I had made a post about this earlier. I would like to go into nursing, but am against abortion completely at all times, I am Catholic, and I would never ever take part in an abortion procedure, nor would i want to care for someone immediately after they had the procedure becuase without me there to do that, the abortion couldnt have happened, so in a way i am still contributing to the abortion. I will make this clear from the start, If somebody had an abortion a year prior or a month prior or whatever else of course i would still care for them. As long as i am not being responsible for that abortion happening,, I could still care for them.
Alot of people said, that is fine just don't work in the ER, OR, OB/GYN areas.. but truthfully i would like to work in all of these areas more then others.... is this possible?
Note: I do not feel that it is any of my business if my patient had an abortion in the past and i would never treat anybody differently becuase they had one in the past. I just need to know that when i sleep at night I am doing the right thing and not going against my beliefs and I think that i deserve those rights..
Thanks for your input! i would love to hear from other pro life nurses most of all and any experiences you have had with this
Well, our tax dollars even in Canada already do go to abortion and i have no choice but to have a job to feed and suport myself and have no choice but to pay taxes...so i guess that takes care of that question. I am not in scool yet, i have to ask you ,what is trisomy 13? iup? is that the sme as an iud? (iud i would not help with as they cause conception to continue happening and flush it out ofthe system) yes i would help the abortion nurse if i had to as much as i would disagree with what she does every day,, i wouldnt be contributing to an abortion by doing this,, yes i would treat my co-worker the same as always. I dont think treating them the same would go against my good conscience,
I read this post and I'll be honest. I'm not sure what to even say or where to begin. I'll start by saying that if you don't want to ever be in a situation where you have to make a choice like this, then stay out of nursing. My personal beliefs are simply that...my personal beliefs. I have taken care of many a sick pt that has made choices that I disagree with, but it's not my job to judge them. I once had to take care of a man who abused a young child and ended up with me b/c the father beat the living s*&* out of him. However, I didn't refuse the pt simply b/c he was a child molester.
And yes, I am religious. I come from a religious background. However, I find that some of the most intolerant ppl ever are those that claim to be religious. What if that young woman who just took the life of her unborn child needs someone to show her the way to God. If you are too busy judging that soul for having an abortion, you might find that you lose the opportunity to maybe help a hurting soul that just needs to know someone cares.
Long story short. I don't believe that nursing is a field for intolerant ppl. If you find yourself to be that person, then maybe you should choose a different field.
And sorry if I offended anyone, but if you have your view, then I have mine-and this is it.
I am not intolerant. I could care for ANYBODY i jsut do not want to take part in abortion procedures. I agree with you that I could help somebody who had made that choice afterward,, if i had met somebody who had an abortion in the past who was going thru a hard time because of that decision and needed somebody to talk to I would be there for that person. I think God is forgiving and I think people can be sorry fortheir mistakes, and i do not think that I am a perfect person either. My statement was that I could not participate in an abortion procedure,, I realize many women (sadly) have abortions, i know several people from my hometown who have had them nad when they come say hi to me when i am home i have a friendly conversation with them no problem... I respect your views, and i do agree with you...
My fiance is a police officer and although he is against drugs nad violence and all of those horrible things of course he still has to do his job, and he is not contributing to these things that he is against of course but still has to work with ppl who do horrible things,,, hes not contributing to the problem he is making the community a better place!
I am currently in education, I teach students right now who say terrible things to eachother, who have beat up other kids, have done things i disagree with, but when they need help with their scoolwork i help them,,, im not contributing to these things that i disagree with and i do have the chance to help thm make good decisions in the future...
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me and my friend are adamant pro-lifers as well. my friend works in l/d and never had a problem. believe me if a situation comes up, she will definitely stand up, she is very outspoken about christianity and her values. it can be done at least in the us, not sure about canada (not sure about laws regarding this).
My fiance is a police officer and although he is against drugs nad violence and all of those horrible things of course he still has to do his job, and he is not contributing to these things that he is against of course but still has to work with ppl who do horrible things,,, hes not contributing to the problem he is making the community a better place!
I am currently in education, I teach students right now who say terrible things to eachother, who have beat up other kids, have done things i disagree with, but when they need help with their scoolwork i help them,,, im not contributing to these things that i disagree with and i do have the chance to help thm make good decisions in the future...
So then I am to take this that it must be ok to work with kids or adults who sin against God willingly by drugs/violence/what have you, but it's not ok to take care of women who choose to end a babies life (and so sin in your eyes). -again the problem with certain religious types of ppl. They think that they have the right to decide whether a sin is "big or little."
To me, this makes you the judge of what is acceptable in God's eyes vs. what isn't. To God, sin is sin. It matters not if the person has ended the life of a child or simply told a lie. In God's eyes, all things are equal, and "blasphemy is the only sin unto death."
I'm not attempting to start an arguement. I simply stand by my earlier statement that perhaps you should reconsider your thoughts to enter nursing. If you're unable to lay aside prejudice at the door when you clock in, then you're actually unable to be a good nurse.
I think it would be possible to find an OB position where your employer would be accommodating to your beliefs, but I would avoid the ER. In the ER you will have emergent cases and there might not always be time to shuffle staffing around so that you don't have to participate in any way in a procedure you find morally wrong.
I'm not sure how things are different in Canada though.
Answer me this, do you think nurses should be forced to assist in abortion procedures?
That is my concern, nothing else,, so instead of going on and on about wht kind of person you think I am focus on my point there... and i truthfully believe that murder is not thesme as telling a lie,, but i gues thats the difference between catholicicsm and other christian faiths and we both have theright to have our own opinions on that, and this website isnt about that
Answer me this, do you think nurses should be forced to assist in abortion procedures?
That is my concern, nothing else,, so instead of going on and on about wht kind of person you think I am focus on my point there... and i truthfully believe that murder is not thesme as telling a lie,, but i gues thats the difference between catholicicsm and other christian faiths and we both have theright to have our own opinions on that, and this website isnt about that
No, I don't think nurses should be forced to perform abortion procedures, although perhaps there are emergency situations where an abortion is needed immediately to save the life of the mother (dunno what that would be, just thinking). In a dire emergency situation, I think providing care to save the patient's life is paramount.
I'd like to add that I am fiercely, without apology prochoice. But I don't think nurses should be forced to perform abortions if it violates their beliefs.
The response to this thread is interesting, as I've always heard that nurses are more likely to be prolife than doctors and than an issue in accessibility to abortions is lack of nursing staff willing to participate.
I am not saying the life of te baby is more important thanthe life of the mothers in a situation like that, however i do not believe that the life of the mother is more important than that of te child either,,,, obviously these situations are terrible and i feel awful for anybody having to go through that, but i still would have to decline taking part in the procedure. I could take care of the patient afterwards but an abortion is an abortion and regardless of the situation what they do to that baby is the same.
I don't believe in taking a life to save another. Now, in situations like an ectopic pregnancy where the baby will die no matter what, i do believe that you need to save the mother.. if one life and one life only can be saved then that is what you must do of course... but the Catholic church also believes in doing this in a way that is not a direct attack on the childs life (removing the tube,, but not aborting) ...
So you obviously believe that peple should not have to participate if it violates their beliefs, then what was with the long message saying what an awful person i am?
Why bring in the fact that you are catholic but do not follow som of the basics of being catholic? I think all you need to say is that you are pro-life. If you don't want to take part in any part of an abortion then don't. No one can make anyone do something they don't want to or believe in. When you become a nurse I am sure that will come up and you will not be the only one who refuses.
I am pro-choice but would I want to participate in an abortion? probably not but I support their decision. I would have more problem caring for the goy who just killed 13 soldiers than I would a post op abortion.
You define what kind of nurse you want to be, find a job that supports you in that.
So you obviously believe that peple should not have to participate if it violates their beliefs, then what was with the long message saying what an awful person i am?
You must be confusing me with another poster. My post was short and I said nothing about you being an awful person.
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Well, our tax dollars even in Canada already do go to abortion and i have no choice but to have a job to feed and suport myself and have no choice but to pay taxes...so i guess that takes care of that question. I am not in scool yet, i have to ask you ,what is trisomy 13? iup? is that the sme as an iud? (iud i would not help with as they cause conception to continue happening and flush it out ofthe system) yes i would help the abortion nurse if i had to as much as i would disagree with what she does every day,, i wouldnt be contributing to an abortion by doing this,, yes i would treat my co-worker the same as always. I dont think treating them the same would go against my good conscience,