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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

52 minutes ago, subee said:

"Fox viewers" = members of the military who participated in Jan. 6 insurrection.  It's because they are constantly bombarded on bases with Fox running all day in the background.  Kind of the same way that the Hitler Youth groups were brainwashed to produce an image that looks pretty much like January 6th, even though it was taken in 1933:(

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Let's see if the logic for your ridiculous comparison is based in fact.

Can you provide a source of how many who participated in storming the Capitol are active duty military working on bases?

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A local talk-show had a interesting segment this morning.

He played a recording of Rush Limbaugh speaking of how Biden will serve at the pleasure of Obama.  He said that the media will cover for Biden in regards to the family scandal, until Obama decides it's time for him to step down.  Then, the media will suddenly and temporarily become hard news organizations that will eventually take down Biden.

In light of the recent NYT article and the CBS News "special investigation", maybe this happening.  We shall see.

Might also explain Obama's behavior toward Biden the other day.

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12 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Let's see if the logic for your ridiculous comparison is based in fact.

Can you provide a source of how many who participated in storming the Capitol are active duty military working on bases?

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/21/958915267/nearly-one-in-five-defendants-in-capitol-riot-cases-served-in-the-military

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/11/05/what-happened-members-of-military-accused-of-storming-capitol-January-6.html

Why are you unfamiliar with these details? 

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6 minutes ago, Beerman said:

A local talk-show had a interesting segment this morning.

He played a recording of Rush Limbaugh speaking of how Biden will serve at the pleasure of Obama.  He said that the media will cover for Biden in regards to the family scandal, until Obama decides it's time for him to step down.  Then, the media will suddenly and temporarily become hard news organizations that will eventually take down Biden.

In light of the recent NYT article and the CBS News "special investigation", maybe this happening.  We shall see.

Might also explain Obama's behavior toward Biden the other day.

LOL

Sure. Un-named right wing radio personalities, especially those who elevate people like Limbaugh, are good at speculating and coming up with "explanations" for things they don't approve of.  

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27 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Let's see if the logic for your ridiculous comparison is based in fact.

Can you provide a source of how many who participated in storming the Capitol are active duty military working on bases?

Looks like 5 were active duty, who may have been, as you say,  "bombarded on bases with Fox running all day in the background."

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/11/05/what-happened-members-of-military-accused-of-storming-capitol-January-6.html

So, from the start, your assertion falls kinda flat that Fox is responsible for brainwashing the military into a Nazi-like organization.

 

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58 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Looks like 5 were active duty, who may have been, as you say,  "bombarded on bases with Fox running all day in the background."

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/11/05/what-happened-members-of-military-accused-of-storming-capitol-January-6.html

So, from the start, your assertion falls kinda flat that Fox is responsible for brainwashing the military into a Nazi-like organization.

 

One in 5 of the arrested insurrectionists had military ties. Your  assertion that there's no relationship falls flat.  It wasn't CNN or MSNBC viewers storming the capitol to give Trump the presidency.  

Further, no one implied that Fox is brainwashing the military into a nazi like organization.  What is a concern is that the military is ignoring the indoctrination of individual members of the military by creating an environment filled with only rhetoric and opinion from the right wing through inaccurate and inflammatory media outlets.  Until they can recognize the danger of running FOX and OANN continually in those public places there will be indoctrinated and radicalized military personnel.  

 

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11 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Please clarify what you believe that "Putin and Jinping" perceive about Biden.  That sounds like speculation or extrapolation so maybe you could link to the actual remarks and we could decide for ourselves how they perceive the current POTUS. 

In my mind, those people who believe foreign leaders consume their information directly from a right-wing propaganda outlet, as they do-- just display to the world the thoroughness of their own voluntary indoctrination.

The idea that Putin and Xi Jinping are unsophisticated enough that they assess a foreign leader by means of deceptive attempts to advance a narrative cooked up by third-stringers from Trump's 2020 campaign is laughable.

I would respond to Beerman directly, if not for me being chastised for supposedly barging into an exclusive conversation between he and another poster here, which could happen again if I respond directly to his posts.

I'm old enough to remember the days of "Ford is a klutz", "George H.W. Bush is a wimp."  In fact, the real person in each case was more the opposite.  These things take on a life of their own, but assuming that is how our adversaries assess their counterparts reflects global misunderstanding of the larger issues at play.

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8 minutes ago, nursel56 said:
11 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Please clarify what you believe that "Putin and Jinping" perceive about Biden.  That sounds like speculation or extrapolation so maybe you could link to the actual remarks and we could decide for ourselves how they perceive the current POTUS. 

In my mind, those people who believe foreign leaders consume their information directly from a right-wing propaganda outlet, as they do-- just display to the world the thoroughness of their own voluntary indoctrination.

The idea that Putin and Xi Jinping are unsophisticated enough that they assess a foreign leader by means of deceptive attempts to advance a narrative cooked up by third-stringers from Trump's 2020 campaign is laughable.

I never claimed those types consume only right wing media.

I imagine they see Biden from a variety outlets.  The see Biden forgetting names, losing his train of thought, whispering into a microphone, being ignored while trying to get the attention of Obama, etc.  It's just my opinion, of course, but it's hard for me to believe he is seen as a powerful leader.

14 minutes ago, nursel56 said:

I would respond to Beerman directly, if not for me being chastised for supposedly barging into an exclusive conversation between he and another poster here, which could happen again if I respond directly to his posts.

I don't recall ever chastising someone for such a thing, or even remember you.  And, that doesn't sound like me.  Do you have some proof to back up your accusation?

Also, I was not a participant in a conversation with the person you are responding to.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I never claimed those types consume only right wing media.

I imagine they see Biden from a variety outlets.  The see Biden forgetting names, losing his train of thought, whispering into a microphone, being ignored while trying to get the attention of Obama, etc.  It's just my opinion, of course, but it's hard for me to believe he is seen as a powerful leader.

I don't recall ever chastising someone for such a thing, or even remember you.  And, that doesn't sound like me.  Do you have some proof to back up your accusation?

Also, I was not a participant in a conversation with the person you are responding to.

 

It wasn't you. To discuss the topic, though-- If you, for example-- observe the Russia-Ukraine crisis as a whole and can't see that Biden and the people he personally chose to be his representatives are evidence that he is a powerful leader, I guess there isn't much more to discuss.  

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

I never claimed those types consume only right wing media.

I imagine they see Biden from a variety outlets.  The see Biden forgetting names, losing his train of thought, whispering into a microphone, being ignored while trying to get the attention of Obama, etc.  It's just my opinion, of course, but it's hard for me to believe he is seen as a powerful leader.

You didn't claim that they consume right wing media you simply believe that those leaders would assess Biden by the partisan and petty standards utilized by American right wing media and therefore reach the same conclusion. Yes the world leaders see the American president through a broader and different lense than does the average American Trump supporter or republican voting Fox news consumer.  Frankly it's a bit odd that you seem to believe that the world leaders would think about Biden the way that you do when none of the available evidence reflects that, in any way.  

Yes, it's hard for you to see these presidents (Trump and Biden) with any clarity and therefore is difficult for you to perceive Biden as a strong leader or Trump as a weak leader, even though on the world stage that's the more accurate appraisal.  If verbal gaffes, inappropriate communication techniques or off putting public behavior would diminish a president in the eyes of the world them Trump could not possibly have been considered a stronger leader than Biden.  The moment one strays from right wing rhetoric and narrative about Trump's strength as a leader it becomes more and more apparent that Trump was not widely perceived as a strong leader.  Heck Trump's absent leadership during the pandemic should be a clue that the fellow was not a leader. 

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He Refuses To Accept Criticism 

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He Does Not Do What Is Right In The Long Term, He Succumbs To Short Term Pressures

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Interesting to see some examples in this opinion piece.  Can't make this crap up. 

 

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Is the GOP “a party built on fraud, fear and fascism”? Certainly, not all Republicans think this way. But too many others are subverting democracy, cavorting with white nationalists, spreading racist fears and fantasizing about extrajudicial punishment for political opponents and the media. For them, the jackboot fits.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/08/jamie-harrison-gop-republicans-fraud-fear-fascism/?fbclid=IwAR0fEwyUFTxpz4Xm-I312ZWwrjvLwX9nVx9LfY-DS3yADHqb2lnHJ9vMW8E

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Must admit that Schatz's take down of Hawley was epic. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/08/brian-schatz-josh-hawley-ukraine-loudness-gap/

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