What do you think of the new bill passed in New York State requiring vegan options on the menu?
It does appear to be a political endorsement of this diet over others, such as paleo, which had benefited many as well. While I definitely favor choice for patients, this law is promoting a plant-based as superior.
Also, whenever government imposes another mandate, it creates an expensive bureaucracy and burdensome red tape.
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4 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:
It’s nasty to eat animal carcasses period. That used to belong to a conscious animal. How can you justify murdering one species but say you are a caregiver? It’s hypocritical.
Diets are a choice. Clearly you have your opinion on eating meat, but that doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you. It's not hypocritical.
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15 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:
It’s nasty to eat animal carcasses period. That used to belong to a conscious animal. How can you justify murdering one species but say you are a caregiver? It’s hypocritical.
Yep, I guess all meat eating caregivers are just a bunch of murderous hypocrites. While I'm busy changing my profession, I think we might as well kill off all the animals who are carnivores, so they aren't all killing each other. ?
No.. animals don’t have the understanding and ability to survive without eating meat. Humans can survive off of plant only diets so why would they continue to murder animals? Murdering an animal for enjoyment is psychotic. It is different if you don’t have a choice.
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1 minute ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:
Humans can survive off of plant only diets
For the record, I am vegan. However, humans cannot survive on plant based diet without supplementation, specifically vit b12. Most meat eaters do not go around psychotically killing animals for their enjoyment. Humans have been eating meat since the beginning of time, and this has been ethically and morally accepted since the beginning of time. If you do not wish to do so, I commend you. But there is no need to be judgemental of others. You are not going to win anyone over to your side by calling them hypocritical murderers.
We also weren’t designed to wear eyeglasses, drive cars, etc. That’s what makes humans special. We adapt.
Why kill innocent defenseless animals if it’s not necessary? It’s acceptable if you’re impoverished and can not afford supplements, and in times of old before it was feasible. We have advanced past that now. Killing when unnecessary makes you a sociopath.
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3 minutes ago, HelpfulNatureHopeful said:
Killing when unnecessary makes you a sociopath.
OK, so we have now been called, hypocrites, murderers, pshycopaths and sociopaths. It's obvious that your way of engaging in a discussion is to call everyone names. So.....I'm done.
No.. animals don’t have the understanding and ability to survive without eating meat. Humans can survive off of plant only diets so why would they continue to murder animals? Murdering an animal for enjoyment is psychotic. It is different if you don’t have a choice.
Most slaughterhouses use a bolt gun on the head of the animal so it does not suffer at all. They are even required to screen employees to make sure they are not sadists who like to torture.
It is still a fact that a balanced diet is the most health one. Human beings are omnivorous in nature meaning we also have canine teeth for eating meat. Evolution just isn't fast enough sometimes. A person who hunts when they don't need to is a different thing entirely and is debatable.
There is nothing wrong with the vegan diet, as long as you get supplementary nutrition to prevent deficiencies. There is also nothing wrong with eating meat, it's part of what we are as a species. I have absolutely no negative thoughts against a person for their choices if they choose to be either. I think going vegan to loose weight ,even if temporary, could help a lot of people out, and help with food shortages. Once again, the best diet is a balanced one.
Like I said, I understand when people have no choice to eat meat. Mostly I’m disgusted by hunters but slaughterhouses are anything but humane. Have you ever toured a slaughterhouse? I’ve been to a poultry farm, and I cried all day. It was terrible.
Like I said, I understand when people have no house to eat meat. Mostly I’m disgusted by hunters but slaughterhouses are anything but humane. Have you ever toured a slaughterhouse? I’ve been to a poultry farm, and I cried all day. It was terrible.
Oh I believe they could certainly be improved. You should check out the "free ranging" chicken farms. They allow the chickens to go outside and get some sun. Most people who buy have no idea where their meat was raised, but that doesn't make them guilty of treating the animals wrongly. I'm sure many would be angry if they knew about those farms that did abuse the animals.
It’s nasty to eat animal carcasses period. That used to belong to a conscious animal. How can you justify murdering one species but say you are a caregiver? It’s hypocritical.
I'm sure, we can all reflect that we aren't that innocent after all.
How many of you here skip a homeless man or woman not to help then rationalizing or justifying his or her circumstance as his or her fault or not to give any because he or she uses ... for drugs ?
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Diets are a choice. Clearly you have your opinion on eating meat, but that doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you. It's not hypocritical.