plz answer my qestion about GED

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Im Wanting To Become A Nurse im Not Lazy Ect But In my High School I Had very Bad Problomes With Grades Normely C-E's I Try Really Hard But I Still Fail. So IV Desided To Take my GED Now My Qestion Really Is If i Pass My GED Is There Really Any Chance of Become A Nurse? *reasion behinde wanting a ged is i have failed 2 tiems already on 9th grade and trying hard on 3rd time but seems its not work for me so iv desided to find out if i could become a nurse with a GED whats are my chances could u plz tell me? thank you

Specializes in ICU/Critical Care.

Totally agree with ya, Virgo. I could care less about how compassionate you are. What matters most to me is that you know what you are doing when you are trying to save my life.

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Specializes in Cardiac Telemetry, ED.

Just for the record, it's not that I don't think compassion is important; it's that I grow weary of the devaluing of intelligence as an important quality in a nurse. If I had to choose between the "compassionate" nurse who makes a med error that does harm to me, and the "know it all" nurse who catches a med error before it can do harm to me, I'd take the latter. Of course, ideally, a good nurse possesses both qualities, and they are certainly not mutually exclusive. I'd want someone taking care of me to possess both qualities. It's just that if I had to choose, I'd choose the smarty pants.

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it's that I grow weary of the devaluing of intelligence as an important quality in a nurse.

This was my problem, as well. I know everyone wants to be supportive and tell this person that everything is ok as long as you believe in yourself, but as far as I'm concerned, if you're skipping out on your education, then it is most definitely NOT ok. No amount of kumbaya-belive-in-yourself ego stroking will replace actual knowledge and academic ability.

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This was my problem, as well. I know everyone wants to be supportive and tell this person that everything is ok as long as you believe in yourself, but as far as I'm concerned, if you're skipping out on your education, then it is most definitely NOT ok. No amount of kumbaya-belive-in-yourself ego stroking will replace actual knowledge and academic ability.

This is true.

However.

Telling a young person to give up is not productive, either.

I would counsel the OP to seek remediation in the areas in which s/he is weak and finish HS.

And I would tell him/her to continue to strive and dream, but to take this opportunity of being young and in school to overcome his/her obstacles to learning, work on any disabilities, and cram all of the knowledge possible into his/her brain.

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This was my problem, as well. I know everyone wants to be supportive and tell this person that everything is ok as long as you believe in yourself, but as far as I'm concerned, if you're skipping out on your education, then it is most definitely NOT ok. No amount of kumbaya-belive-in-yourself ego stroking will replace actual knowledge and academic ability.

As much as I love my 4.0 GPA. I must tell you...

The smartest people in the world have always either eschewed formal education or done poorly. ;)

example?

Albert Einstein...

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The smartest people in the world have always either eschewed formal education or done poorly. ;)

example?

Albert Einstein...

Thats a really uninformed statement. Most people believe Einstein failed out of school, but this is inacurate. He once failed an enterance exam for the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, but even then he scored very highly on the math/physics portion (the area of study he would later be known for). He later DID complete secondary school (called high school in the US), and eventually DID study at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. A lot of people love to point to Einstein as an example of the great things you can accomplish without a formal education, but those people are misinformed. Furthermore, Einstein's work did not have people's lives depending on it, so it didn't really matter whether he came up with a given theory in one year or one decade. Nurses, however, need to know what they are doing and be able to put their knowledge into practice quickly and effectively.

Its statments like this that contribute to erroneous assumption many young people have that they'll be just fine without school.

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Telling a young person to give up is not productive, either.

Perhaps I should have phrased things a different way. What I meant was, someone who cannot pass the ninth grade has little or no chance of completing a nursing program and should therefore cross one bridge at a time and complete high school first.

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Thats a really uninformed statement. Most people believe Einstein failed out of school, but this is inacurate. He once failed an enterance exam for the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, but even then he scored very highly on the math/physics portion (the area of study he would later be known for). He later DID complete secondary school (called high school in the US), and eventually DID study at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. A lot of people love to point to Einstein as an example of the great things you can accomplish without a formal education, but those people are misinformed. Furthermore, Einstein's work did not have people's lives depending on it, so it didn't really matter whether he came up with a given theory in one year or one decade. Nurses, however, need to know what they are doing and be able to put their knowledge into practice quickly and effectively.

Its statments like this that contribute to erroneous assumption many young people have that they'll be just fine without school.

It's not uninformed. Einstein DID do poorly in school. In fact, those that tend to do well in school are on the line between average and gifted.

Those going from gifted to genius tend to do worse than their peers.

Hawking also did poorly.

Assuming formal education in ANY way correlates to intelligence is extremely inaccurate.

I'll give you an example.

I speak 4 languages, can program in more than 8 languages. I can make a computer dance and sing at will. I was VERY successful in my 4 years in MI in the Army. I received a 1580 on the SAT (back when it was on the 1600 scale). I got an almost full scholarship to A&M.

I graduated at the end (the END) of my class. Last. I dropped out of college before the Army.

NOW I get 4.0s BUT it is only due to maturity and paying for my own school.

Tell me I'm uninformed....

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It's not uninformed. Einstein DID do poorly in school. In fact, those that tend to do well in school are on the line between average and gifted.

Those going from gifted to genius tend to do worse than their peers.

Hawking also did poorly.

Assuming formal education in ANY way correlates to intelligence is extremely inaccurate.

I'll give you an example.

I speak 4 languages, can program in more than 8 languages. I can make a computer dance and sing at will. I was VERY successful in my 4 years in MI in the Army. I received a 1580 on the SAT (back when it was on the 1600 scale). I got an almost full scholarship to A&M.

I graduated at the end (the END) of my class. Last. I dropped out of college before the Army.

NOW I get 4.0s BUT it is only due to maturity and paying for my own school.

Tell me I'm uninformed....

You're confusing the issue. I never made the statement that higher learning is a direct sign of intellegence. Please remember the original context of this discussion. I was merely commenting on the importance of school in terms of having a successfull career. Einstein's career was many years ago, and school plays a much more important role in career success today. Also, while Hawking did not do poorly in school, his grades were simply nothing special. Either way, the man still had advanced degrees, which require....you guessed it: staying in school. You prove my point, BTW, by mentioning that now you get 4.0's. Could there possibly be any reason why you feel a need to work for these high grades? Hmm...could it have something to do with wanting to have a career in nursing?

All I'm saying, is that if you want to be a nurse, then go to school and don't take shortcuts (like skipping high school despite having low academic achievement) if you want to be successful.

I think a lot of people who have GED's or onece did poorly in school seem to take offense to my statements, believing them to be some sort of personal attack. This is not the case. Please remember to look at all my statements in the context of the OP's scenario.

[and the bit about gifted people doing poorly in school? are you saying the OP is some sort of secret genius, and thats why he's failing?]

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I barely got through the 9th grade, and dropped out in the 10th. At age 17, I got my GED. I tried community college then, but was completely overwhelmed and quit. Many years later, I went back and took a few general ed courses and finally got hooked, resulting in a 4.0. Even later, I took the nursing school prereqs and again achieved a 4.0. Graduated from a BSN program with a 3.8.

I was/am intelligent and did well in school up until high school. I just wasn't emotionally ready and could not do it without a goal. No amount of effort could overcome that at the time.

So, can a person succeed in nursing school with a 9th grade education? Decidedly, yes.

As to skipping years of education, there are actually some research-based, experimental programs going on now that reduce high school to two years. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1857336,00.html

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I agree that people who drop out in the 9th grade can go on to do great things. But to think that you cannot handle high school, but will immediately be able to handle college, is unrealistic.

I think the OP needs to spend some time maturing and figuring out why she is doing so poorly in high school bedfore attempting to go into nursing school. Her odds of success will be much higher.

I also think that doing well in school is less about IQ (i was in gifted classes all through high school but dropped out of college when I was 20 and had failed a few classes because I stopped going), and more about maturity (Now, at 24, I'm doing very well in my classes and dread getting anything lower than a B on an exam).

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I agree that people who drop out in the 9th grade. But to think that you cannot handle high school, but will immediately be able to handle college, is unrealistic.

I think the OP needs to spend some time maturing and figuring out why she is doing so poorly in high school bedfore attempting to go into nursing school. Her odds of success will be much higher.

I also think that doing well in school is less about IQ (i was in gifted classes all through high school but dropped out of college when I was 20 and had failed a few classes because I stopped going), and more about maturity (Now, at 24, I'm doing very well in my classes and dread getting anything lower than a B on an exam).

I understand what you're trying to say, but I really believe that have a goal can make a difference. The OP talks about "trying" and still failing, which gives you pause. But I am telling you from personal experience there's a difference between "trying" and "trying" with a clear goal.

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