Plant-based (vegan) mandate for NY hospitals

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What do you think of the new bill passed in New York State requiring vegan options on the menu?

It does appear to be a political endorsement of this diet over others, such as paleo, which had benefited many as well. While I definitely favor choice for patients, this law is promoting a plant-based as superior.

Also, whenever government imposes another mandate, it creates an expensive bureaucracy and burdensome red tape.

New York's landmark bill guarantees healthful plant-based meals to hospital patients

On 12/15/2019 at 8:20 AM, Rionoir said:

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Is this what you would call, vegan spam?

On 12/15/2019 at 3:40 PM, vimmie said:

It’s got to be better than some of the regular/renal/cardiac trays I’ve been seeing! Get more plants to those patients

If it makes dollars, it makes sense. A dollar saved is a dollar earned. Wait... aren't most dialysis operated by a third party specifically because of cost issues? Am I making that up?

On 12/16/2019 at 9:40 AM, Emergent said:

Probably my cousin ? she's continously obnoxious and preachy, embarrassing to eat out with, obsessed. Not only that, I'm far healthier and more vigorous on a lower carb way of eating with an ideal weight, muscular build, amazing amounts of energy. And, I don't talk about it much. My cousin is very thin, poor muscle tone, has had hip surgeries, and is low energy, spends a fortune on various alternative medicine providers.

I think sometimes people who get into extreme dietary ideologies actually have eating disorders.

I do agree that people with extreme dietary ideologies might tend to have experienced an eating disorder at some point. But how do you treat someone with an eating disorder?

(Our) society is built on niceties, rules, structure, and hierarchical dominance.

Prudent therapy of ED patients considers the following: non-food and non-body activites/discussion will be prohibited from the meal environment and/or meal time, keeping in mind that eating disorders may be considered by some experts to be a form of obsessive reasoning.

How do you think your cousin would respond if she found this blog thread. Does your cousin have paranoia or delusions related to her ED? How do the concepts of learned helplessness, percieved abandonment, and anxious attachment loop into the topic of a food and nutrition as part of the healing environment?

Specializes in ER.

@FloForLyfe

My cousin just seems obsessed with food, and the stock market...?

Specializes in Geriatrics, Dialysis.
8 hours ago, Emergent said:

@FloForLyfe

My cousin just seems obsessed with food, and the stock market...?

well if that isn't a double whammy about now!

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@HelpfulNatureHopeful

Concerning your statement about hunters, I duly administer genuine respect only to meat-eaters who hunt. It is so easy to get rid of evidence on a plate, but is it easy to put food on a plate?

Meat-industry workers have a high risk of psychological damage and moral injury. Where is it my imperative to request others to fail in meeting their own survival needs?

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@Megarline

My upbringing was quite oppositional/contrasting to yours.

I was expected to moan and gripe if fresh brie could not be found in the kitchen fridge.

In lamentation, I share with you that these specially prepared and specially aged cheeses are connected to the advent of chromosomal abnormalities. My mind would not have to wander too far to suppose certain modern food inventions have bestowed upon us an opportunity of financial becoming.

On 1/14/2020 at 6:35 PM, hppygr8ful said:

B12 only occurs natural from animal sources so if you are taking it you are not a vegan.

Would a previously nominal body-builder gain autologous b-12 if he/she reduces his/her calorie intake, given that the macronutrient profile remains relatively constant?

I may be speaking out-of-turn here, but 2020 is here people!

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