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Schools buck new nursing curriculum
May 23, 2008 05:54:00
Kristine L. Alave
Philippine Daily Inquirer
MANILA, Philippines -- The largest consortium of private schools on Thursday demanded that the Commission on Higher Education (CHEd) immediately stop implementation of the new nursing curriculum, saying its imposition was done without consultation and the curriculum posed too much of a burden on students.
The Coordinating Council of Private Educational Associations (Cocopea) described CHEd's Memorandum Order No. 5 released last week which directed nursing schools nationwide to add new subjects and increase hospital hours for students starting this school year, as a "disastrous" policy that would do more harm than good.
The order had added 28 units and three summer classes to the nursing curriculum's 169 units. Practicum hours would also increase to 2,703 hours from the current requirement of 2,142 hours, Cocopea said.
CHEd said the new policies were aimed at further honing students' technical knowledge and skills, making them more competent and competitive to employers.
Unfair to students
But Cocopea said the imposition of additional subjects was unfair to schools and students.
It also accused CHEd of failing to consult schools and colleges about the new policies. "Due process was clearly not observed," the organization said.
Fr. Rod Salazar, Jr. SVD, Cocopea chair and president of the Catholic Educational Association of the Philippines (CEAP), urged the suspension of the order until after all stakeholders had discussed ways of improving nursing education.
"We are appealing to CHEd to suspend the implementation until we have considered in depth and at length how we can truly improve the quantity and quality of the nurses we educate," Salazar said.
The additional units would also increase the financial burden of students and parents and cause a logistical problem to hospitals and colleges, the group said. It pointed out that there might not be enough hospitals to satisfy students' need for hands-on learning.
"We have barely two months to go before the academic year will start and we, as heads of our respective institutions and educational associations, feel that the implications of the proposed changes in curriculum are too heavy for our educational system to implement this soon," Salazar said.
Cocopea officials said implementation of the curriculum may prompt many students to discontinue pursuing nursing careers.
Fr. Joel Tabora SJ, CEAP regional director and president of the Ateneo de Naga University, said, "It is a disastrous policy. It will make us choppy and will force students to drop out."
Cocopea is composed of 2,500 schools, colleges and universities.
Consultations were held on new nursing program 3 years ago
May 23, 2008 21:19:00
Katherine Evangelista
INQUIRER.net
MANILA, Philippines -- Contrary to claims of a consortium of private of schools, the Commission on Higher Education (CHEd) said Friday consultations had been held before it ordered the implementation of a new nursing curriculum.
Maria Teresita Sy-Sinda, chairperson of CHEd's Technical Communication on Nursing Studies, said nursing school owners, parents and related institutions were consulted during the drafting of the program.
CHEd's Memorandum Order No. 5 released last week mandates nursing schools to add new subjects and increase the hospital hours of nursing students starting this school year. It will be applicable only to incoming freshmen nursing students.
The Coordination Council of Private Educational Associations on Thursday demanded that CHEd immediately stop the implementation of the revised curriculum, saying its imposition was done without consultation and it posed too much of a burden on students.
Meetings with stakeholders about the new program of study were held as early as three years ago, Sinda said.
The original proposal, according to Sinda, was to turn the nursing degree into a five-year program to ensure graduates' competence. This, she said, was turned down by the stakeholders, citing the additional costs it would entail.
Sinda said the new program is better because it integrates review for licensure exams. "As a dean, I feel that it is my responsibility to ensure the quality of education of my students. Why should I pass it on to a review center?"
She said the integration was done to ensure the program is "airtight" to prevent a repeat of the scandal-tainted 2006 nursing board exams.
Private review centers now have to comply with the strict standards set by CHEd if they wish to continue operating, Sinda said, adding nursing schools that fail to meet the minimum passing rate for three years could be closed down.
"They should get their acts together," she said.
At the same time, Sinda said the new nursing curriculum is CHEd's response to address the growing concern over the declining quality of nursing graduates.
"In the beginning, there was clamor among our consumers that the nurses that we are producing in the Philippines [are] not competent," she said.
In a primer provided during the 2008 National Conference on Health, statistics showed that from an annual passing rate of 62 percent in 1981 and 1988, nursing board exam passers dropped to 48 percent in 2002 to 2006.
The new curriculum also gets rid of "special courses" for professionals applying to nursing schools. Before, professionals can finish a nursing degree within 18 months because of the special courses offered by schools.
"If a doctor wants to be a nurse, she should go through the whole process in order to become a nurse," explained Sinda.
actually, im not that over-confident, but i pretty much am confident enough about my knowledge and skills, thank you...
it's the other, more, pardon the word, 'mediocre' graduates that i'm worried about...frankly, the board exams was a big disappointment, it was all too easy...
what worries me is that right after the tests, i heard students in the lobby discussing about how they didnt know what a "z-track" method is...or worse, what color is an O2 tank...and i blame the curriculum and our policy makers for that...for allowing those kids--and hey, maybe i should include myself, since i'm not really passionate about the profession--to pass nursing and graduate.
actually, im not that over-confident, but i pretty much am confident enough about my knowledge and skills, thank you...it's the other, more, pardon the word, 'mediocre' graduates that i'm worried about...frankly, the board exams was a big disappointment, it was all too easy...
what worries me is that right after the tests, i heard students in the lobby discussing about how they didnt know what a "z-track" method is...or worse, what color is an O2 tank...and i blame the curriculum and our policy makers for that...for allowing those kids--and hey, maybe i should include myself, since i'm not really passionate about the profession--to pass nursing and graduate.
For the above complaints that you have just posted, this tells me that your clinical instructors were not doing what they should have been doing; and that is teaching. These are things that you learn when you are on the floor, and not necessarily when you are in lecture. And this is why you hear me complain about the CIs that never had any clinical experience before they started teaching. This is actually not permitted in any other country than yours. And this just proves my point.
actually, im not that over-confident, but i pretty much am confident enough about my knowledge and skills, thank you...it's the other, more, pardon the word, 'mediocre' graduates that i'm worried about...frankly, the board exams was a big disappointment, it was all too easy...
really? Wow! Now where did I heard that before.... Oh I remember... My neighbor. After the board exam, I asked him how he did because I'm perfectly sure that I failed and he was very confident that the exam was pretty easy. It ended up the other way around. I passed, first take, he failed twice now.
I'm glad you're very confident that you did well.... I hope after few weeks, you'll post here that you already passed the board exam. I would really be very happy to greet you.
what worries me is that right after the tests, i heard students in the lobby discussing about how they didnt know what a "z-track" method is...or worse, what color is an O2 tank...and i blame the curriculum and our policy makers for that...for allowing those kids--and hey, maybe
Just to add up to the post above, its very obvious that those clinical instructors who taught these students have no idea what they're doing. Also the fault of the not so experienced school that popped out of nowhere to hire them. Desperate I may say... BUT..... if a student feels that their instructors are not teaching them well and that you need more learning, a student should have the initiative to make extra effort to learn more... Read... read.... read.... and read.... If you can't understand some points, ask someone you know.... if your CIs can't answer either, look for someone else.... Simple as that.... Because in real life and in nursing profession, there are things and learnings that you can't find unless you look for it yourself.....
i should include myself, since i'm not really passionate about the profession--to pass nursing and graduate.
Now, that's the time I can say, unfair to patients. But don't worry, there's a reason for everything.. There are some people who's also like that. After quite sometime, they've changed heart.... They learned how to love the profession... Hopefully someday you'll be like them... cheers!
If you are not passionate about nursing, then why did you go into it? And with knowing now back before you started, would you still consider it? and what do you plan to do with it, knowing that things are as they are at this time and we do not expect things to get better.
As a student, one still needs to take some responsibility for learning and if they are not, then they need to be vocal about what is not being covered in their program.
And this is another reason why I recommend individual preparation for the NCLEX exam as well as the NLE as then you can take the time to learn about what they never taught you in school. And if it was not taught in a program, how do you expect any of these review centers to even know about it either since most of the reviewers, as you call them, have never worked in a hospital or have had any experience working as an RN anywhere.
unfair to students? you know what i think, the current curriculum is unfair to patients...just took my licensure exam yesterday, and honestly, i dont think i've learned enough in four years...creeps me out when i think of mistakes i might commit--unintentionally of course--when rendering patient care (which hopefully, would just be a few weeks from now)
I would love to hear what you think about the 2 year programs for R.N.'s in the United States. It's amazing that all these other countries have higher educational standards for registered nurses than the U.S.!
I would love to hear what you think about the 2 year programs for R.N.'s in the United States. It's amazing that all these other countries have higher educational standards for registered nurses than the U.S.!
That is not really the case, and has to do with immigration requirements and not just licensure.
And if one takes the time to consider how much schooling is actually needed before one can get into the two year program, it is over three years before they are done.
The issue is also with what one country requires for licensure in their home country rather than what the US wants as well. The PRC does not accept the two year degree for licensure, so then the US is not going to accept it from that country either.
much has to be done to correct this problem.. one of these problems is the fact that there are lesser hospitals that can accommodate the increasing number of students. in our place, we only have 3 hospitals and we have 5 nursing schools and 1 midwifery school. sometimes we dont have any patients to take care of during our duty..sigh..
much has to be done to correct this problem.. one of these problems is the fact that there are lesser hospitals that can accommodate the increasing number of students. in our place, we only have 3 hospitals and we have 5 nursing schools and 1 midwifery school. sometimes we dont have any patients to take care of during our duty..sigh..
These are things or issues that students need to be aware of before even registering for a school. And thanks for posting this, it only backs up what I have been saying all along.
The clinical training is now sorely lacking over there and it shows.
I honestly think that the 5 year BSN is a scam. Seriously 4 years is enough to establish competence of RNs and that relies heavily on the quality of training. Quality training revolving around the Clinical instructors, the facilities, the clinical exposure. I think that what needs to be done is the abolishment of the ASHE curriculum. It is seriously not needed. 2 years should not be spent on concepts of community nursing (although I do like community nursing), a few months is enough. Time should be allotted to all the nursing disciplines. I also prefer the old curriculum where fresh meat was thrown early in for clinical exposure. Frankly nursing is 70% skill and 30% knowledge. Good nurses can be harvested if they are allowed more time with clinical exposure.
I would love to hear what you think about the 2 year programs for R.N.'s in the United States. It's amazing that all these other countries have higher educational standards for registered nurses than the U.S.!
In order to complete the 2 year RN program, the actual program itself is 2 years in length....However when you take prerequisites and also general education for your ASN then it's about 4 years total in length...It's not all lumped into that 2 years...I'm not sure if that's what you're thinking....Now for the BSN it can take 4-5 years here in the US with general education and prerequisites.....My friend took 5 years total.....I had a friend who took about 3 years to complete the diploma program back east.....They had a lot of clinical rotation and I believe it was through a hospital that no longer offers the program....When you hear of ASN, BSN and the length of the program, it's basically the years in the nursing program itself minus gen ed & prerequisites.....Hope that helps
lenjoy03, RN
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I apologise if I was a bit harsh on my words. My first paragraph was intended only for that sentence.
The second paragraph was based from my own experience. I was also afraid, but I'm confident that though I might feel nervous at first, I knowcan do and learn what needs to be learned.
Anyway... back to the curriculum issue. Surely this program will just go to waste if CHED and schools wont strictly implement the requirements for Clinical educators of our country... Schools and other institution will just take advantage of this to get more money from students.