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Patient gets biopsy in U.S. after she says she was denied in Ontario due to ransomware attack
QuoteAmherstburg, Ont., resident Jennifer Duguay says she's still in disbelief that she crossed the border to get a biopsy after she was denied care in Windsor due to ongoing hospital delays caused by a ransomware attack.
The 52-year-old said that after three weeks of dealing with a large rash on her chest, her family doctor told her she might have inflammatory breast cancer — a rare and aggressive type.
She says her doctor told her she would be referred to Windsor Regional Hospital (WRH) for an urgent biopsy. But days later, on Nov. 8, Duguay said the hospital's Breast Health Centre called and told her it couldn't be done because computer systems were still down from a cyberattack.
"[I was in] absolute shock that my doctor's referring me for something that's an emergency and I'm being told no? Absolute shock," she said. "I was very upset ... and I said, 'this is my life, what are you talking about?'"
Duguay also says she was told that she couldn't go outside of the region to get the biopsy done in London or Toronto.
canoehead said:They absolutely have a lack of access to routine preventative care. In my province about 1/3 of the population cannot get a family doctor. I have one, and it takes 6 weeks for an appointment, if you can get the secretary to answer the phone. Since I met my doctor working in the ER I got special permission to text her, and she would pass on to the secretary what was needed.
If the ER physician requests an urgent cardiology consult, it will take 2-3 months at least to get an appointment. If they want a consult within the week they just admit the patient. A dermatology consult is two years out.
For nursing, when the government is running healthcare, they are also your employer. Unfortunately, they will also pass laws to reduce their expenses, freeze wages, and prevent legal nursing strikes. There's no competition, since all healthcare is under one umbrella, so you can't quit and go work elsewhere without changing specialties.
I'm sorry that your health system isn't meeting your needs. Be glad you don't have the US system. Our health system is broken and unsustainable.
toomuchbaloney said:I'm sorry that your health system isn't meeting your needs. Be glad you don't have the US system. Our health system is broken and unsustainable.
While anecdotal evidence is the weekest kind. I have to say that my family and I have received very good care here in the US. We do play by the rules and stay in network. The longest I ever waited for anything a week. Whe I had my detached Retina last year I was in the OR the next day to repair the damage. My husband got an appointment with a dermatologist within a week. Turned out he had Skin Cancer.
Hppy
hppygr8ful said:While anecdotal evidence is the weekest kind. I have to say that my family and I have received very good care here in the US. We do play by the rules and stay in network. The longest I ever waited for anything a week. Whe I had my detached Retina last year I was in the OR the next day to repair the damage. My husband got an appointment with a dermatologist within a week. Turned out he had Skin Cancer.
Hppy
I'm glad that you've had good experiences. Currently, the are more than 25 million Americans with no health insurance. Nearly 3 million Americans lost their Medicaid coverage as the pandemic was declared over with a significant number getting thrown off because of technical issues when they still qualify for coverage. At the same time, hundreds of thousands of Americans experience dream crushing debt and humiliation as they attempt to purchase needed care in the most expensive health care system on the planet. Only in the USA do we crowd source health care costs through GoFundMe rather than taxes.
Our health outcomes reflect that your experiences are not universal or maybe not even common.
toomuchbaloney said:I'm glad that you've had good experiences. Currently, the are more than 25 million Americans with no health insurance. Nearly 3 million Americans lost their Medicaid coverage as the pandemic was declared over with a significant number getting thrown off because of technical issues when they still qualify for coverage. At the same time, hundreds of thousands of Americans experience dream crushing debt and humiliation as they attempt to purchase needed care in the most expensive health care system on the planet. Only in the USA do we crowd source health care costs through GoFundMe rather than taxes.
Our health outcomes reflect that your experiences are not universal or maybe not even common.
All of the problems with regard to access to care was supposed to be solved by the affordable care act. Under this all adults must have insurance purchased through the medical insurance marketplace or face legal consequences. Those who cannot afford insurance can get coverage the Insurance Marketplace. Unfortunately Democrats effectively lobbied against the individual mandate which is why it did work as expected. On another note I did get to see the inside of a French ER from a patient perspective and it was the cleaned ER I've ever seen even if the wait was horrendous.
hppygr8ful said:All of the problems with regard to access to care was supposed to be solved by the affordable care act. Under this all adults must have insurance purchased through the medical insurance marketplace or face legal consequences. Those who cannot afford insurance can get coverage the Insurance Marketplace. Unfortunately Democrats effectively lobbied against the individual mandate which is why it did work as expected. On another note I did get to see the inside of a French ER from a patient perspective and it was the cleaned ER I've ever seen even if the wait was horrendous.
No, that's not quite true. The ACA didn't promise to fix access to care, only to improve it. It did that.
Congress undid the penalty for not purchasing insurance. Some states created their own mandate. The individual mandate was part of the legislation passed by congress. Democrats, led by Conyers, introduced expanded Medicare legislation in 2007, 2009, 2011, etc. I don't understand your assertion that democrats lobbied against the mandate.
I'll add an anecdote about access to US medical care. I was found to have a serious heart arrhythmia in March 2019, was seen by cardiology in May, and got a pacer in July. My sister had a similar experience, except she waited 10 months to be seen by cardiology. In the last year she has fallen multiple times, resulting in 2 leg fractures, one required and ORIF. At first, her PCP thought it was cardiac, but they said no. She waited 5 months to get a neurology referral, 5 months to be seen. Now they think it is an inner ear thing, and will have waited 5 months for that consult. And we both have insurance coverage.
QuoteHospitals in at least three states are diverting patients from their emergency rooms after a major cyberattack hit their parent company last week.
Ardent Health Services, which oversees 30 hospitals across the U.S., said Monday that it had been the victim of a severe ransomware attack in Oklahoma, News Mexico and Texas, forcing it to take action
That's inconvenient.
canoehead said:They absolutely have a lack of access to routine preventative care. In my province about 1/3 of the population cannot get a family doctor. I have one, and it takes 6 weeks for an appointment, if you can get the secretary to answer the phone. Since I met my doctor working in the ER I got special permission to text her, and she would pass on to the secretary what was needed.
If the ER physician requests an urgent cardiology consult, it will take 2-3 months at least to get an appointment. If they want a consult within the week they just admit the patient. A dermatology consult is two years out.
For nursing, when the government is running healthcare, they are also your employer. Unfortunately, they will also pass laws to reduce their expenses, freeze wages, and prevent legal nursing strikes. There's no competition, since all healthcare is under one umbrella, so you can't quit and go work elsewhere without changing specialties.
This is a common theme in a large part of the US. We have long wait times for family docs as well as specialists. People who are wealthy enough, often travel long trips to the big medical centers.
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They absolutely have a lack of access to routine preventative care. In my province about 1/3 of the population cannot get a family doctor. I have one, and it takes 6 weeks for an appointment, if you can get the secretary to answer the phone. Since I met my doctor working in the ER I got special permission to text her, and she would pass on to the secretary what was needed.
If the ER physician requests an urgent cardiology consult, it will take 2-3 months at least to get an appointment. If they want a consult within the week they just admit the patient. A dermatology consult is two years out.
For nursing, when the government is running healthcare, they are also your employer. Unfortunately, they will also pass laws to reduce their expenses, freeze wages, and prevent legal nursing strikes. There's no competition, since all healthcare is under one umbrella, so you can't quit and go work elsewhere without changing specialties.