Overturning a grade is it possible?

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I have been failed in a nursing program. I believe I had a good reason to overturn my grade so I filed a grievance with the school and they would not overturn it. They told me that because it has been over ten weeks since I finished the class they cannot overturn my grade and that is written in their policy. I don’t want to have this F on my transcript. So if I have a good reason to get it overturned I am wondering if I am being given false information? I am thinking about suing the school but i don’t know if a judge could force the school to override their policy. The only reason why ten weeks have passed is because the grievance process took many months at the school so it is not my fault that this much time has passed. I don’t want to waste my time suing the school if it will be pointless and I will not win.

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On 10/26/2019 at 4:51 PM, caliotter3 said:

Have a feeling that no matter how many times, however many of us, state basically the same thing, OP is not going to let go of this bone she is guarding with all her might. She could have found another program and been that much closer to, or already have a nursing license by now if she would only face reality and do what needs to be done.

Please think about how this will impact you going forward, too, and how it's going to look to another program should you apply elsewhere.

"I failed because of XYZ so I spent some time reflecting and learned from the experience and now I'm ready to start again" sounds a LOT better than "Well I failed out of my other school so I tried to sue them but it didn't work out...want to give me a spot in your program?"

It makes you seem immature at best, and litigious at worst, and do you think another program would want to gamble on accepting someone who learned nothing from the experience?

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6 hours ago, WhaleTails said:

Please think about how this will impact you going forward, too, and how it's going to look to another program should you apply elsewhere.

"I failed because of XYZ so I spent some time reflecting and learned from the experience and now I'm ready to start again" sounds a LOT better than "Well I failed out of my other school so I tried to sue them but it didn't work out...want to give me a spot in your program?"

It makes you seem immature at best, and litigious at worst, and do you think another program would want to gamble on accepting someone who learned nothing from the experience?

While I agree that the OP acted unprofessionally that doesn't excuse the school for having what sounds like a lack of written policy on consequences for a students actions. From what the OP said there's no way they should have been told they could pass if infact their infractions merited failing the class. The OP stated in the end that they were failed because other facility felt that it wasn't fair for them to pass. The CI I have a feeling didn't really grasp the policy of the school and thus gave them improper information that they could still pass instead of being encouraged to withdraw. It's these kinds of policy screw ups that can save a failing or misbehaving student from the consequences that they should have faced. As I mentioned before I saw it at my school.

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Something I have also considered is perhaps the Clinical Instructor did feel that the OP could or should pass and was able to demonstrate the improvements were made. It is possible that the Director and others may have had other thoughts based on overall performance at ths school that were way beyond control of the CI and perhaps the CI's knowledge.. I don't think your CI was trying to mislead you, rather your actions, attitudes, and other behaviors in your other classes led you to be dismissed.

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43 minutes ago, RNNPICU said:

Something I have also considered is perhaps the Clinical Instructor did feel that the OP could or should pass and was able to demonstrate the improvements were made. It is possible that the Director and others may have had other thoughts based on overall performance at ths school that were way beyond control of the CI and perhaps the CI's knowledge.. I don't think your CI was trying to mislead you, rather your actions, attitudes, and other behaviors in your other classes led you to be dismissed.

No I was failed for clinical, not my other classes. I got Bs in the class part. I don’t think my instructor was trying to mislead me either, but she has been working at the school for five years. She should not have told me I would pass knowing that it was not up to just her who passes. Because she reported me to the rest of the faculty for the things such as being late using my phone etc before when we were not getting along (I could tell she did not like me) the faculty made a decision based off of my past history. After I tried my best to get along with my instructor she had nothing but good reports for everyone to the faculty but the faculty did not listen to her because of her past reports. It is too bad because I was told I would pass even by another instructor as long as improvements were made and they did not seem to care about the past and the times I was late etc.

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7 hours ago, RNNPICU said:

Something I have also considered is perhaps the Clinical Instructor did feel that the OP could or should pass and was able to demonstrate the improvements were made. It is possible that the Director and others may have had other thoughts based on overall performance at ths school that were way beyond control of the CI and perhaps the CI's knowledge.. I don't think your CI was trying to mislead you, rather your actions, attitudes, and other behaviors in your other classes led you to be dismissed.

You can't fail someone in a class for their overall performance at school. Class grades should depend on performance in that particular class not outside factors. This is how schools get themselves in trouble. The OP should be punished for their unprofessional behavior full stop. The problem as I see it as it sounds like the method they choose to do this was to override a grade in a single class so they could use that to expel them. If there are overall issues in all classes that should be dealt with via the Dean/Chairperson directly not hiding behind overriding a grade because it wasn't fair to other students. Have you contacted an attorney? Even though you did in fact unprofessionally the schools actions also sound incorrect. Since you were expelled and if you don't think you'll get into another school with a failure on your record I would consider taking legal action.

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17 hours ago, stockmanjr said:

You can't fail someone in a class for their overall performance at school. Class grades should depend on performance in that particular class not outside factors.

In my experience with ADN programs in @Misscruella's state, your "in-class" work, your lab, and your clinical ARE all one class.

I know my two year program is split into 4 semesters, and each semester is one whole class. Classroom, clinical, and lab are all under the course title Nursing 1/2/3/4 depending on what semester you are. And if you fail your classroom part you automatically fail clinical, and vice-versa.

If her clinical wasn't an entire separate course number with it's own credits, she didn't wasn't expelled for failing "one" course; she was expelled for failing her only course.

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