original point of this thread.....I believe that if enough money gets thrown at the hospital nurses, you'd naturally find more nurses applying for those jobs, too. HOWEVER, I can also see not keeping them around for long, either, as I am absolutely certain that understaffing would be the norm, as it is now. Only instead of hearing "we don't have enough applicants" we'd hear "we can't afford to pay all of you what you demand". And we'd have less nurses working for more money, but the turnover would be insane. Hey, kinda like it is now...

Specializes in Acute Care Psych, DNP Student.
Not everyone who is locked up is guilty. You or someone you love could be wrongly accused, convicted, and locked up tomorrow. Then you would feel differently about who should or should not get good health care in prison. There but for the grace of God go you and I.

As for mental health care being for the good of someone other than the mentally ill person - well, yes, but what about the poor suffering mentally ill individual? They did not ask to be born with a sick brain, they did not ask to be victims of personality changes due to head trauma that was induced in a MVA or assault that was in no way their fault. They have to suffer the side effects of psychotropics, which is no laughing matter. They must live a lifetime as 2nd class citizens because they are not able to fully function in the world, due to an illness that is no more their fault than is a, let's say, cleft palate or other birth defect. Have a heart, Hopefull2009. Does the hopeful part mean you are hoping to be an RN?

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About the original point of this thread.....I believe that if enough money gets thrown at the hospital nurses, you'd naturally find more nurses applying for those jobs, too. HOWEVER, I can also see not keeping them around for long, either, as I am absolutely certain that understaffing would be the norm, as it is now. Only instead of hearing "we don't have enough applicants" we'd hear "we can't afford to pay all of you what you demand". And we'd have less nurses working for more money, but the turnover would be insane. Hey, kinda like it is now...

Maybe the turnover wouldn't be as insane if people were making more money. Let's face it ... people are more inclined to quit if they're not making much money to begin with. But I agree that hospitals don't want to pay RN's more money and pretty much will do anything they can to avoid it.

As far as staffing, California does have a ratio law and I think that has helped quite a bit. I also think wages have gone up because of the ratio law although, obviously not nearly as much as what corrections is paying.

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However, on the flip side, things shouldn't be better for people that are in prison than in the private sector, in regards to healthcare. Unless they are pregnant, I personally don't care if they get quality care or not...that's part of the price you pay for breaking the law.

Just my .02

There seems to be a lot of myths about corrections nursing ... in my experience, California inmates don't get better healthcare. They only get what they need, not what they want. The reason the federal judge took over the prison medical system was because many inmates were dying from conditions that should have been addressed but were neglected for months, even years. That's why the judge wanted the state to hire more RN's for their assessment skills.

Just because an inmate has done something wrong like multiple DUI's or dealing/using drugs ... it doesn't mean he's not entitled to do his time and serve his sentence. An inmate shouldn't die in prison just because the staff neglected to send him to the hospital when, for example, he experienced a heart attack. Most inmates aren't on death row ... it's not supposed to be a death sentence due to neglect.

And believe me ... the inmates who are faking with the hope that being sent out for medical treatment will be a picnic quickly learn that it's not. Being sent to the medical hub for treatment is actually dreaded by most inmates and most of them refuse to go once they learn where it is. Because at that facility the inmates are often shackled, the CO's are a lot tougher and they have little to no privileges there.

Most people don't know this but, unless it's an emergency situation, inmates have to pay a $5 "co-pay" to be seen for a problem ... and that's a lot of money for most inmates. That alone tends to weed out a lot of fakers, false complaints and abuse of the system because most inmates don't want to pay that fee unless they're really sick.

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Now 8 non-working nurses sounds like nothing to you city folks, but here on the island with the shortage of nurses we, have 8 nurses is HUGE..

Eight non working nurses sounds like a lot to me! The reasons the others are not working are about $ as well?

And I agree with the OP, I think better pay would solve a lot of the nursing "shortage".

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