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I am a pharmacist cant get job and want to be a nurse. Any input?

Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in OR, education. Has 16 years experience.

You will need to complete a nursing program to become eligible for NCLEX, the exam that leads to licensure. As a pharmacist, you would have already completed a bachelors degree or higher. You could look into accelerated BSN programs. They are intense and fast paced but doable. Alternatively, you could look at traditional BSN programs, associate degree programs, or masters level entry programs.

Thanks. Can I private in box you more details if you don't mind ?

Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in OR, education. Has 16 years experience.

21 minutes ago, CYNTO Y said:

Thanks. Can I private in box you more details if you don't mind ?

You won’t be able to send private messages until you have 15 quality posts. However, please feel free to post any questions here. I may not know all the answers, so that would allow others to comment and help.

6 hours ago, CYNTO Y said:

I am a pharmacist cant get job and want to be a nurse. Any input?

There are over a 1000 listings on indeed.com for pharmacist, entry level, full time, with starting salary over 100k.

The military will direct commission pharmacists to a very nice rank / pay.

How can you not find a job?

I agree w/ anewmanx. I just popped in a random city and found a whole bunch of ads for pharmacists.

Is it that you don't like being a pharmacist and don't want to work in that field? Or can you not get a job due to something in your background (prior arrest, etc..)?

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Yes. Keep looking for a job as a pharmacist.

Dhooy7

Has 5 years experience.

19 hours ago, Rose_Queen said:

You won’t be able to send private messages until you have 15 quality posts. However, please feel free to post any questions here. I may not know all the answers, so that would allow others to comment and help.

I'm in a similar situation. Do you mind if I message you about my situation?

TDB

Specializes in Pharmacist.

Pharmacy is not easy to get into at all. There is no job guarantee and many kids get out with 100k in loans and no job.

For hospital, you need a residency (preferably two), experience and to know someone. It is virtually impossible for any new grad (right out of school with no residency) to get a job right now. It looks good but without experience they won't even look at you. And, most jobs are going to people already holding either PRN positions or PT positions already. Unless you want to go way out, then maybe you have a chance.

I am a 20+ yr pharmacist who will do nights (hardest shift to fill), has all hospital experience. I have two BPS certifications and have had a hard time getting a new job. Am not looking to move to management, just what a regular staffing job. This is looking in two states. (No, I have no past history that would preclude getting a job). The job I did get had over 100 applications and they interviewed 4 of us. The few interviews I got, all told me the same thing 50-100+ applicants for 1 job.

It is a hard field and in many areas there are too many pharmacists. They opened too many schools and there are not enough positions, especially for young pharmacists. Schools want the $$ and people are not being told the truth about the market and the reality of the real possibility of getting a job. If I were starting school now there is no way I would Pharmacy. It would be medical school or nursing. For the amount of school and financial investment you might as well be the MD.

If I were young, nursing would be an option. You have way more opportunities all the way around! You can work anywhere and can also do things such as become NP or CRNA (and probably things I don't even know about!) Job options for nurses are way better; floor RN, ER , trauma, school RN, MD office, clinic, flight RN... And the list goes on and on! Salary may look better for pharmacist (remember the only degree we have is PharmD now so 7-8 yrs of college, which would be like coming out as NP or CRNA ... Or MD for that matter) but both listed advanced degrees make as much or more then Rph. ** Many of those listed salaries are not what a new grad would be offered.

Of course this is my perspective of what it is to be a pharmacist. So there may be nothing wrong with the poster at all because it is really that hard to get a job, irregardless of the # of jobs on indeed.

amoLucia

Specializes in LTC.

to TDB - TY for your informative post. I suspect that for many job-seeking new pharmacists, they may be in the same straits as many a new grad nurse.

All the glorified, most desirous positions out there are LIMITED. And applicants may be very reluctant to seek out alternative, less glory positions.

I'm not sure why OP can't find a job, unless expectations are NOT negotiable. For whatever reason. There COULD be some in a tight market as you identify.

Just FYI - some time waaay back, I considered returning to school for Pharm. I wanted to be the local pharmacist at a neighborhood Walmart or Acme or Mom&Pop pharmacy. But my age, health and technology-saavy wasn't there to be realistic.

I think other professions like Social Work, Therapy (PT, OT, ST,RT) are in similar positions.

to CYNTO Y - as PP Rose Queen commented, just ask your questions. Nurses AND other professionals all read posts here in AN and can help. Lots of potential for various points of interest & info.

TDB

Specializes in Pharmacist.

There is no "COULD be a tight market" .. there IS an extremely tight market. It has been a huge problem in pharmacy for at least 10 yrs but they are not telling kids that when they go into school (unless you are already a tech or know someone in the field).

It is a high discussion area in the pharmacy world. And if you want to get into hospital it is even worse (and once you do retail it is impossible to move to hospital ... Might as well play the lottery).

I live the reality of it and it is a big topic because it is really hard on graduates after all the school and debt and then the jobs just aren't there to support the debt load. Even when you have experience, it is extremely hard to get a job. I was only one of 3 of my co-workers to get a job and while we were all looking.... In a large metropolitan area with lots of opportunity. The one of the others had a recommendation from another (higher) manager from the hospital system and still could not get in. All had extra credentials and highly experienced.

If in were the poster, I would go back and become an RN then go from there. Regardless of it also being difficult to get in, you will always have a LOT more opportunities.

amoLucia

Specializes in LTC.

TDB - appreciate the info. No profession seems immune from the tough job market, esp now more than ever.

17 hours ago, amoLucia said:

All the glorified, most desirous positions out there are LIMITED. And applicants may be very reluctant to seek out alternative, less glory positions.

I'm not sure why OP can't find a job, unless expectations are NOT negotiable. For whatever reason. There COULD be some in a tight market as you identify.

^^^ EXACTLY THIS. This goes for many professions - not just medical ones. I notice this quite the bit even here on AN. Many new grads wanting to hold out for their "dream job," but don't want to take the residency/job they were just offered because it's not their "dream job." Sometimes you just gotta pick up and move and go to where nobody else wants to go. Is it ideal? No. But you have to start somewhere. Heck, even for a year at least you'll get experience.

I'm pretty sure there are places in Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho, Northern Michigan, and Montana that would love to have new medical professionals come in. Nobody wants to go there - especially Alaska because it's so far. Everybody forgets Alaska, 😁.

By no means am I ragging on the OP, but I do agree w/ you @amoLucia that for some people, their expectations are not negotiable and that's when you run into a crisis. I'll admit, I've even done this myself and had to wait more than I wanted for jobs a few times in my life.

@CYNTO Y is there any way to go back to medical school and become an Internal Med. or Family Practice MD? Or are you just burnt out on that?

On 4/11/2020 at 8:25 PM, TDB said:

Pharmacy is not easy to get into at all. There is no job guarantee and many kids get out with 100k in loans and no job.

For hospital, you need a residency (preferably two), experience and to know someone. It is virtually impossible for any new grad (right out of school with no residency) to get a job right now. It looks good but without experience they won't even look at you. And, most jobs are going to people already holding either PRN positions or PT positions already. Unless you want to go way out, then maybe you have a chance.

I am a 20+ yr pharmacist who will do nights (hardest shift to fill), has all hospital experience. I have two BPS certifications and have had a hard time getting a new job. Am not looking to move to management, just what a regular staffing job. This is looking in two states. (No, I have no past history that would preclude getting a job). The job I did get had over 100 applications and they interviewed 4 of us. The few interviews I got, all told me the same thing 50-100+ applicants for 1 job.

It is a hard field and in many areas there are too many pharmacists. They opened too many schools and there are not enough positions, especially for young pharmacists. Schools want the $$ and people are not being told the truth about the market and the reality of the real possibility of getting a job. If I were starting school now there is no way I would Pharmacy. It would be medical school or nursing. For the amount of school and financial investment you might as well be the MD.

If I were young, nursing would be an option. You have way more opportunities all the way around! You can work anywhere and can also do things such as become NP or CRNA (and probably things I don't even know about!) Job options for nurses are way better; floor RN, ER , trauma, school RN, MD office, clinic, flight RN... And the list goes on and on! Salary may look better for pharmacist (remember the only degree we have is PharmD now so 7-8 yrs of college, which would be like coming out as NP or CRNA ... Or MD for that matter) but both listed advanced degrees make as much or more then Rph. ** Many of those listed salaries are not what a new grad would be offered.

Of course this is my perspective of what it is to be a pharmacist. So there may be nothing wrong with the poster at all because it is really that hard to get a job, irregardless of the # of jobs on indeed.

I know. I've worked in pharmacy for many years and work w/ a new PharmD grad right now. He's staring down the same hole the majority of other new PharmD grads in a saturated market are. Still. Move. Get a job in Minnesota or whatever. I'm kidding about MN, I have no clue where the actual need is but I've heard many times that if you're willing to move, you can get a job.

Guess what they were telling us nurse grads when I graduated? Move. The market's supersaturated here. Go on to get a higher degree or move. You won't get a job w/out experience. So... not seeing a big difference between the job prospects as a new grad in either profession. Going to nursing school would just = more debt. The OP should find a job as a pharmacist wherever he/she can. They can always move back to wherever they want to be once they have a couple of years of experience.

I’ve heard tale before a stint in Alaska can help get years under the belt.

murseman24, MSN, CRNA

Specializes in anesthesiology.

Accelerated BSN -> ICU -> CRNA. CRNA job market is fantastic right now (well minus the COVID thing). Your educational background would complement wonderfully, LOTS of pharmacology in anesthesia. Accelerated BSN should be easy for someone who just went through PharmD school.

5 minutes ago, murseman24 said:

Accelerated BSN -> ICU -> CRNA. CRNA job market is fantastic right now (well minus the COVID thing). Your educational background would complement wonderfully, LOTS of pharmacology in anesthesia. Accelerated BSN should be easy for someone who just went through PharmD school.

I hadn’t thought of that. Man, that is wonderful advice for the original poster.

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Thanks for all your comments. I sincerely appreciated. Stay safe.