my problem with allnurses...why so pessimistic?

cancanRN · Jul 9, 2011

:smokin:The economy has taken a blow on everyone even nurses, hospitals are tightnening their belts , this site is absolutely a place to get your gripe on with nursing being the way it is. The real world of nursing is completely differnet then any other job, title, position. We are the largest group of professionals in this country we need a voice if this website helps find our voice negative or positive that is a plus in my view.

cancanRN · Jul 9, 2011

The economy has taken a blow on everyone even nurses, hospitals are tightnening their belts , this site is absolutely a place to get your gripe on with nursing being the way it is. The real world of nursing is completely differnet then any other job, title, position. We are the largest group of professionals in this country we need a voice if this website helps find our voice negative or positive that is a plus in my view.

AgentBeast, MSN, RN · Jul 9, 2011

Happiness is not something you find, it's something YOU create.

Art_Vandelay · Jul 9, 2011

why is all nurses so negative and inaccurate? I checked this website before I ever went to nursing school and read all kinds of post about how 85% people are rejected from nursing school and it is impossible to get in unless "you know someone." I didn't find this true at all. Seriously, i had a 3.37 GPA overall in college and still managed to get into accelerated nursing school. Also, while in nursing school i read about people who had applied to "over 300 jobs" and had yet to even get an interview. When i applied to nursing school i applied to ten place and got 6 interviews and had my pick of jobs( this was in 2010). I only know a few people in my nursing class who are truly struggling to find work. Now I work in area that has very few young educated people and has many elderly people who need medical care. So we have a good amount of jobs. But i truly believe that the majority of people who post on here were the unlucky ones who are strugling with their career. Just an FYI to all the nursing students out there: study hard, remember common since rules, and don't worry too much about what people say on allnurses.com.

I'm not negative; I have rainbows coming out of my butt. Sorry, I totally stole that line from another post.

VioletKaliLPN, LPN · Jul 9, 2011

I would like to mention that in my area it is easy to gain entrance into 'accelerated programs', because they are an average of 50k. That does not exactly bring the masses to apply.

I am 100% debt free, so I do not use student loans. My program had 600 apply, I got in.

Our local ABSN, accelerated option, the one which is 65k in cost, had 120 apply, 25 were taken-their capacity.

NYGiantsGal · Jul 9, 2011

If it was that easy for you then you should count your blessings and shut your mouth. Thousands of nurses aren't exaggerating the difficulties of the current economy.

Why should he or she shut their mouth if they are blessed? Actually, I thoroughly understand how this person feels. I am new to this site (not to life though) and the amount of negativity that I see here is astounding. How about try and think and say something positive for a change? The negative ones are by far the loudest so here is a loud positive person - **** for once. Please say something constructive!! Forums like this reflect what I see in nursing most of the time - and it is why I, as a nurse, avoid most other nurses. As usual when someone tries to be positive, out come the Red Barons to shoot them down - ridicule them, boy do the fangs and claws come out quick when positivity tries to shine.

I am currently hiring at my own facility (here is a rare view from a hiring nurse manager: MESSAGE!). I cant tell you the amount of resumes that I receive that look like 5th graders wrote them. Spelling and grammatical errors are unacceptable especially with spell check nowadays. People send in 4, 6, 10 page resumes. No cover letters. I had someone come interview that stated though she had been out of the field for a while she was waiting for someone to give her direction as to whether she should take a refresher course... Really? Keep waiting. Keep complaining about it. Here is something else: dress appropriately. If you actually have a good resume and send it in, back it up when you arrive for the interview. Look groomed, wear appropriate attire, wear a business suit or at least a jacket. No open toed shoes, do not go to your interview hoochified and do your hair for crying out loud (I dont care if its raining - stop by the bathroom first and fix it before you come in to see me)! I have had 2 positions open for the past couple of months and have not hired yet. I bet some are on this forum right now 'I have been to interview after interview and cant find a job...' and cant figure out they knocked themselves out of contention.

The market is EXTREMELY competitive now. True. Make yourself standout. New grads: volunteer somewhere, take phlebotomy certification (shows you have hands on with needles which is necessary), get your ACLS/BLS and have that on your resume, apply to something other than a hospital, go into the human resourses department yourself with an impeccable resume - just show up it shows spunk/motivation. If you cannot write up a resume, look it up online or hire someone. Seasoned nurses: take refresher courses, volunteer, know how to answer questions appropriately - look up interview questions and know what to say and how to respond. Maybe you have to travel further. Live in NY? Get a Jersey license and see what they have to offer. Both: dress appropriately if called in. If you're bilingual, put that on your resume.. Take a Rosetta Stone course in Spanish, put it on your resume. Arrive early, not on the nick of time or late. Dont think you're getting hired just because you're a nurse... So what? What else do you have to offer?

I am not saying people are not struggling, but how many people are only looking for hospital employment? How many only want to work in a specialty? Look for somewhere other than the hospital, look for something other than what you believe your specialty might be. Be proactive, make sure your resume is impeccable, go into the human resources department yourself, look the part. Try to start thinking positively and lets not attack the ones that do think so. Believe me, that negative, defeatist attitude shows. It'll show you right out of a job offer. :twocents:

mazy · Jul 9, 2011

but i truly believe that the majority of people who post on here were the unlucky ones who are strugling with their career. just an fyi to all the nursing students out there: study hard, remember common since rules, and don't worry too much about what people say on allnurses.com.

let me understand the logic here. because bad things only happen to other people. they happen to other people because they're not as amazing as me. i am amazing because i know how to do things right, and so i will be rewarded by the all good things i deserve. therefore, bad things happen to other people because they don't know how to make them happen, thus, they don't deserve them.

so everyone needs to just quit their whining already.

this is the kind of thinking that leads people into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt; they can just brush off other people's concerns about the sanity of that because they are quite sure they will immediately find a job, because only other, unlucky, negative and pessimistic people can't find work.

i guess it couldn't possibly be that people come here to vent because it is not the nature of the world to be fair and we all have to process that and come to terms with it. everyone on the planet has to come to terms with it, including your patients, who are suffering from terrible things that they do not deserve.

we come here to vent because we have chosen a profession in which we are elbow deep in the suffering of others. we have decided we want to help them, an endeavor for which we reserve very little respect or support. by venting with our colleagues we find a way to elevate ourselves above all the horrible things we see so that we can learn from other nurses how to do this job well.

in order to solve a problem you have to first acknowledge that it exists. that is not being negative or pessimistic, it is being realistic.

or, i suppose, you can just keep skipping through life feeling secure in the knowledge that bad stuff won't happen if you play by the rules, until you hit a wall of course, which you will.

if you want to make god laugh, make a plan.

netglow, ASN, RN · Jul 9, 2011

"hoochified"

Love that! I tell you something funny. Months ago I went to a scrubs store just to see what was new. I had asked about my size in a specific brand, and I think I mentioned not wanting my top to be too tight. The woman behind the counter laughed and said that all the young RN students/cna students lately come in and try on scrubs and go for the ones that fit super tight, as well as the more non-scrub, scrubs and ask for scrubs that might be cut a little lower for their part time jobs. :yeah:

Of course I laughed. You know some of these young'uns are going to be so dissappointed when they find out that they just won't meet those young single docs at the nursing home, or hospital while they work like they are imagining they will. :lol2:

AgentBeast, MSN, RN · Jul 9, 2011

"hoochified"
Love that! I tell you something funny. Months ago I went to a scrubs store just to see what was new. I had asked about my size in a specific brand, and I think I mentioned not wanting my top to be too tight. The woman behind the counter laughed and said that all the young RN students/cna students lately come in and try on scrubs and go for the ones that fit super tight, as well as the more non-scrub, scrubs and ask for scrubs that might be cut a little lower for their part time jobs.
Of course I laughed. You know some of these young'uns are going to be so dissappointed when they find out that they just won't meet those young single docs at the nursing home, or hospital while they work like they are imagining they will.

C'mon you can't mention Hooch and Scrubs in the same post and not post a video.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgewyPhGYHM[/YOUTUBE]

beckster_01, BSN, RN · Jul 9, 2011

Hooch is crazy...

linearthinker, DNP, RN · Jul 9, 2011

NYGiantsGal- Literally Lol'd @ "hoochified." Many people do not seem to know how to present themselves for an interview. I was in a hospital recently for a different purpose, and a young lady stopped me and asked me if I knew where HR was. This young woman would tell you she wore a suit to her interview. And she did. A suit with a jacket two sizes too small, boobs in push up bra spilling out over the top, this wild hot mess of badly dyed blonde hair piled up in some weird Media star updo, a skirt that came to mid thigh, and 5 inch patent leather stiletto peep toe "FM" pumps. Unless I am totally mistaken and she was going to HR to give the HR manager a birthday stripper gram, which is entirely possible. I was so taken aback by the hair, the boobs and the outfit, that I failed to notice the nails, but i'd bet the ranch they were a few inches long and either bright red or hot pink, or had rhinestones or glitter on them or something. :) Now, she may not have been a nurse at all (jesus god I hope not), and since I didn't know where HR was, she may never have even made it. But if she did, and failed to get the job, I'm sure she is stunned and wondering why. I am sure she thought she looked great. Anyway...

I concur that they do not know who they are. Further, often these same individuals do not take suggestions well IME, which would make them bad employees anyway. Waddaya gonna do?

dance4life · Jul 9, 2011

I haven't been able to find a job for almost 3 years since I moved back to my hometown. I am not a New Grad! Woo hooo! Lets party! :hpygrp::hpygrp:

No, but seriously, of course it doesn't mean that everyone is me or anyone else. Me myself I wouldn't tell anyone not to do anything. Who knows what can happen.

It is very depressing for me sorry.