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  1. Hello so I was accepted into an Lpn program a few days ago. I’m glad I was, but kinda pissed about one thing. When I applied, My anatomy 1 class was almost expired. I was told by a nursing admissions associate (someone who answers questions about the nursing program) that in order to be accepted I would need to take a and p 1 over again. And I had a few months to do so until the nursing application priority deadline and a few months more until the regular deadline. There were two deadlines, a priority deadline and a regular deadline. I asked about being accepted in general to the program. Well I applied anyways before the priority deadline and got accepted. So I emailed the nursing admissions associate and said I was confused because I was told by her I wouldn’t be accepted unless I complete this class. She wrote back and told mE that it was ultimately up to the nursing department. I want to write back to her and ask her that she have the school reimburse me for this class that cost me $792 through portage. And say that if she had any doubts or questions about classes that may expire close to the application deadline that she should have asked the nursing department first. She could have told me about my OPTIONS and told me that I could have waited until The priority deadline passed and wait to hear if I got accepted or not for that deadline, and then decide whether or not to take this class over again or not at that point. Because then I would have the regular deadline coming up after that, and would have had time to still complete the anatomy class before the regular Deadline. But I also know that if you make waves in these nursing programs you can stick out like a sore thumb for the rest of your time at the school. I don’t want to get off on the wrong foot before even starting. But this isn’t my fault either. What do you think ? by the way I haven’t got an acceptance letter in the mail, just via email. Not sure if that matters with all this
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    Is it worth becoming an RN

    I have already posted similar questions but didn’t get an answer. Anyways, my question is this? Is it worth going to school for an associates degree vs getting Lpn license ? I looked on a website called Glassdoor and a lot of jobs in my area say “looking for lpn/RN”. I don’t know if this means they pay the same amount or if they are willing to pay different rates because the ads don’t usually say. I see on the glass door salary estimate that the pay range doesn’t seem to be much different from a Lpn to RN, like only a couple dollars. I also have heard people say that hospitals used to say that they were phasing out of lpns , but then they never did. I don’t really think I want to work in a super busy hospital anyways. Especially right now. Thoughts?
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    Choosing a school

    Hi I have a couple of questions. I have been to nursing school before in Massachusetts. I was failed for clinical for some things. I did great in the lecture portion and was getting Bs but clinical was more challenging for me. I think it was a challenge because I haven’t had any real experience with being a CNA or a Lpn or any kind of healthcare worker for that matter. Most of the other students had. The only real work experience I’ve had was bartending for many years which is a very different environment. Anyways, I am ready to start reapplying at schools but I’m wondering if I should apply at schools out of state. For example, in Massachusetts clinical is part of the class even though it is seperate. If you are failed for clinical then you fail the whole class. I don’t know how it is in other schools, like I don’t know if I were to have a clinical failure but doing well in lecture if I could continue on if it were another state, or if I could have the chance to repeat just the clinical portion of the class (if it were another state).In this state I was told that you can repeat clinical if you aren’t failed for unsafe clinical practice, but I was. That being said, I think it would be very common to be given an unsafe clinical failure if you were failed for clinical since you are working hands on with patients so I am not sure how often students are even allowed to repeat clinical and aren’t failed for “unsafe” clinical practice and instead just failed for clinical without the “unsafe” mark on their grade. In my state if you are failed for unsafe clinical failure you can’t re enter the program at that school. Is it different in other states? Then I was wondering about this: what If you fail the lecture portion of class one year, say your second semester. And you are having trouble re entering into the program at that particular school. Can you then apply to another school and enter into a second semester at another school or would you have to start all over again wherever you go? I just want to be prepared for all possibilities, I realize nursing school is hard and If you do fail a class it makes it hard to get into other schools. I have read how some people are failed when they are have something stressful happen in their lives like a death in the family and it makes it very difficult for them to continue on sometimes with that failure on their transcript. my next question, I was thinking of just gaining some experience by going to Lpn school and getting an Lpn license. That way I have some experience in nursing. I could become a CNA but I think it is a waste of money because you do have to pay for it at most schools around here (No financial aid) and I think most jobs are in private care so you aren’t getting the interaction with other nurses and learning new things. But I don’t know if it makes much of a difference. I heard that a year is knocked off of school for the Bridge program If you enter an LPN to RN program so I don’t know if there is a lot more that you learn in that year and if it is a lot more difficult then just doing an RN program because the RN program may be more spaced out with the information you absorb and therefore more doable whether or not you were an LPN or not. I knew one LPN in my class when I was in an RN program and he seemed very frustrated all the time because he said that the things he was taught in the RN program were very different than the things he was taught in the LPN program and at times were conflicting. I guess I would like to hear people’s opinions on this, perhaps anyone who has gone through the bridge program at a school. Thanks!
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    Overturning a grade is it possible?

    No I was failed for clinical, not my other classes. I got Bs in the class part. I don’t think my instructor was trying to mislead me either, but she has been working at the school for five years. She should not have told me I would pass knowing that it was not up to just her who passes. Because she reported me to the rest of the faculty for the things such as being late using my phone etc before when we were not getting along (I could tell she did not like me) the faculty made a decision based off of my past history. After I tried my best to get along with my instructor she had nothing but good reports for everyone to the faculty but the faculty did not listen to her because of her past reports. It is too bad because I was told I would pass even by another instructor as long as improvements were made and they did not seem to care about the past and the times I was late etc.
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    Overturning a grade is it possible?

    This was actually for lab. I was late for lab not clinical on this day and no I did not notify anyone I would be late I only told them after
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    Overturning a grade is it possible?

    I was late once because no one notified of me of a time change to the clinical hours. I spoke to the dean of the academic affairs and they told me I should have been notified in an email. The second time I was coming back from a doctors appointment in the city and there was heavy traffic that day. I really had no idea that it would take that long to get back from the doctors appointment because I never drove into the city but I needed to see the doctor because of my health problems I was dealing with. I saw another student that was late because she got a flat tire and two other students were late because they were finishing up working on assignments. I don’t know why people are telling me that other people’s circumstances don’t affect mine. I was told by the dean himself that if the teacher is allowing other students leeway and not me that this is unfair to me and I have grounds for an appeal for my grade based on this.
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    Overturning a grade is it possible?

    It is my business when other students are clearly being treated differently than me. If you are yelled at for being late, and another student is not, wouldn’t you get the idea that an instructor doesn’t like you? And then you find out that while you did make mistakes, so did many other people in the program and they were passed. Would you not feel outrage? And it is my business I believe if I do file a suit and find out that these students were not disciplined at all, which is what I suspect. I don’t know if a lawyer will be able to find that information out though. Even if I don’t look at how other students were treated differently my instructor told us we would not be penalized for being late if we had a good excuse for being late for which I did. I was late twice out of the whole semester. The other things she wrote me up for could be argued against and I did but she did not want to hear it. If you read my post again you will see I admit to making mistakes such as being late but you are saying I take no responsibility. Why am I continuing to dwell on this? Because other nursing programs do not want to see an F from a previous nursing program so it is hard to move on with my life as you suggest.
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    Overturning a grade is it possible?

    I don’t think this person is being sarcastic. It is pretty ridiculous that for the school to give a reason why they cannot overturn my grade is because too much time has passed...when the grievance process took too long to complete which is out of my control.it is up to the school how long that process takes and whoever is involved with the grievance. I even spoke to the registrar of the school today and they said that my grade can be overturned at any point as long as I filed the grievance within 30 days. Did I make mistakes during the program? Yes. But our instructor explained to our group that people have things come up and she explained it is ok if you are late if there is an emergency or if you have a good explanation, talk to me and I will be reasonable. So other students were late and I did not see them yelled at. But I was late and was yelled at by my instructor, because she was angry with me for getting her in trouble. I had explanations that would have satisfied her but she chose to ignore them because she seemingly wanted to get me in trouble until it was toward the end of the semester and I kissed her ***, then she wanted to pass me. This doesn’t erase the fact that I was late and I get that but I believe it discredits the instructor. If she is going to write me up for things and not other students that is not fair and if other students are allowed to pass them I should too! She proceeded to write me up for things that I am questioning were even right to do. It was also explained to us as a group that our instructors determine our grade in clinical. I was told I had a chance to pass by my instructor and the director of the program mid semester. Then at the end, and after me exceeding the expectations of the instructor and kissing her *** (and being told by my instructor I would pass) I was told by the director I would not be passing and that it is a team decision who passes. How is that fair? Yes I could have dropped out and used my time more wisely to do other things if I had known I would be failed regardless of my performance from then on. But not only that! I would not have this F on my transcript if I had made the decision to drop out. IF I ask the director AND the instructor “I have a warning from you but do I still have a chance of passing this class?” And they say “yes absolutely “ and I’m told I would pass by my instructor in the end, and she wants the faculty to pass me but they still don’t pass me , that’s not fair and yes i should have been told “because you have received a warning there is a chance you will not pass regardless of your performance from here on” . I may have dropped out if I was told that, absolutely.
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    Overturning a grade is it possible?

    No I’m not but the fact is that I was told I would be passing and my instructor also explained to us that if we were going to be late to call ahead and there would be no problem. Other students were late and were passed. I would like to stay on topic though please and have my question answered...
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    Overturning a grade is it possible?

    I cannot retake the course because it is a nursing course I was in the program and got kicked out. I cannot renter the program because of a clinical failure.
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    Overturning a grade is it possible?

    This is the same grievance. It is a long story about why I think I should have my grade overturned. my instructor failed me for a couple patient complaints, because I was late twice, I used my cell phone in a wrong area , all in clinical. But why I think I could get my grade overturned is because I was told I had a chance of passing the course around November, after I had been given a warning in the course, but I was told I still could pass so I did not drop out. Then at the end of the semester my instructor told me I would be passing, but apparently it was not up to her. the rest of the faculty told her that they didn’t think I should pass and would not allow me to pass. I think it was unfair to tell me that I had a chance of passing in November when I could have dropped out, could have spent my time elsewhere and applying to other colleges, if despite my efforts I was still going to be failed in the end. I don’t think I could prove that my instructor told me I had a chance of passing mid semester, but at the grievance hearing the director did admit that the instructor came to her and wanted me to pass at the end of the semester so that aligns with her statement to me of telling me I would pass. All students were under the assumption that it was up to the instructor who passed clinical because no one else was overseeing the students in clinical besides our instructor. It was only at the end of all of this that I was made aware that it is a team decision by the faculty who passes clinical. I cannot prove that we weren’t told about this team decision thing, but it is not stated in the nursing handbook that it is a team decision by faculty who passes clinical. I filed my grievance immediately after the semester ended. I was told by the vice president that it can’t be longer than ten weeks after the end of a class for a grade to be overturned, but she is totally ignoring the fact that it has only been longer than ten weeks because the grievance process took longer than ten weeks! So she stated if she were to turn my grade from a F to a W it would be overriding the schools policy which they cannot do. I think it’s not true I think they can do whatever they want they are the school but I do not know for sure.
  12. I have been failed in a nursing program. I believe I had a good reason to overturn my grade so I filed a grievance with the school and they would not overturn it. They told me that because it has been over ten weeks since I finished the class they cannot overturn my grade and that is written in their policy. I don’t want to have this F on my transcript. So if I have a good reason to get it overturned I am wondering if I am being given false information? I am thinking about suing the school but i don’t know if a judge could force the school to override their policy. The only reason why ten weeks have passed is because the grievance process took many months at the school so it is not my fault that this much time has passed. I don’t want to waste my time suing the school if it will be pointless and I will not win.
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    Failed for Clinical-but no proof

    It’s not that I’m not willing to take responsibility for my own actions though. It’s not like I’m trying to take the focus off of myself by pointing out that the instructor was treating other students differently either. That’s your point of view I suppose but I have made this clear. I spoke to the dean of the school and he said if the instructor is allowing other students to make mistakes but giving me a clinical warning then that’s unfair treatment and I should be filing a grievance with the school. There were many students who made mistakes with it being their first semester and they were passed. Again, this isn’t me trying to say I did nothing wrong. I sound like a broken record at this point. It seems like some people on this thread are either not getting what I’m saying or they are on this board because they get a kick out of telling a person that they were wrong 30,000 times. Then I have to wonder what your intentions are for being on this board. My intention for posting this thread was to see if I have any grounds to overturn my failure or at least be able to re enter next semester. I am not here to be told what I did wrong 30,000 times . I know what I did wrong and I have made that clear. If there is anyone who could offer any insight on what I originally came here for I would appreciate it. Sheesh. Thank you!
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    Failed for Clinical-but no proof

    I was explaining in my first post what my instructor told me and the faculty, that my patient was found with her pants down and me nowhere to be found. Here’s what happened, to give you more details. I introduced myself to my patient, I got her breakfast, and then I explained to her that I was going to get her towels and washcloths for a bath. I got her up and put her in a wheelchair and left her in front of the tv. I went to find washcloths as I had never given a bath to someone at that facility before. I could not find them. I asked someone where they were and they told me that they had not been brought down yet and I would have to go to the other side of the wing, hence taking ten minutes to find them. Now in my opinion, ten minutes is not long to leave someone and like you said a patient could get in to some sort of trouble when you just left them. I would have had no problem telling someone where I was going, but that needs to be communicated with me. I should know who to tell, and I should be told “if your away from your patient for this long of a time you should tell this person”. Because in my opinion ten minutes isn’t long and I left my patient in a safe position. I understand your opinion that perhaps it is common sense to tell someone where your going, but I don’t think it is. I saw students leave their patients for a half hour checking on other patients and I did not see them tell anyone where they were going. It was only explained to us that if we leave our patient for something to make sure their wheelchairs are locked and a call light is with them.
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    Failed for Clinical-but no proof

    I am not defending myself, I am just trying to give as many details about what happened because so many people have asked for more details and I have had to submit all of this information to the school for my grievance. For example I was asked well did the instructor explain where to use your phone? What part of the the nursing home were you using your phone? All of these questions were asked by the dean. I think the details do matter. I’m sorry if you interpreted that as me focusing on every detail or defending myself. I feel that I made mistakes but I do not feel that they constitute a safety risk so that I can’t apply at other schools. I have another associates degree, and have never failed a class in my life so I guess that could answer your question perhaps.
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    Failed for Clinical-but no proof

    That’s your point of view. I believe there was someone on this thread that posted that they did not assume they had to tell everyone where they were going because there were CNAs and nurses caring for the patients. Different people think differently which is why expectations should be explained. I really just assumed I would have to tell someone if I was gone for say, 30 minutes and my patient was waiting for me but I left my patient for about ten minutes to go and get her towels and face cloths to give her a bath. My aunt who is a nurse said she would often have multiple patients a shift and would be away from a patient for that amount of time and unless she was taking a break it wasn’t really an issue. I also asked the dean about this and he shared the same opinion of mine that unless the patient was left in an unsafe situation or I was away from the patient to go take a break or was gone for an extended amount of time then he did not see what the issue was.